well my obsession as a person with asperger's was military weapons. I researched them all the time and it was always WW2 because that's my favorite time in history. When 6/6/06 was coming up kids got worried that I was going to blow up the school. I had never displayed and signs of being violent nor did I ever say or write that I wanted to hurt people. The police thought that was grounds enough to put me in a mental hospital for three long traumatizing days.Bright_Raven said:
Poll: Asperger Syndrome [please vote, even if you don't know what it is]
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Sorry, but I just don't think Aspergers is actually a thing. Or at least, I don't think 99% of the people who say they have it actually do. Aspergers was never meant to be defined as a mental condition but rather a pattern of behavior which warranted further study.
The more you do stuff, the better you get at it. Sure talent plays a part, and some people are naturally more talented than others, but everyone has the ability to develop different skills. So if you spend all day talking and interacting with people, you will get better at it. If you spend all day tinkering with computers and playing videogames, you will get better at that too. Claiming one person is disabled because they lack a certain skill is ludicrous. You don't have some kind of wacky retard space brain because other people make you nervous. Everyone is weird in some way, no one is normal. Everyone has their thing.
Furthermore, I think telling a kid that they are mentally disabled and will never be able to interact with people normally is one of the most heinous things you can do to someone. If you tell a kid he will never succeed at something, they will most likely never try. So to everyone who claims they have aspergers and thinks we need to "learn to understand their problems," grow up, get over your shit, and learn to get along with people like an adult.
The more you do stuff, the better you get at it. Sure talent plays a part, and some people are naturally more talented than others, but everyone has the ability to develop different skills. So if you spend all day talking and interacting with people, you will get better at it. If you spend all day tinkering with computers and playing videogames, you will get better at that too. Claiming one person is disabled because they lack a certain skill is ludicrous. You don't have some kind of wacky retard space brain because other people make you nervous. Everyone is weird in some way, no one is normal. Everyone has their thing.
Furthermore, I think telling a kid that they are mentally disabled and will never be able to interact with people normally is one of the most heinous things you can do to someone. If you tell a kid he will never succeed at something, they will most likely never try. So to everyone who claims they have aspergers and thinks we need to "learn to understand their problems," grow up, get over your shit, and learn to get along with people like an adult.
I'm going to give you an insight into how Aspergers syndrome looks like from the inside.Grampy_bone said:
It probably wont make much sense, but its worth a try...
For a start, I have no idea how you think, but I can hazard a guess because I sit comparatively close to 'the norm' as Aspergers goes:
imagine that you believe everything has, at some level, a set of rules that completely define everything about it, in every way. you believe this, even though it may not be true, and you search for these sets of rules in everything
with things that follow rules in totality, e.g. maths, physics, chemistry, computers etc, life is great, because your need for rules means that you grip them firmly, and you understand them easily. However, with less predictable things, which are effected by hundreds of factors, many of which it is impossible to know, the absence of any rule to follow, of any way to understand the actions of people interact with them, leads to a terrible difficulties dealing with other people.
yes, Aspergers is a difference in ability, but the thing you are missing is that it stems from a different way of thinking.
make any sense?
Diagnosed. Was about five years ago. I don't really have a lot of stories to tell about it, or much to say, but I've been through some shit because of it, but in some respects have learnt to live with it. It helps to have a really supportive family. Sometimes I behave more like I have AS than other times, and most people say that they wouldn't know I had it without being told. But then, I have a freakout, or a certain event triggers me, and all becomes clear.
Do I use AS as an excuse sometimes? Sure. I don't build my whole life around the excuse, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't convenient at times. But there are also times when I'd do anything to switch places with anyone else. I wouldn't always want to be rid of the condition, because it is such a huge part of who I am. I've read a lot of things in this thread that may lead someone to believe that AS is a terrible condition which wouldn't be wished upon anybody. Maybe my perspective is blurred by the fact that most would say that I am a fairly mild case of AS - enough to make me a social recluse, make me quit college and such, but not enough that I can't function. But from my perspective, AS is a condition with a lot of drawbacks, but also plenty of positives. If nothing else, it makes me who I am.
Do I use AS as an excuse sometimes? Sure. I don't build my whole life around the excuse, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't convenient at times. But there are also times when I'd do anything to switch places with anyone else. I wouldn't always want to be rid of the condition, because it is such a huge part of who I am. I've read a lot of things in this thread that may lead someone to believe that AS is a terrible condition which wouldn't be wished upon anybody. Maybe my perspective is blurred by the fact that most would say that I am a fairly mild case of AS - enough to make me a social recluse, make me quit college and such, but not enough that I can't function. But from my perspective, AS is a condition with a lot of drawbacks, but also plenty of positives. If nothing else, it makes me who I am.
I have AS, and judging from some of the posts here I'm one of the lucky ones, I havent had that meany bad experiances as of yet I expect its just a matre of time though. Unlike a lot of ppl with AS I dont always lean t'ward logical thinking, in fact I try not to but I do in some situations, like when I'm trying to figure somthing out but I prefer thinking without words when I can, I found that my mind is a very primal place when not thinking so in that regard I'm one of the unlucky ones who have two very differant sides to my mind one sensible and a weaver of words, the other an animal, it's very strange being like that so my case is a two-edged sword.
Overall though I dont mind being like that, I feel it gives me a unique perspective of the world shared only by others with this cursed blessing.
