Poll: Are you annoyed at Sherlock Holmes 2 ending? [SPOILERS inside]

[itaywex]

Just the fact that Holmes lives because I actually liked this ending better than the "real one" in which Holmes died in the end of the short story "The Final Problem" (which he and moriarty falls to their deaths at a waterfall).

So basically, do you like the fact that they changed the ending?

(Bear in mind that even if Holmes dies it doesnt prevent them from making more movies, even Conan Doyle wrote more stories after "The Last Probelm" that told of more adventures of Holmes and Watson).

 

[Dr. Pepper Unlimited]

That's news to me. I hate the fact that they butchered Sherlock Holmes twice now. I saw the first one and felt like vomiting, so I refuse to give them more money by seeing the second one.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

Just the fact that Holmes lives because I actually liked this ending better than the "real one" in which Holmes died in the end of the short story "The Final Problem" (which he and moriarty falls to their deaths at a waterfall).

So basically, do you like the fact that they changed the ending?

(Bear in mind that even if Holmes dies it doesnt prevent them from making more movies, even Conan Doyle wrote more stories after "The Last Probelm" that told of more adventures of Holmes and Watson).

I thought it was a great twist, as I knew that he died in the books by falling off a waterfall fighting Moriarty, so that brought my guard down from thinking "Oh, there must be some way he's survived." to "Oh, it's a homage to the books!"
But then they subvert it slowly, by showing the mask in the box, and at first you're not sure what it means, but then it dawns on you that he used it to breathe, and then Holmes turns out to have been wearing his urban camoflage suit and watching Watson all along, two Checkovs gun in a row! I thought it was a clever and cheeky, upbeat way to end the film.

Oh, and I really enjoyed both of them as well, thought they were really well done and can't really fault them.

 

[TimeLord]

I was never a great fan of the original books/storyline etc so the ending of the second film genuinely surprised me as I thought they had killed him for good and there were going to be no more films. Which would have made me sad because I like the films!

Or maybe it's just because I love Robert Downey Jr in everything he's in.

 

[Supertegwyn]

Just the fact that Holmes lives because I actually liked this ending better than the "real one" in which Holmes died in the end of the short story "The Final Problem" (which he and moriarty falls to their deaths at a waterfall).

So basically, do you like the fact that they changed the ending?

(Bear in mind that even if Holmes dies it doesnt prevent them from making more movies, even Conan Doyle wrote more stories after "The Last Probelm" that told of more adventures of Holmes and Watson).

But even in the books Sherlock doesn't die, ACD retconned it so he lived. I don't get your point.


OT: I hated the first film, but I might see the second.

 

[Something Amyss]

Just the fact that Holmes lives because I actually liked this ending better than the "real one" in which Holmes died in the end of the short story "The Final Problem" (which he and moriarty falls to their deaths at a waterfall).

So basically, do you like the fact that they changed the ending?

(Bear in mind that even if Holmes dies it doesnt prevent them from making more movies, even Conan Doyle wrote more stories after "The Last Probelm" that told of more adventures of Holmes and Watson).

Didn't Holmes return in the stories in a series of new adventures that post-date his death? Doesn't that kind of nix the exact outrage you're going after, since Doyle himself retconned the "death" of Holmes?

american movies tend to go for happy endings rater than a more logical and more meaningfull ending.

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see:
Bad Ass (original: he doesn't get the girl, the father dies he is still a loser)

I am legend (he sees that the vampiric mutants are a new society by itself rather than mindless monsters. he realises that he has been a monster, abducting people and mutants to experiment on)

and more

please no more!

In fact, that's the reason for the title "I am legend." Kind of...Missing the point, Hollywood.

I haven't seen the movie, so if I took your meaning wrong, and they actually took cues from the book, my apologies. I read it as otherwise.

An example of not having a happy ending I can think of is

Spoiler: You've been warned

The "Director's Cut" or whatever of The Butterfly Effect. While the movie was pretty awful, I liked the way the intended ending portrayed that there was no way to have a happy ending here. The other ending wasn't exactly cheery either. However, it also made the movie seem rather pointless, so it's kind of a bittersweet way to end the movie. Personally, I wanted to go back in time two hours and kick my friend in the groun before he rented the movie, and damn the causality!

