Poll: 'Anno Domini' in other cultures

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TheIronRuler

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Veret said:
TheIronRuler said:
The definitive lot of you use the phrase 'Anno Domini' when they write down years (in dates), for example this year is AD 2011.
Anno Domini is latin (and also a short version) for 'in the year of our lord'. This implies that Jesus Christ is your lord, and that you are christian.
Language is a constantly evolving thing, and its origins are rarely PC. This phrase does imply that I'm a Christian, just as "rule of thumb" implies that I beat my wife. That doesn't make it true, and using "CE" doesn't change the fact that you're counting the years since Jesus was born (give or take).

As for your other questions:

I want to ask you this -
Did you knew what 'Anno Domini' means?
What will you use now?
And lastly, Do you like bagels?
1) Yes. I am a language geek, and this is not a particularly obscure fact.
2) I will continue to use Anno Domini. Language is more fun with Latin in it, and nobody but history majors ever gets upset at it anyway.
3) Asiago and cinnamon only. Also, cream cheese is the devil.
Rule of thumb isn't really about permission to beat your wife.
It's a way to measure length, by using your thumb.
There are very few sources that claim that the 'rule of thumb' allows you to beat your wife with a stick that's wideth is smaller than your thumb, and these are also dubious.
I'm looking at you, bra burning feminists.
 

Zap Happy

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I'll always use AD. Personally, I think using CE is a little silly, and here's why. I understand that some people who are trying to change to CE are attempting to make it more secular. I totally respect that, but unless we completely change the way our year system works, changing what we call it wont mean it's not a Christian dating system. When some kid asks why year zero is year zero, we will still have to say because that's when Jesus was born (or supposedly born, whatever). I think it's better to understand that the dating system is based on Christianity, instead of trying to cover it up.
 

Azo Galvat

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Yes, I knew what AD meant, and I will probably keep using it. I'm not sure why so many people actually gave a shit enough to have it changed.
 

TheIronRuler

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Zap Happy said:
I'll always use AD. Personally, I think using CE is a little silly, and here's why. I understand that some people who are trying to change to CE are attempting to make it more secular. I totally respect that, but unless we completely change the way our year system works, changing what we call it wont mean it's not a Christian dating system. When some kid asks why year zero is year zero, we will still have to say because that's when Jesus was born (or supposedly born, whatever). I think it's better to understand that the dating system is based on Christianity, instead of trying to cover it up.
The problem with this idiotic system is that THERE IS NO YEAR ZERO!
That's a hole in space and time, like string theory. Therefore all centuries begin with **01 and not **00. You have AD 1, and then 1 BC.
 

coolkirb

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Except even if you use CE and BCE, it doesn't change WHY it's that year in particular.
Cause we dont have a start time of the earth acurate enough for our day/year way of keeping track of history. Also probably haveing to change the date and records of every single thing would be a pain and bug a lot of people, imagine world WWII takeing place in the year 5342 instead of 1939-1945
 

Veret

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TheIronRuler said:
Rule of thumb isn't really about permission to beat your wife.
It's a way to measure length, by using your thumb.
There are very few sources that claim that the 'rule of thumb' allows you to beat your wife with a stick that's wideth is smaller than your thumb, and these are also dubious.
I'm looking at you, bra burning feminists.
If you want to talk about apocryphal sayings, I suggest counting the number of feminists who have actually burned a bra before. The rule of thumb was just a convenient example; do you really doubt the point I was making?
 

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What I never understood was why bother with a distinction? Anyone who isn't a gibbering moron would realize that even if you date things CE you still use the birth of Christ as a reference point as far as CE vs. AD is concerned. Or else you would have a crazy scenario where it's AD 2011 but CE 2027 or some other number. Since they are the same (AD 2011 is CE 2011) they have the same reference point (birth of Christ). Unless of course there was a colossal even that shattered civilizations and brought a definitive end to BCE. I really don't care either way, I use AD because that's what I learned in school.

