Poll: Any Romantics out there?

[jockslap]

If I didn't have a killer migraine, I'd probably be better off at giving you all answers. But right now my mind is drawing a blank.

Some girls like honesty, others just want to feel appreciated. Telling a girl she isn't hot will probably upset her. But like someone said before, saying something like "baby, you're so beautiful. I can't tell you enough" is always win. That's what my exbf used to say all the time and it really made me feel special.

Eh, if someone said that to me, I'd probably tell him to get his head examined because I'm *not* beautiful and I *know* it. However, there are numerous other true compliments he could give me that I would definitely like.

I am a romantic, but I'm also a *serious* one. I don't think there's anything unromantic about honesty. Then again, I also don't believe that romance is about mush. It's more about the way you view the world. Proper romantics love life and see the world as a realm of opportunity, possibility, and adventure. They see members of the opposite sex as a joy and a treasure--someone to share your adventures and the unspeakable beauty of existence.

Non-romantics tend to be shallow and tiresome because there is no *fire* in them.

Here's a picture of me if you're wondering:

the pic didnt work...and i completely agree with you, i think if i feel like i can tell her anything without worrying about her reaction and having to lie that prettymuch means its love and not just a random relationship. And its nice to see that someone other than me thinks all that "baby ur so hot" talk is just stupid...like jeezus, stop looking at ur colon and pull ur head outta ur ass! yknow?

 

[jockslap]

3 points to make here.

1. I'm a romantic
2. The world is becoming too sensitive
3. Romanticism is dying

You want to be a romantic, you have to be a good friend, and that means telling your girlfriend when she screws up. Unfortunately, no one wants to do that anymore, because there's a good chance it won't go over well.

i feel that chivalry is a decently sized chunk of what makes up romanticism, and the vagiants of today are killing chivalry, and women complain because men arent nice to them anymore...well yknow what, if im going to Tim Hortons to get a coffee and i hold the door open for you, i most certainly dont want to hear about how you dont need a man to hold the door open for you! (yeah, that actually happened, and i was seriously displeased)

 

[Cyclomega]

Did not vote, there is not the "used to be, now I'm jaded".

I was desperately romantic, to the point of being ridiculous, then I discovered George Zimmer...

My life has never been the same since...

Google it.

 

[Imitation Saccharin]

I'm actually rather vicious in my interpersonal relationships. I'm sufficiently self-aware however, to ensure the then-current love'o'life sees only what she wants to see.

So....anti?

 

[Dramatic Flare]

3 points to make here.

1. I'm a romantic
2. The world is becoming too sensitive
3. Romanticism is dying

You want to be a romantic, you have to be a good friend, and that means telling your girlfriend when she screws up. Unfortunately, no one wants to do that anymore, because there's a good chance it won't go over well.

i feel that chivalry is a decently sized chunk of what makes up romanticism, and the vagiants of today are killing chivalry, and women complain because men arent nice to them anymore...well yknow what, if im going to Tim Hortons to get a coffee and i hold the door open for you, i most certainly dont want to hear about how you dont need a man to hold the door open for you! (yeah, that actually happened, and i was seriously displeased)

Don't worry. Someone ran an online poll I found once. By thousands more, people seemed to agree that it was women who are killing Chivalry. Not so much for the door holding thing, but the ridiculous double standard. You want me to treat special AND be equal in all things economic? Doesn't work that way.

 

[santaandy]

What isn't romantic about a hot piece of ass? Seriously, romance is the interaction between sexuality and love. Push it too far in one direction and you're bound to be unhappy.

 

[jockslap]

What isn't romantic about a hot piece of ass? Seriously, romance is the interaction between sexuality and love. Push it too far in one direction and you're bound to be unhappy.

call a girl u like a hot peice of ass, i can almost guarantee you will crash and burn.

 

[Good morning blues]

*checks pants, feels testicles" Nope, guess Im not a romantic.

See, this, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with modern dating.

I don't give a fuck about fucking. What I care about is being the everything for someone, and knowing that they can mean everything to me. I want to listen to her problems, and just hold her til she feels better. God I'm alone....

And you always will be alone with that mentality. You want to be everything to someone (stroking your own ego...) and them to you. So what will you do when she cheats on you or if shes honourable will just flat out dump you before immediatly banging someone else.
Plus if you just listen to her problems then that becomes the habit and the women will not give a shit about you when your life gets hard.

Women dont play by the same rules as guys do. They have no concept of honour and they can get a new guy within hours so theres no reason to care.

That's right, fight misogyny with worse misogyny

 

[Dramatic Flare]

*checks pants, feels testicles" Nope, guess Im not a romantic.

See, this, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with modern dating.