 

[itaywex]

I never heard of Holmes death being retconned, for all I know ACD continiude to write SH stories as "memories" of watson (more stories before his death- so he didnt have to change the death of Holmes) but I might be wrong...

 

[Flailing Escapist]

To put it simply I would've given the movie more credit if they actually killed him off. But I still thought it was a great movie.

 

[Supertegwyn]

I never heard of Holmes death being retconned, for all I know ACD continiude to write SH stories as "memories" of watson (more stories before his death- so he didnt have to change the death of Holmes) but I might be wrong...

Nope, after HOB he changed it so Holmes lived. The last book in fact is set during Holmes's retirement (I think)

 

[aprildog18]

Yeah, the books have him as surviving. Of course the author didn't do that in the beginning. Fans got angry so he made another book bringing Sherlock to life.

 

[Dan Power]

I wish he would've died in the ending, I understand that he used the breathing apparatus to survive but there is no explanation for the fall from the balcony that is shown earlier to be far above a survivable fall coupled with the temperature of the water and how no-one else knew what he was doing so there would've been no help after he got out of the water (therefore he would've had to walk for a long time in sodden clothing in sub zero temperatures). He should have died but Hollywood won't give up on an opportunity to milk more money out of an idea.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

But he doesn't die, even in the books. Doyle revives him in one of his later books. Personally, I'm just glad they kept true to what happened in the book itself, with both of them fighting and then falling over a large waterfall.

I wish he would've died in the ending, I understand that he used the breathing apparatus to survive but there is no explanation for the fall from the balcony that is shown earlier to be far above a survivable fall coupled with the temperature of the water and how no-one else knew what he was doing so there would've been no help after he got out of the water (therefore he would've had to walk for a long time in sodden clothing in sub zero temperatures). He should have died but Hollywood won't give up on an opportunity to milk more money out of an idea.

The entire movie is based around him surviving due to a combination of his skill, his intellect and his luck. You can't throw common logic into a story where all 3 are involved because if you did, he would have died back on the train. Remember the lipstick he placed into that one guys ammo belt. There must have been a 1 in 12 chance that guard would be aiming at them and an even slimmer chance that he would have loaded the planted lipstick into his rifle.

Trust me mate, its better if you don't think about it.

 

[WorriedSandwich]

I thought it was better to announce his survival in this move than having the innevitable sequel to come up with some random excuse.

 

[Xangba]

I'm fairly certain he survived that fall in the books anyway, so I don't see the huge deal. I enjoyed the movie and I think these two are the best Holmes and Watson I've seen. Certainly wouldn't complain if they did another.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

From what I've been told, Arthur Conan Doyle brings him back after the mass of people hating the ending of that short story.

Umm, yeah. I was a little shocked with the ending, though I severely doubted that they were gonna leave him dead.

But to be honest, I was more disappointed that the gypsy chick they were traveling with didn't turn out to be the man destined to assassinate the person. For some reason I really thought it was going to turn out like that.

 

[Mycroft Holmes]

As other have said: He survived the fall in the books, so the OP is incorrect. Arthur Conan Doyle got tired of everyone demanding more Sherlock Holmes books so he killed off the character. People were so annoyed at him though that he was basically forced to bring the character back.

As for the execution of it, I think it was fine to bring him back at the end as it stays true to the series, and makes for a better movie ending. I'm sure they did test runs with an ending of him just being dead. What I was more surprised at was Irene Adler's death. I haven't read the whole series so maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember her dying at all.

It does not really matter that much in the long run as there are lots of different versions of Sherlock Holmes in both TV and Movies. And so long as this one does not fall into the bumbling Watson trend, I will continue to enjoy it.

 

[CODE-D]

Loved it, mad at myself for not figuring out he was right there and used the o2 device.
and the question mark-perfect
Movie of my year frankly.
Too many movies end open ended and are shit that way if it doesnt call for it mostly cause they cant think of a good one.

What annoys me are all these "purists" who apparently dont know shit about the detective that point and say thats not how its s'posed to be/they did it wrong.



Cant wait for the next one, hopefully he goes against jack the ripper, and even better if they make a whole series of movies.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I hated the ending just because of how unrealistic it is.

It wouldn't matter that he has a breathing apparatus, at best he'd still die of hypothermia from that water, and at worst he'd break every bone in his body from that fall.