Poll: Americans as the bad guys

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cgentero

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MGS: Peace Walker did it and as an American I was in no way offended, of course if Big Boss and his army were real I'd probably join.
 

Normalgamer

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Popido said:
Normalgamer said:
Popido said:
Games should be based on fictions, not facts.
I had no idea personal opinions are now facts, if that were the case, I can only imagine what your like.
I'm rubber. You are glue.
Ooh! Grade-school nursery ryhmes! I want to play too!
"Sticks and stones may break your bones, but Amnesia will make you wet yourself."
Wait I think I messed that one up...
 

Merkavar

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lets have a game where were the invaders. mowing down us civilians like in no russian.
 

DeadProxy

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If the main character isnt american him/herself(wtf am i saying, its always a him) then the odds that the main enemy is going to be america in general is going to be slim.
 

Calbeck

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I was under the impression that nearly all the enemies in most of the GTA games were Americans. -:3
 

Popido

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Normalgamer said:
Popido said:
Normalgamer said:
Popido said:
Games should be based on fictions, not facts.
I had no idea personal opinions are now facts, if that were the case, I can only imagine what your like.
I'm rubber. You are glue.
Ooh! Grade-school nursery ryhmes! I want to play too!
"Sticks and stones may break your bones, but Amnesia will make you wet yourself."
Wait I think I messed that one up...
..aa umm...Laputan Machine?
 

Zanderinfal

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As long as there are NO MORE RUSSIANS! It's gone to the point where it's almost racist. I'm tired of people dumping shit on Russians.


As for Americans, I don't care either way. If it's made well and NOT stereotypical, then go nuts.

But in the end, we should be fighting somebody who DESERVES it, you know what I mean? Like how in the newest Medal of Honour (sorry for Australian spelling), we fought the Taliban, who really are evil bastards. So it depends.
 

Something Amyss

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Paksenarrion said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
Depends on how it's handled. If Americans are just portrayed as mustache twilirling villains for the sake of being controversial, no. If handled well, yes.

And I'm an American.
That actually sounds interesting...a mustachioed American in black cape and top hat does dastardly deeds to damsels in distress. Who will save the world now?

A Canadian Mountie.
Was that just a lucky guess, or are you stalking me? Because seriously, I was thinking Snidely.
 

Something Amyss

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halofreak123 said:
As long as there are NO MORE RUSSIANS! It's gone to the point where it's almost racist. I'm tired of people dumping shit on Russians.


As for Americans, I don't care either way. If it's made well and NOT stereotypical, then go nuts.

But in the end, we should be fighting somebody who DESERVES it, you know what I mean? Like how in the newest Medal of Honour (sorry for Australian spelling), we fought the Taliban, who really are evil bastards. So it depends.
Until "Russian" is a race, it will never be racist, nor close to.

However, it is trite, old, and cliché. Then again, terrorists are slowly becoming that way, too. Especially since most of them are "wink wink not al qaeda nudge nudge."

Maybe France. Nobody'll see it coming.
 

Paksenarrion

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Paksenarrion said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
Depends on how it's handled. If Americans are just portrayed as mustache twilirling villains for the sake of being controversial, no. If handled well, yes.

And I'm an American.
That actually sounds interesting...a mustachioed American in black cape and top hat does dastardly deeds to damsels in distress. Who will save the world now?

A Canadian Mountie.
Was that just a lucky guess, or are you stalking me? Because seriously, I was thinking Snidely.
Don't be paranoid, of course that was a lucky guess! Why would I stalk you?

But, seriously, duck. Now.
 

Zanderinfal

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Zachary Amaranth said:
halofreak123 said:
As long as there are NO MORE RUSSIANS! It's gone to the point where it's almost racist. I'm tired of people dumping shit on Russians.


As for Americans, I don't care either way. If it's made well and NOT stereotypical, then go nuts.

But in the end, we should be fighting somebody who DESERVES it, you know what I mean? Like how in the newest Medal of Honour (sorry for Australian spelling), we fought the Taliban, who really are evil bastards. So it depends.
Until "Russian" is a race, it will never be racist, nor close to.

However, it is trite, old, and cliché. Then again, terrorists are slowly becoming that way, too. Especially since most of them are "wink wink not al qaeda nudge nudge."

Maybe France. Nobody'll see it coming.
France have actually backed down from WWII. So no, they wouldn't fight back (mabey.)
 

Xanian

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Actually, I'm pretty sure there are a few games where you're fighting your own corrupt US government or something like that. I mean, okay, you want Americans to be the bad guy because we always make someone else the bad guy...but we're also the target audience so I don't see that happening any time soon. Still, if there's one thing American's hate more than anything, it's probably our own government.
 

trooperpaul

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I have an idea:
Make a game during the American Colonization, where you play as a member of a Native American tribe, watch them be slaughtered, mutilated, and raped. Then, once this tutorial is over, you must try to survive and seek revenge on the people that did it, but be doomed to fail, because of historical accuracy. Anything someone else want to add?
EDIT: Maybe we could fit this in with Extra Credits "True Female Characters" segment?
 

Chrinik

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V TheSystem V said:
Modern Warfare 2 had an American as the actual main antagonist. He used his AMERICAN troops against you.

Was a bit 'WTF?' when he killed you, but at least it was so nonsensical it was unpredictable.
Well, to be fair, he was just AN american...Army of Two pits you against your former employers too.
Sheppard turned roque and send his Shadow Company Mercs after you.

We are talking about AMERICA as the bad guy...the entire country! Not just one dude who snaps and wants you dead. And in MW2, you are pretty much playing as US Army Rangers for quite some time, against Russians, from russia, invading the US...so...the US was still the good guys.

But generally, what is it with all this "The Army would go apeshit about it!", yeah, true...
But why should we care?
Sure, there are alot of gamers in the Army, but there are even more gamers outside of the army.
Why should we care about what the army wants in a videogame?

The Problem with america as the badguy is that most studios are set in the US, and therefore can relate to the US demographic better, and sell it to them better. If you advertise your game by playing as Ali Al-Muhka as an "Iraqi Freedom fighter" against the evil opressive US Invaders, who came in for no reason and now wrecked your home in one of their "searches" without so much as an apology, then they are going to lose ALOT of customers, and the press would probably rip it to shreds for being "unpatriotic" or some bullshit.
Serriously, not even the Germans liked to idolize their army and nation as much (Germany didn´t like it´s own landscape, so it wanted to expand to nicer regions...THAT is the true reason for WW2 people. XD) as the "general" US populace seems to be.
They like to see themselfes winning, and they hate to see themselfs lose. Even in Vietnam movies, you can see them kick so much Vietcong Ass that it comes as a suprise to anyone that they even lost at all.

And since the US is such a huge market that cannot be ignored, games are mostly marketed there.
It´s for the foreign companies to show us how the gaming world looks...like russian games where russian equipment sometimes is totally overpowered...
 

Korten12

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Only if it had a good reason. If it was America as the villian for the sake of being a villian. It would be stupid.

American btw.

Nice to see how many hate America on here.