Poll: Australian man acquitted of rape due to Skinny Jeans

[Deleted]

We don't know how fat she is or how tight per particular pants are. I can't comment on this.

The intent should still be a charge though.

 

[Iron Lightning]

As I do not have a source of information with more information than the rather shallow one provided, I believe I ought to go to sleep now. I'm spending too much bloody time on the internet as it is.

 

[pearcinator]

hahaha its completely true!

Us Aussies are not rapists! We're too lazy to even bother fighting a woman...especially since theres a LOT of hot women in Australia theres plenty to go round so theres no point in fighting.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

We don't know how fat she is or how tight per particular pants are. I can't comment on this.

The intent should still be a charge though.

You have to prove intent as well.

 

[Iron Lightning]

We don't know how fat she is or how tight per particular pants are. I can't comment on this.

The intent should still be a charge though.

If he had intent to rape and failed in the attempt, then he has not raped and the not guilty verdict is just. He could be legitimately brought up on sexual harassment charges, however.

 

[Bellvedere]

OK - you may find it a little crazy, but what if he was actually telling the truth and he didn't rape her? There are plenty of fucked-up women out there too (not as many as men admittedly, but still).

The law works on the basis of proving something "beyond reasonable doubt", if the prosecution can't do that, then tough.

He was found innocent by a jury of his peers and his life wasn't ruined by a (possibly) wrongful rape conviction. As far as I'm concerned, he's innocent.

I agree. I'm sure the entire case wasn't build around the woman's clothing either.

It's still a pretty terrible argument, though if I were an innocent man just cleared of rape, that's not the story I would be want being printed.

 

[Agayek]

...are you fucking kidding me?

This is a joke right?

That's like saying...fuck I don't even know what that's like! It's so goddamn stupid and ridiculous that I can't even think of an analogy for it.

It's like saying it's her fault because she dressed like a whore.

 

[P.Tsunami]

Beyone all reasonable doubt

It's not up to him to prove his innocence. If the prosecution couldn't argue the facts of the case, including the trousers, in such a way as to convince a jury then tough shit. Remember "beyond all reasonable doubt", if the jury has even an inkling that the man is not guilty then they must not convict. Ten guilty men walking free is better than one innocent man in jail.

Yes, these are all obvious truths. None of them go counter to what I said.

 

[Agayek]

If he had intent to rape and failed in the attempt, then he has not raped and the not guilty verdict is just. He could be legitimately brought up on sexual harassment charges, however.

I'm not sure if this is applicable to Australia, but in the US we have (I believe) a criminal charge "intent to X", which covers failed attempts to commit whatever crime. The sentence is typically less severe, but not by a huge amount.

But yes, you are technically correct. And we all know how lawyers just love technicalities.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Beyone all reasonable doubt

It's not up to him to prove his innocence. If the prosecution couldn't argue the facts of the case, including the trousers, in such a way as to convince a jury then tough shit. Remember "beyond all reasonable doubt", if the jury has even an inkling that the man is not guilty then they must not convict. Ten guilty men walking free is better than one innocent man in jail.

Yes, these are all obvious truths. None of them go counter to what I said.

It doesn't matter how rediculous the trousers may seem (possible meme), if 12 members of the public can be convinced that they're difficult removal played a part, then that is one of the prices we pay for an adversarial system.

 

[P.Tsunami]

It doesn't matter how rediculous the trousers may seem (possible meme), if 12 members of the public can be convinced that they're difficult removal played a part, then that is one of the prices we pay for an adversarial system.

Once again, I agree. Ridiculous trousers are ridiculous though.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

It doesn't matter how rediculous the trousers may seem (possible meme), if 12 members of the public can be convinced that they're difficult removal played a part, then that is one of the prices we pay for an adversarial system.

Once again, I agree. Ridiculous trousers are ridiculous though.

Quick, we better kill this joke before it becomes viral, only suffering and death could come from this.

 

[Eponet]

"If the pants don't fit, you must acquit!"

What really scares me is that 9 people actually said "Yes, the jury was right"

Probably clumsy guys who couldn't take off skinny jeans from their dates.

OP: We don't know all the case but regardless I prefer to believe the acquaintance was not mainly on the grounds of skinny jeans.

Probably people with inside knowledge of the case and answered that way because of reasons unrelated to jeans.

 

[Captain Ninja]

and thus my faith in humanity continues to dwindle

 

[Snownine]

Where there is a will there is a way. Besides unless you are a total fucking retard, you shouldn't have much trouble pulling some pants down. They are made to come off! Maybe the makers should start advertising them as rape proof if they are so damn good.

 

[Flight]

The jury is completely wrong. That's not even logic; it's horrifying, misogynistic victim-blaming.

 

[David Bray]

While not condoning the jury, i have serious trouble getting my girlfriend's skinny jeans off. I find it plausible they wouldn't get them off without consent

 

[replingham153]

who in the name of 13% would say yes? Are you guys fucked in the head or sumthing?

 

[Daystar Clarion]

The jury is completely wrong. That's not even logic; it's horrifying, misogynistic victim-blaming.

Yeah, because women never cry wolf right? Seriously, unless you know all the facts of a case neither you, nor myself, can draw any conclusions from this man's aquittal.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

who in the name of 13% would say yes? Are you guys fucked in the head or sumthing?

As opposed to the vast majority of that no percentage who probably took one glance at a biased article and automatically shouted "OMGTEH RAPIST GOTZ AVAY WIV IT!!!!!111111ONEONEONE"?