Poll: Are christian conservatives global warming deniers?

[Lonan]

I've noticed that being anti-abortion and anti-gay seems to go hand in hand with not believing in global warming. It seems that VERY conservative people are against global warming as well as the other things mentioned.

Now, I am aware that the denialist movement has moved past whether or not it is happening and on to what global warming is caused by. First, the question scientists were asking each other was what was causing global warming. The intial thought was that it was natural cycles. Now the overwhelming amount of evidence has pushed this to how much of global warming is caused by humans and how much is by natural cycles.

But I would really like to address why people who are against abortion, homosexuality, against evolution, the full meal deal, and also against evidence for anthropogenic global warming.

I hope people don't find the poll too narrow. If you don't like any option, please write your thoughts below.

 

[grimsprice]

Oh no you did not just make this thread. Come on, really what were you thinking?

I'd be right there with you burning him at the stake metatron, but you've got to give him credit for combining EVERY SINGLE flame thread into one. This is the whole fucking deal.


OT: Yay for situationally specific abortion, Yay for homosexual marriage and equality. And of course, yay for evolution.

To that end, I'll say this; I believe what smarter men than I, say.

1: babies have synaptic activity in the womb. However getting raped by your uncle is another story.
2: being gay is genetic. And is therefore in the same arena as being black.

3: Evolution has a moon sized load of evidence backing it up.

4: Humanity produces green house gases in significant enough proportions to accelerate an already warming climate.

Yay for scientists! They're smarter than you!

 

[Lonan]

Oh no you did not just make this thread. Come on, really what were you thinking?

I know everyone says if you make a controversial thread it will create a "flame war" but what are you supposed to do, just drink tea and talk about cricket all day? You can't just not say things because people will get angry. If people say inappropriate things, they will be suspended or banned. In order to be able to talk about controversial things, people will just have to speak without all caps and be civilised, if they aren't they'll get hit by a moderator. I'm not going to keep silent about this observation of mine. If people want to make a flame war, it's my fault for creating the conditions, their fault for fighting. I take my part of the responsibility.

 

[Warrior Irme]

I am for AHE and think that global warming is not man made. We certainly contribute to it though.

 

[twistedshadows]

It seems that VERY conservative people are against global warming as well as the other things mentioned.

It seems to me you've answered your own question, if you know the definition of the word I'm aiming at here.

Oh, and there are people who believe that global warming is a natural occurrence the earth goes through every once in a while, which is to say they don't think it's man-made but they aren't denying it either.

you've got to give him credit for combining EVERY SINGLE flame thread into one. This is the whole fucking deal.

It is pretty impressive, isn't it?

 

[Knight Templar]

When you say "not believing" and "deniers" do you mean those that belive Climate Change is not cause by people/ we are not the sole reason or those that think it is a hox?
Because one of those a valid point of view, and the other is more of a conspiracy theory.

I don't think we are the cause, but we are making things worse, how much worse? I don't know what things would have been like without us so its a stupid question, the only question is what can we do now, which is clear.

Of course this view cahnges with new information so in a few weks time it may or may not be mine. I'm left wing liberal and I'm what you seem to call a "global warming denier", so I guess your sweeping statement was slightly off.


Also, your topic is a little bit flame bait, lets hope it doesn't cause trouble eh?

 

[grimsprice]

you've got to give him credit for combining EVERY SINGLE flame thread into one. This is the whole fucking deal.

It is pretty impressive, isn't it?

Hell yeah its impressive, and its not all half ass either. He actually has a single idea that binds it together. I'd give him a fucking medal for this.

 

[Skeleon]

"I am for AHE and think global warming is man made" is the closest I guess.
I know that the climate changes cyclically and that we're in for another heat wave.
However, I think that we're speeding up and amplifying the process.

 

[riskroWe]

Supporting the right to abortion is not the same as being pro-abortions...
Supporting the right to gay marriage is not the same as being pro-homosexuality...
And whether you're for or against evolution is not important. It's either true or not, regardless of what you'd like it to be...

*votes anyway*

 

[Aedrial]

I'm thinking global warming is part of a large cycle that we(humans) have stupidly sped up.
When it comes to AHE i think people can make their own decisions.

