I do them 'for the lulz' sometimes, like in TF2. Most of the time I don't pay that much attention to them though.
Poll: Are Achievements Worth The Effort?
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, gamerscore is a giant dickwaving competition. Nobody cares what your gamerscore is, it doesn't do anything. I'd say they aren't worth the effort since most of them don't take any effort but playing the game.
Honestly? Yes, I do think they are. They're basically what passes for gamer cred on Xbox Live, and the more you have of them, the better. Plus you get a warm fuzzy feeling inside every time you get more. 
So...
Grinding achievements = bad
Online achievements = bad
Achievements that nudge you towards trying new things in games = good
And people like talking about dicks and Gamerscore in the same sentence. Awesome.
Grinding achievements = bad
Online achievements = bad
Achievements that nudge you towards trying new things in games = good
And people like talking about dicks and Gamerscore in the same sentence. Awesome.
Not being on XBL, I don't have the nagging figure of a Gamer Score, so I can't express my feelings on that.
I'd only do pointlessly difficult achievements (such as HL2E2's Little Rocket Man) if I'm up for a challenge, otherwise I probably won't glance at it again.
I'd only do pointlessly difficult achievements (such as HL2E2's Little Rocket Man) if I'm up for a challenge, otherwise I probably won't glance at it again.
I go out of my way to get certain achievements, but if it's something rediculous like "Kill 400 people within the first 10 seconds of the match" like some of them are, screw 'em.
Well, yes and no.
For 360:
Yes because you love getting full gamerscore on a game you love. And no because you hate people who have 25k+ score and looks down on people who have maybe 3 or 4 highly scored games at 3-4000 score (not those with lots of score and are normal about it)
For WoW:
Yes because it helps people identify how skilled you are and gives you rewards.
No because people can inspect you and see how rich you are!
For others:
Yes because you love unlocking something.
For 360:
Yes because you love getting full gamerscore on a game you love. And no because you hate people who have 25k+ score and looks down on people who have maybe 3 or 4 highly scored games at 3-4000 score (not those with lots of score and are normal about it)
For WoW:
Yes because it helps people identify how skilled you are and gives you rewards.
No because people can inspect you and see how rich you are!
For others:
Yes because you love unlocking something.
Achievements that give you real rewards, such as the ones in Mass Effect, are worth the effort. They improve your gameplay experience.
Achievements that only reward gamerscore are pointless, and I have no idea why anyone cares about them. That number underneath your gamertag doesn't do squat.
The above statements also apply to WoW achievements. The ones that give you a title/pet/mount etc. are worth it. The ones that don't are not.
Achievements that only reward gamerscore are pointless, and I have no idea why anyone cares about them. That number underneath your gamertag doesn't do squat.
The above statements also apply to WoW achievements. The ones that give you a title/pet/mount etc. are worth it. The ones that don't are not.
They are a tool for games companies which allows them to keep track of peoples progress if they are online. This information tells them what level of difficulty people play on, how far people generally get in the game (what proportion of people manage to complete it.) what stuff people get involved in on their own (the purpose of the hidden achievements most likely) and what people are willing to do. For example, I wonder how many people actually played through as a neutral character in Fallout 3? Microsoft knows, and knows whether to factor in being neutral as a major point in the game next time. It helps them develop their games. Just another form of market research.
No. They are not a consistent measure of skill. The problem being, there are numerous ways to rack up a high gamerscore;
1.Buy lots of games- only proves that you have lots of money, or nothing else to spend it on.
2.Spend many hours working at each individual achievement- only proves perseverance/ lack of anything better to do.
3.Buy an account with a high gamerscore- Only proves you can breach ms t&c
4.Actually be very good at gaming- The problem with this one is that many acheivments are obscure, and reward perseverance over skill.
A persons gamerscore can't actually tell you anything, without further, extensive research. The Gamerscore is meaningless.
If anything, it is an accurate guide as to how sad someone is. People with hobbies, responsibilities, and social lives have little time to play games, never mind worry about their gamerscore. It is always, as far as i am experienced, those with little else in their lives, that put importance on their gamerscore.
1.Buy lots of games- only proves that you have lots of money, or nothing else to spend it on.
2.Spend many hours working at each individual achievement- only proves perseverance/ lack of anything better to do.
3.Buy an account with a high gamerscore- Only proves you can breach ms t&c
4.Actually be very good at gaming- The problem with this one is that many acheivments are obscure, and reward perseverance over skill.
A persons gamerscore can't actually tell you anything, without further, extensive research. The Gamerscore is meaningless.
If anything, it is an accurate guide as to how sad someone is. People with hobbies, responsibilities, and social lives have little time to play games, never mind worry about their gamerscore. It is always, as far as i am experienced, those with little else in their lives, that put importance on their gamerscore.
