Dags90 said:
IQuarent said:
I'm going to have to agree with that. I have not seen any proof that it is form birth. I am inclined not to believe that it is because from a "natural selection" point of view, being gay would be a defect, becasue it keeps the said persons genes form being in the gene pool.[footnote]See my post here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.237559-Poll-Are-you-Homophobic?page=11#8504912 [/footnote] And yet, there is a increasing population of gay people in each generation[footnote] I've never seen that proven, most sociologists believe its remained pretty constant (and is constant across cultures). What has changed is acceptance, leading to more open homosexuals.[/footnote]. Logically, it does not make sense to be born with it. If you can be born with it, then it has to be genetic[footnote]Ever hear of thalidomide?[/footnote], and it can not be genetic. It is impossible. The only other explanation is for it to be a defect, and I do not think that it is. Therefore, it only makes sense that it is a lifestyle choice. I'm not saying people WANT to be gay (I'm not saying they don't either), I am saying it is a point of view born from circumstances that have nothing to do with birth.
There are so many problems with this post it makes my head hurt. Going to deal with them point by point in footnotes.
Okay, I have to admit that I took some liberties with this post, especially the "third" footnote. Obviously I was wrong when I said "it has to be genetic, but what I meant was that at the growing rate of which homosexuals are growing is almost as much as if it actaully were genetic, even though it is not.
I feel a little bit offended that you considered my argument demeaned to footnotes, instead of making a counter-point, but honestly, I can't really make much of an argument there becasue there was so much liberty and... wrongness in the post.
However, I must point out the fact that you haven't really made an argument for the fact that homosexuality is genetic at all. You made a vague argument about triggers that could be used to instigate it, but really, it is so vague that it could be applied to almost every genetic outcome I can think of. Really, you clearly know much more about genetics, so I can't really make a reasonable statement with being a complete dumbass.I was just hoping that you would clarify your statement with some decent fact, even if they are subjective facts (which would make not facts, I guess, but still...)