I don't give a fuck about fucking. What I care about is being the everything for someone, and knowing that they can mean everything to me. I want to listen to her problems, and just hold her til she feels better. God I'm alone....

And you always will be alone with that mentality. You want to be everything to someone (stroking your own ego...) and them to you. So what will you do when she cheats on you or if shes honourable will just flat out dump you before immediatly banging someone else.
Plus if you just listen to her problems then that becomes the habit and the women will not give a shit about you when your life gets hard.

Women dont play by the same rules as guys do. They have no concept of honour and they can get a new guy within hours so theres no reason to care.

That's right, fight misogyny with worse misogyny

Except he's right. Men and women play by different rules.
unless of course they're like me, who recognize the different rule sets and light it with a blowtorch. It's all bull-.

 

[Cyclomega]

Dingo> this hyperchivalry is very likely to get you stuck in a friend zone...

 

[santaandy]

call a girl u like a hot peice of ass, i can almost guarantee you will crash and burn.

I didn't mean you should *treat* someone as if they are nothing but a piece of meat, and I DEFINITELY would not do that or advise others to do that either. I simply meant that enjoying your sexuality for enjoyment's sake is neither wrong nor cheap. Romance is something that makes you feel good, not a commitment or a set of rules.

 

[Good morning blues]

*checks pants, feels testicles" Nope, guess Im not a romantic.

See, this, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with modern dating.

I don't give a fuck about fucking. What I care about is being the everything for someone, and knowing that they can mean everything to me. I want to listen to her problems, and just hold her til she feels better. God I'm alone....

And you always will be alone with that mentality. You want to be everything to someone (stroking your own ego...) and them to you. So what will you do when she cheats on you or if shes honourable will just flat out dump you before immediatly banging someone else.
Plus if you just listen to her problems then that becomes the habit and the women will not give a shit about you when your life gets hard.

Women dont play by the same rules as guys do. They have no concept of honour and they can get a new guy within hours so theres no reason to care.

That's right, fight misogyny with worse misogyny

Except he's right. Men and women play by different rules.
unless of course they're like me, who recognize the different rule sets and light it with a blowtorch. It's all bull-.

I'm pretty sure that men with any sense of self-worth also move on to the next person when they find that the person they're with is a worthless sadsack who's only with them to pump up their own ego and avoid loneliness.

If men and women play by different rules, it's because of a social expectation that they will do so. Anybody with more than two brain cells to rub together can get over that.

Dingo> this hyperchivalry is very likely to get you stuck in a friend zone...

Exactly my point. You act like a little girl and you end up as one of their girlfriends. Theres a term "cuddle *****" look it up. Then you get the oh soo fun "honour" of being there for the little using hobag to cry on whenever her bf (you know, the guy who actually treated her like he had testicles) slaps her around or cheats on her, then she will feel better becasue of you, decide hes not soo bad and go back to spreading her legs for him.

That's right, fight misogyny with worse misogyny

Dont knock it if it works.

Works how? You get your dick wet and move on to the next one, both of you slightly more bitter for the experience? Enjoy that life, bro.

 

[Cyclomega]

Dingo> this hyperchivalry is very likely to get you stuck in a friend zone...

Exactly my point. You act like a little girl and you end up as one of their girlfriends. Theres a term "cuddle *****" look it up. Then you get the oh soo fun "honour" of being there for the little using hobag to cry on whenever her bf (you know, the guy who actually treated her like he had testicles) slaps her around or cheats on her, then she will feel better becasue of you, decide hes not soo bad and go back to spreading her legs for him.

Worse you can become the best male friend to who she'll compare every single of her boyfriends, but you'll never tap that, and while you're having all the qualities she's seemingly looking for, she'll always see you as asexual... Even if you're hung like George Zimmer...

 

[Unholykrumpet]

Once I decide that I actually love someone, then yes, I become a huge romantic. Until then, it's all just good fun. Go out to the movies, have a picnic under the stars, accompanying the person when they go shopping, surprising them with breakfast on their way to work, stuff like that. The problem is that there's only been two girls that I've ever really fallen in love with, seeing as I hold love to ridiculously high standards. I've been with someone for three months and was actually dumped because she said it to me and I wouldn't say it back. I'm not going to say it unless I mean what I feel the word love means for that person.