 

[Ghost8585]

Oh no you did not just make this thread. Come on, really what were you thinking?

He wants to lose his eyebrows.

OT: Yes, why do you think when pressed more big corporate CEO's say that they are Christians? Because Christianity is probably the only religion that allows for the raping of the planet. To them it doesn't matter because the rapture is coming!

 

[Samurai Goomba]

I not even going to-... Wait, what? No. Have fun, all ye who like to feel superior in your atheistic and evolutionary ideals. This topic will bring nothing but arrogant tossers and disgruntled flamers. There are basically two responses to this thread:

Atheist: "I AGREE CHRISTIANS ARE ALL HORRIBLE. I AND THOSE WHO THINK LIKE ME ARE AWESOME."

Christian: *incomprehensible sputtering as head turned bright red and steam shoots out of ears*

Global warming is happening. You can head down to Alaska and measure the melting of the ice. How severe a problem it is is a matter for debate. And Al Gore needs to shut his mouth. Some human activities have probably sped it up. I blame China and India. Lack of environmental regulations and cows, respectively. I'm not touching any of that other stuff with a 20-foot pole.

And religion in today's world is hardly an indication of political affiliation or personal morals. People just like to pretend it still is because then they can gripe about "the man."

 

[Imat]

Now, I am aware that the denialist movement has moved past whether or not it is happening and on to what global warming is caused by. First, the question scientists were asking each other was what was causing global warming. The initial thought was that it was natural cycles. Now the overwhelming amount of evidence has pushed this to how much of global warming is caused by humans and how much is by humans.

I question "overwhelming amount of evidence." Was this the same "overwhelming amount of evidence" behind the global ice age 20-30 years ago? Because I honestly think that may be less "overwhelming" and more "not overwhelming."

That's pretty much it, really. I'd say more, but that would most certainly start a flame war and, much as I like shouting my views at a wall, won't change any opinions. So I won't.

 

[AmrasCalmacil]

I fall into two of those catagories. I like...

Spoiler: Or do I?

No I don't.

...the way you've instantly assumed that people against abortion/evolution/homosexuality must be Christian. Nice.

I'm against abortion in most cases, for reasons that shall remain my own, yet I'm not much of a believer in global warming and/or it's contribution to by humanity. I'm also conservative in many ways.

I'd also like to congratulate the OP for this ticking incendary bomb.

Yes, I know they probably won't tick.

 

[mshcherbatskaya]

With respect to ecology and conservative Christianity, there is a growing "stewardship" movement in the Christian right wing. The idea being that in the bible, God gave us stewardship of the Earth and told us to take good care of it, and we aren't. Basically, from that perspective, pollution and ecological destruction are inherently sinful, because we aren't doing what God told us to do.

A lot of fundamentalist Christians also believe in global warning and believe it is part of the prophecies of the End Times and the return of Christ. My mother, who is a fundamentalist Christian, and I both believe that the world is on the brink of ecological collapse. I think we need to stop this from happening. My mom thinks we need to do our best with the planet as good stewards of what God gave us, but that we can't stop global warming, etc. because it's all part of God's plan and a sign that Jesus is coming back soon.

Although, I guess my mom doesn't really fit in with the people you describe, because she also believes in evolution, supports gay rights (lucky for me!), and believes a woman should be able to choose whether or not to keep a pregnancy. She just goes to church with a lot of people who don't.

 

[kippers and biscuits]

Some human activities have probably sped it up. I blame China and India.

Haha, that would be very big of the Western World wouldn't it, we rape the worlds resources then sit back on our fat pile of established wealth and criticise other countries trying to do the same for polluting the atmosphere. Until America wakes up and realises that what they call extreme left is what everyone in Europe calls the center then conservative rich business men are just going to continue driving themselves and everyone else into self destruction.

 

[Emilie Diabolica]

GAH

you lumped being anti-abortion with anti-gay rights

*facedesk*

i am pro human rights. which means for me that i am pro-life and pro-gay rights. evolution is pretty obvious, and global warming is probably a natural cycle that has been accelerated by humans.

gahrrrfack i hate being slotted into a category
>.<