Overall though I dont mind being like that, I feel it gives me a unique perspective of the world shared only by others with this cursed blessing.
Nah I don't have it, even though I show some of the symptoms, but I'm just a shitty person. I kind-off know what it is though.
I'm cool with Aspergers, Aspergers definatly is a defect and not the 'next stage in evolution'. Humans are social animals, Aspergers screws up someone's social abilities, that ain't good. The gene name is awesome though, gotta give you that.Bright_Raven said:
I'm sorry, can you tell me where I said that Autism and Aspergers ARE related?Bright_Raven said:
Agree or not, Aspergers used to be simply be "Social Anxiety". It's legitimized and given relevance for an HMO by being given a diagnosis.
This thread has been really interesting seeing how people view AS. From my experience(I don't have AS)there are two type of people with AS just like there are two types of people with ADD.(This is mostly coming from my experiences as a camp counselor working with AS/autism) There's the borderline normal, slightly awkward kid; indistinguishable from a "regular" shy kid and then there's the borderline Autistic kid that stands out like a sore thumb. If you're in the second group there is no subtle mystery to what you have; it is noticeable to an untrained eye.(As either autism or AS; I don't know how to recognize the distinction.)
I have Asperger's Syndrome I honestly do not think that I should be treated differently just because my brain did not form "correctly". That does not mean that I do not want help, I just want to be treated by my friends the same as anyone else without this disorder. I have been known to have trouble describing events to people and have massive trouble writing down my thoughts. But I very intelligent and technologically proficent. It 's a blessing and curse.
The worst part is the people that refuse to believe that mental disorders exist, people that force self discovery (especially the people in the education system), and the people that believe that they will find a cure for autism. The last group earns the most my ire because I bet most people in those groups really don't care about the real issue, that being instead trying curing the problem, start trying to help the people that want to fully feel in control of their minds and bodies.
The worst part is the people that refuse to believe that mental disorders exist, people that force self discovery (especially the people in the education system), and the people that believe that they will find a cure for autism. The last group earns the most my ire because I bet most people in those groups really don't care about the real issue, that being instead trying curing the problem, start trying to help the people that want to fully feel in control of their minds and bodies.
I was diagnosed with Aspergers as a child (and I mean this as in 'medically diagnosed by an official' not 'looked up the symptoms on wikipedia and feel sorry for myself') and still suffer from some of the problems connected with it. I believe that I have gotten through the worst of it now and (compared to what I used to be like) am now considerably more 'normal' and social although I never recieved any special support or treatment etc.
Aspergers syndrome is awkward to properly diagnose for the same reason conditions like Sschizophrenia and OCD are, that being that the symptoms of the condition comprises of things that are common among many different illness's and abnormalities (it is very easy to misdiagnose a person with OCD when they are in fact anorexic or to mix up OCD and schizophrenia) and that sometimes perfectly normal people can exhibit said behavior under certain conditions (we've all probably had times when our mind is disorganised and we have trouble saying something but that doesn't mean we all have schizophrenia).
I also believe that some people (not many, but some) use condition's like Aspergers to excuse or justify their own social ineptitude, to aquire the attention or benefits it provides or as a 'sob story' to get sympathy and as a scapegoat (pin an accident on a conditon that can't be helped and people aren't quite as angry about it).
Aspergers syndrome is awkward to properly diagnose for the same reason conditions like Sschizophrenia and OCD are, that being that the symptoms of the condition comprises of things that are common among many different illness's and abnormalities (it is very easy to misdiagnose a person with OCD when they are in fact anorexic or to mix up OCD and schizophrenia) and that sometimes perfectly normal people can exhibit said behavior under certain conditions (we've all probably had times when our mind is disorganised and we have trouble saying something but that doesn't mean we all have schizophrenia).
I also believe that some people (not many, but some) use condition's like Aspergers to excuse or justify their own social ineptitude, to aquire the attention or benefits it provides or as a 'sob story' to get sympathy and as a scapegoat (pin an accident on a conditon that can't be helped and people aren't quite as angry about it).
Independence is all good and well, though a little over-hyped, in my opinion. And who says we can't or won't socialize just because it's hard, or that we should trade in our unique perspectives/abilities to make it easy? I'm not saying we're above others, nor below them. We're just different if you ask me.
I know a guy with Asperger's syndrome, and I think it's a crock of shit. The guy is a socially retarded, self-centered asshole who brands himself a 'creative genius'. He's a guy the rest of us have to put up with because he really doesn't have any other friends.
The guy also uses his 'condition' as an excuse, in a lot of things. He blames it for his semi-illiteracy (something which doesn't even make sense), used it to get out of boot-camp, has a week-day off for some reason, and is in general an obnoxious twat.
I haven't met any other sufferers, however, if they are all like him, they should be euthanized.
The guy also uses his 'condition' as an excuse, in a lot of things. He blames it for his semi-illiteracy (something which doesn't even make sense), used it to get out of boot-camp, has a week-day off for some reason, and is in general an obnoxious twat.
I haven't met any other sufferers, however, if they are all like him, they should be euthanized.
I came down with some pretty bad Asperger's last year. I had just came back from a holiday in lanzarote so the doctors thought it had something to do with the water. I was ill with it for about 3 weeks before it cleared up! Bloody nightmare!