Spoiler: Kind of a rant about the word love and my annoyances with society

Society today "loves" everything! Ice cream, chocolate, candy, movies, videogames, you name it, people "love" it. I don't want to spend the rest of my life with this piece of pie, I won't see it as magnificent, as beautiful tomorrow as I do today. I don't love the damn piece of pie. I like it, I find it delicious, I want it inside me (bad example), but I don't love it. Society has thrown around the word like it's a whore on a street corner. I still talk to one of my old girlfriends, and she tells me that I ruined the word for her. She hears her boyfriends tell her that they love her barely a week after dating her. She remembers how much I hesitated, how long I waited before telling her that (two-three months), and she will instantly dismiss any possibility that they are telling her the truth. She even gets somewhat angry, and has said more than once "stop it. You don't mean that". Love is the closest word we romantics have to describe the emotions we get about that special person, with our limited ability to convey emotion through words, STOP ABUSING IT! Okay, I'm done.

Hm...much longer post than I intended. Put spoiler tags to try to shorten it and keep it on topic, but I took the time to write it before realizing its rant-like off topicness. Sorry about that.

And also to Indigo: Didn't see you as that kind of person. I like your views though. Don't worry about becoming a "cuddlebitch", it rarely happens, though it seems like it does. It's an availability bias, plain and simple.

 

[Cyclomega]

This log ranks amongst my personal top...

 

[Dramatic Flare]

*checks pants, feels testicles" Nope, guess Im not a romantic.

See, this, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with modern dating.

I don't give a fuck about fucking. What I care about is being the everything for someone, and knowing that they can mean everything to me. I want to listen to her problems, and just hold her til she feels better. God I'm alone....

And you always will be alone with that mentality. You want to be everything to someone (stroking your own ego...) and them to you. So what will you do when she cheats on you or if shes honourable will just flat out dump you before immediatly banging someone else.
Plus if you just listen to her problems then that becomes the habit and the women will not give a shit about you when your life gets hard.

Women dont play by the same rules as guys do. They have no concept of honour and they can get a new guy within hours so theres no reason to care.

That's right, fight misogyny with worse misogyny

Except he's right. Men and women play by different rules.
unless of course they're like me, who recognize the different rule sets and light it with a blowtorch. It's all bull-.

I'm pretty sure that men with any sense of self-worth also move on to the next person when they find that the person they're with is a worthless sadsack who's only with them to pump up their own ego and avoid loneliness.

If men and women play by different rules, it's because of a social expectation that they will do so. Anybody with more than two brain cells to rub together can get over that.

Yes they will, unless there is something else to have. "Fearing the devil they don't know, they kept the one on their backs" or something like that.

Unfrotunately, you're wrong about social expectations. Here's the way it breaks down.
Women categorize all men they meet into roughly three categories. These are "dateable", "befriendable" and "worthless." Assuming that the worthless will never be talked too again, the focus is on dateable and befriendable. And it's what guys don't get. A man can be the most chivalrous, considerate man in the world and find a woman he likes only to be categorized and as a good friend. But men don't understand this. They don't play this little categorization game and most of the time don't even know it's being played.
Those who are in the dateable category have a different set of hoops to play. Women want the best man there is, and will keep testing someone to see if they're "Good enough". This is where the ubiquitous "Does this make me look fat?" comes into play. The game is not so much about playing, so much as it is to see if the woman can manipulate and play the man they're interested in. If the man fails the test (which is either by a yes or no answer, in this case) then the woman is basically done with the man. Test failed, time to find someone else. If the man passes, they will test again. And again. And again.

Men don't get this thing about women, and the ones that do get it don't have trouble with dating. Or, again, they're like me. They see the game, the stuff women try to pull, and immediately walk away. I think I'm the only guy in the world to do that.

 

[Dramatic Flare]

Dingo> this hyperchivalry is very likely to get you stuck in a friend zone...

Exactly my point. You act like a little girl and you end up as one of their girlfriends. Theres a term "cuddle *****" look it up. Then you get the oh soo fun "honour" of being there for the little using hobag to cry on whenever her bf (you know, the guy who actually treated her like he had testicles) slaps her around or cheats on her, then she will feel better becasue of you, decide hes not soo bad and go back to spreading her legs for him.

Worse you can become the best male friend to who she'll compare every single of her boyfriends, but you'll never tap that, and while you're having all the qualities she's seemingly looking for, she'll always see you as asexual... Even if you're hung like George Zimmer...

Once again bash comes through.
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DragonflyBlade21: A woman has a close male friend. This means that he is probably interested in her, which is why he hangs around so much. She sees him strictly as a friend. This always starts out with, you're a great guy, but I don't like you in that way. This is roughly the equivalent for the guy of going to a job interview and the company saying, You have a great resume, you have all the qualifications we are looking for, but we're not going to hire you. We will, however, use your resume as the basis for comparison for all other applicants. But, we're going to hire somebody who is far less qualified and is probably an alcoholic. And if he doesn't work out, we'll hire somebody else, but still not you. In fact, we will never hire you. But we will call you from time to time to complain about the person that we hired.

THANK YOU. I've never been able to find his stuff online.