I just see this all as a fruitless effort to be politically correct where: 1. It isn't really called for and 2. Makes absolutely no difference.
 

Cyberjester

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Bagels are awesome.

Also, because I missed it the first time, if you don't like BC/AD then check up on the names of the months.

Like it or not, our current society (worldwide) is based off of the Roman empire. We use their alphabet, their names for the months, their time system.. The main religion is/was a Christian derivative which was the religion that the Roman empire ended with. Could argue that it contributed to it's downfall, but that would be extremely off topic.

And Tsar is spelt with a Z if and only if you come from a country where organised is organized.
 

Feralcentaur

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And knowing is half the battle! I like my Bagels best toasted and with cream cheese spread on them.
 

coolkirb

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Cyberjester said:
Bagels are awesome.

Also, because I missed it the first time, if you don't like BC/AD then check up on the names of the months.

Like it or not, our current society (worldwide) is based off of the Roman empire. We use their alphabet, their names for the months, their time system.. The main religion is/was a Christian derivative which was the religion that the Roman empire ended with. Could argue that it contributed to it's downfall, but that would be extremely off topic.

And Tsar is spelt with a Z if and only if you come from a country where organised is organized.
Our days of the week are still the norse gods though
 

Sehnsucht Engel

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I'm from Sweden and I didn't know what it meant, though I have wondered for awhile, just forgot to look it up.
 

Shirokurou

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TheIronRuler said:
Shirokurou said:
TheIronRuler said:
There is actually a replacement for such people, it's called 'CE' in English, and it means 'Common Era'. 'BC' would be replaced with 'BCE' - Before Common Era.
Did you knew what 'Anno Domini' means?
What will you use now?
In Tsarist Russia they used РХ (Рождество Христово) which was basically since Birth of Christ.

But USSR and it's awesome atheism brought us to Russia's current calendar.
Now it's like 2011 н.э. which stands for "наша эра" and translates to "our era"
Anything before is 5000 до н.э. which is "till our era"

I used to think Anno Domini translated to "Our Era".
Will I use it now? No, cause I'm a Russian agnostic.

Bagels?
I'm always glad to learn about russia.
Never knew that.
I might ask my father about it some day.
I think you spell Tzar with a 'z'.
I spell Tsar with a "Ц"...
 

Quaxar

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Since I've studied Latin for eight years... yeah, I knew that pretty well.
Related, did you know that RIP originally stands for requiescat in pacem?
 

thylasos

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Cyberjester said:
And Tsar is spelt with a Z if and only if you come from a country where organised is organized.
Also, in the past: Czar.

In reality: Царь (Journalistic transliteration: Tsar').

OP - Aye, what with being a Catholic for fifteen years, having enjoyed several latin masses, and learning Latin later on, I knew it, and I barely ever hear CE.

Also: every institution I'm aware of places 'A.D.' after the number, even if that's not how it was originally intended.

Also: Id est = i.e. = That is [to say]

I'll keep using AD, because it doesn't really mean anything in a society where there's no rival abbreviation (for all intents and purposes), and it's relatively seldom I have to write it, given my focus on 19th Century to the present day in my university course, wherein it's simply understood.
 

Freeze_L

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This point is silly, it is just a useful point to use. It is widely accepted thats all that matters. BCE and CE make less sense, Common Era is a misnomer i would place CE around the time of Galileo if anywhere.

Suck it up, it came from a Christan Culture it will have a Christan Name. If the Chinese or a Pagan calender was in wider use we would use those. The only reason to change AD and BC to CE and BCE is as a cultural slight. Cultural slights against non-dominate cultures are bad so why is it acceptable in this case? It is the Same year, regardless, that will be used as a reference point.

OT: Bagels are awesome got to agree!
 

Hectix777

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This was the first thing I learned when I was 6, and the first thing I learned in WHAP in chapter 1.