Poll: Anyone else pissed at Mass Effect 2?

[k1assik]

*no Spoilers* Ive been playing through Mass Effect 2 this week and have found it quite lacking in comparison to the first game. I think from a storytelling standpoint it may be better than the first game but i don't understand why they made so many changes in core gameplay.Now it just feels like a standard cover based shooter with bad controls and super powers. I especially miss landing on planets and driving around to explore even though it was pretty much the same every time i thought it worked really well.So is there anyone else who feels this way or am i alone?

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Absolutely not.

I love every change they have made apart from:

a) Planet scanning (still sucks, but at least your space-radar can cross mountains without getting stuck...)

b) I can't make Shepard look like me in the new creator, and my imported Shep looks wierd.

It's up there with Fallout 3, one of my two favorite games I've ever played.

 

[Babrook]

I feel that everything in ME2 is superior to ME1. Combat flows better, better graphics, better optimization, better story, better characters, better side missions. The combat in ME2 feels like what BioWare tried to do with ME1 but came up short.

The only gripes I have are incredibly minor - the new inventory system where everything is an upgrade as opposed to new items, and the ammo system. Both are incredibly minor.

 

[TheNumber1Zero]

A little sad that my main weapons weren't infinite (Heavy weapon Ammo was just fine), as well as only being able to use one ability at a time, but overall I'm quite happy with it.

 

[L3m0n_L1m3]

I loved everything about ME2. It's currently in my Top 3 games list.

My only real complaint was that I'm probably going to have to wait a loooong time for the finale to be released.

 

[-Seraph-]

I find it better than the first in every aspect. You said it felt like a standard cover based shooter with bad controls? Are you shure you are not talking about the first game here? The gunplay and cover mechanics are a lot tighter and refined in ME2 instead of feeling like Gears of War lite like the first one did.

I think the only thing that annoyed me from a gameplay standpoint was the whole refueling your ship. As if scanning planets and exploring star systems wasn't time consuming enough, you gotta go back to the feul station if you explore too much. Yea...almost border-lining discouraging exploration there but it never took away as much time as the fucking mako.

As someone who was very disappointed by the first game, I have to say that this game has regained my faith in this series. Good job Bioware, you regained your footing with me after that pile of average that was the first game.

 

[CmdrGoob]

Better than the original in every way. The gameplay is so much sharper and better to play, the story is better (more original; ME1 had some good moments but at heart it was a generic fantasy only set in space), the writing is even better, the characters are better, the secondary quests are so much better it's incredible. And I don't miss the uninteresting, somewhat annoying drives around bland planets that have nothing more than different coloured random lumps and the odd copy/paste outpost.

The few little nitpicks about it I could make would be so trivial in the face of everything it does right. Already one of my favorite games ever.

 

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[Avatar Roku]

Absolutely not.

I love every change they have made apart from:

a) Planet scanning (still sucks, but at least your space-radar can cross mountains without getting stuck...)

b) I can't make Shepard look like me in the new creator, and my imported Shep looks wierd.

It's up there with Fallout 3, one of my two favorite games I've ever played.

Agreed on everything except your second point, which I only disagree with because I always used defaults anyway, I never like crafting my character's face (except when I made my Fallout 3 character look like Gordon Freeman, that was awesome).

 

[Srkkl]

I loved every bit. The combat works pretty damn well, it's mainly cover based if your one class like Infiltrator or Adept but you can get away with being up close a lot of the time with Vanguard. I also find it funny as hell that everyone complained about the Mako and now they're bitching about not being able to drive it on planets.

 

[Avatar Roku]

I loved every bit. The combat works pretty damn well, it's mainly cover based if your one class like Infiltrator or Adept but you can get away with being up close a lot of the time with Vanguard. I also find it funny as hell that everyone complained about the Mako and now they're bitching about not being able to drive it on planets.

I know. Some people will never be pleased.

 

[Furioso]

Wow I cannot believe you actually liked planet exploring in the Mako, and how are the controls bad?

 

[Souplex]

I too miss the Mako.
They also made the RPG elements a bit too shallow.
They still failed to add melee weapons although they did finally make an "In your face" class.
The actual run N' gun mechanics have been improved though.

 

[-Seraph-]

Why do people keep thinking ME2 removed too many RPG elements!? They didn't remove them, just refined them god dammit. Everything is still there, but now there is not so much stupid redundancy like the first game had. Complaining about ME2 removing any of it's RPG elements is a joke, skills and weapons weren't dumbed down, and the shitty micro managing is the only thing that has been taken away. Hell if ME2 didn't satisfy me so much I'd be the asshole right now saying that ME2 is nothing more than a shooter with weak RPG elements tacked on.

Edit: Also the cover controls still suck. You can't take cover in corners, you constantly get removed from cover when using powers and such, and the biotic powers themselves are practically useless. Making all those neat new animations for the phyisics powers a waste of time.

Biotic powers useless? WTF!? They were VERY useful and powerful, how in gods name were they useless. I could bring into question your skill of the game but I won't, so please explain how they were useless I need to know if we played the same game or something.

 

[Avatar Roku]

It's an unfinished game that removed to many RPG aspects. Unlike the first one which removed to many shooter aspects. Hopefully bioware will get the balance right third time around.

Edit: Also the cover controls still suck. You can't take cover in corners, you constantly get removed from cover when using powers and such, and the biotic powers themselves are practically useless. Making all those neat new animations for the phyisics powers a waste of time.

Edit Edit: And don't get me wrong. It's a wicked game, still very fun. Just that after I enjoyed the first one so much for it's RPGness. I expected to enjoy the second one for the same. Having all of what I enjoyed about the first basically removed or gimped to heck led me to become extremely disappointed in the game, as it's not what I was led to believe. However, I stil enjoy many aspects of the game, just not the RPG parts.

Wait, wait...biotics were crap? Have you even used any? As an Adept, I have to respectfully say that you're wrong and that biotics are good once you get used to them. I mean, there was little use for Push, but Pull (useful on the many occasions that enemies are on the other side of chasms from you), Warp (heavily damages biotic Barriers and Armor), Shockwave (takes down multiple enemies straight in front), and Singularity (hard to describe, think of it as laying a trap) are amazing.

 

[HT_Black]

While I have a fair bit of complaints for the game, most of them have to do with whiny personal and ethical qualms, the majority of which have to do with the homogenization of gaming and American media in general. For my part, I thought the conversation was spot-on (albeit not as spot-on as the first one).

There was one good thing that came of it, though: I learned that, as fate would have it, I have Drell-grade memory.