I see achievements as an utter waste of time, unless you're rewarded with something for them, like on TF2 for the PC.
I like how some games, when they're sold on Steam, advertise things like: "Now with 10 new achievements!"
Yay! Now with ten tiny little pictures that I have to grind and grind and do boring things for rather than just enjoying the game for what it is! Fantastic!
Honestly, those that feel like they've "achieved" something by getting these "awards" aren't gaming like they're meant to be; it's meant to be fun, and while some might be enjoyable to get (because they might make you try and do something you wouldn't normally do, and still be fun, like in Portal) most are just ridiculous.
EG: On Left 4 Dead, you get an achievement for, after contacting the rescue team, no survivor taking ANY damage. If someone came up to me and told me they'd gotten that achievement, I'd say:
"Yeah, and now what?"
Them: "Well, it makes me feel good about myself..."
Me: "Well, playing the game makes me feel good about myself because I enjoy it for what it is, and I don't need a little message popping up telling me how well I'm doing, because I can see that for myself and because I game for ME, and NO-ONE ELSE."
If you were gaming at home all day on your day off, while your partner was working, and they came home and you said to them: "I got the blah-de-blah achievement today!" I think they'd prefer it if they came home and you said: "I enjoyed gaming today, and had a really nice time."
Achievements were created on the 360 to get people to play the games more even once they've completed it. It's a strategy for the company, because the people play longer and maybe long enough to go and buy a sequel. It keeps you playing the same game and doing rubbish things just to feel good about yourself, and if that's what gaming has come to (needing a game to tell you how good you are), then I feel very depressed to be a gamer indeed.
Well, actually, I can just stay back and carry on not-caring about achievements, and those that do can carry on making me feel sorry for them.
Rant over.
I like how some games, when they're sold on Steam, advertise things like: "Now with 10 new achievements!"
Yay! Now with ten tiny little pictures that I have to grind and grind and do boring things for rather than just enjoying the game for what it is! Fantastic!
Honestly, those that feel like they've "achieved" something by getting these "awards" aren't gaming like they're meant to be; it's meant to be fun, and while some might be enjoyable to get (because they might make you try and do something you wouldn't normally do, and still be fun, like in Portal) most are just ridiculous.
EG: On Left 4 Dead, you get an achievement for, after contacting the rescue team, no survivor taking ANY damage. If someone came up to me and told me they'd gotten that achievement, I'd say:
"Yeah, and now what?"
Them: "Well, it makes me feel good about myself..."
Me: "Well, playing the game makes me feel good about myself because I enjoy it for what it is, and I don't need a little message popping up telling me how well I'm doing, because I can see that for myself and because I game for ME, and NO-ONE ELSE."
If you were gaming at home all day on your day off, while your partner was working, and they came home and you said to them: "I got the blah-de-blah achievement today!" I think they'd prefer it if they came home and you said: "I enjoyed gaming today, and had a really nice time."
Achievements were created on the 360 to get people to play the games more even once they've completed it. It's a strategy for the company, because the people play longer and maybe long enough to go and buy a sequel. It keeps you playing the same game and doing rubbish things just to feel good about yourself, and if that's what gaming has come to (needing a game to tell you how good you are), then I feel very depressed to be a gamer indeed.
Well, actually, I can just stay back and carry on not-caring about achievements, and those that do can carry on making me feel sorry for them.
Rant over.
Well duh not SUPER HARD ONES I the hardest I have gone so far is to beat gears 2 on insaneteutonicman said:
I love achievements, I love getting them, I love working to get them.
I think the best part of the whole thing are the ones where they do teach you things. Honestly there was nothing about the wandering mines that are tickers that made me think.... let's hit that with a stick.
They also get you to try new and different things, the 30 kills with each different gun in dead space was a good one, really gave you a chance to try everything out.
So yeah, I'm a complete achievement whore.
I think the best part of the whole thing are the ones where they do teach you things. Honestly there was nothing about the wandering mines that are tickers that made me think.... let's hit that with a stick.
They also get you to try new and different things, the 30 kills with each different gun in dead space was a good one, really gave you a chance to try everything out.
So yeah, I'm a complete achievement whore.
Sometimes achievements are worthwhile, such as the unlockables for Halo 3. They take you to parts of the game that you wouldn't normally see, and get you to do things you normally wouldn't do.
Other times, achievements, such as those gotten for simply beating a game or part of a game *looks at Fight Night Round 3* are pointless and not worth much of your time. Personally, I feel that achievements should be given out for actual achievements rather than just for checkpoints.
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Other times, achievements, such as those gotten for simply beating a game or part of a game *looks at Fight Night Round 3* are pointless and not worth much of your time. Personally, I feel that achievements should be given out for actual achievements rather than just for checkpoints.
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