Poll: Avatar: Who Did You Want to Win?

[Blatherscythe]

Well since the extended version of James Camerons Avatar comes out today I decided that since a few threads discussing Avatar covered all the basics, except one. Who did you want to win? I have seen a few threads about Avatar and appearantly some people wanted the humans to win. So which side did you want coming out on top and most importantly why?

I myself cannot really decide who's fault the whole thing was. The Na'vi were extreamly hostile, didn't want to negotiate, had a superiority complex (both sides did) and refused any sort of agreement where both sides could benifit. The humans were there for a fuel for space travel (unobtainium is that fuel for those who didn't know), but didn't respect the Na'vi's ways because in their minds it was tribal ritual bullshit, they tried many ways to negotiate with them (even making Na'vi clones as advocates), offered them some technology to assist them (refused) and their mining process was rather destructive to the planet.

I guess I'll side with humans for now, they wanted to negotiate, not start a war (some did but wouldn't start it). If there is something I left out which proves that they were comeplete bastards then please tell me.

 

[Axolotl]

Eywa or however it's spelled.

 

[Blatherscythe]

Eywa or however it's spelled.

Why do Militaries in space need algorythyms?

 

[Axolotl]

Eywa or however it's spelled.

Why do Militaries in space need algorythyms?

What? I seriously don't get what you're saying here.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

So apparently radar doesn't work on that planet, so that caused them to lose an entire fleet of gunships.

Strong EF interference will, in fact, screw with electronics.

So what about heat detection? Those gunships would have been equipped with heat detection if the marines had been there as long as they had claimed and therefore knew radar did not work.

The effectiveness of FLIR, and presumably it's futuristic equivalent largely on environmental conditions. Strong IR interference will, obviously, screw with your readings. Additionally, if the object one want's to track is of very similar temperature to the background IR levels, distinguishing between objects becomes incredibly tricky.

is based Couldn't stop thinking in my head, "See them with the radar, turn machine guns upwards while strafing, and the ENTIRE FUCKING FORCE of Na'vi would disintegrate in an instant under that machine gun fire. What the hell morons?"

The problem here is not simply that technology was against them. In spite of these mishaps they still overcame a huge numerical advantage on behalf of the natives. It was only the intervention of a significant portion of the native fauna that turned the tide. While there could still have been significant losses, the key advantage of firearms (that is, range) was negated both in the air and on the ground by terrain. On the ground, things were even worse as they were forced to contend with creatures who simply shrug off infantry weapon fire. Hell, one of those space cow/shark monsters simply absorbed a half dozen 30mm rounds without so much as slowing down. Keep in mind there were, at best, a few hundred marines against 2,000 Navi warriors and those were reasonable odds. They would have won the battle had it not been for the protagonist as, even if the force had been defeated, the shuttle bombing the well of souls would have "Destroyed" native resistance.

 

[Blatherscythe]

Eywa or however it's spelled.

Why do Militaries in space need algorythyms?

What? I seriously don't get what you're saying here.

Oh, so that wasen't an algorythym (As in U.N.S.C. or C.O.G. or S.P.E.C.I.A.L.). Forgive me I didn't bother to remember names in that movie.

 

[Cherry Cola]

There are two things I don't like about this thread.

1. Avatar came out in December. A bit late to the party are we?

2. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.228494-Poll-Avatar-Who-did-you-root-for?

I didn't want anyone to win, as neither side were particularly interesting, but since the bad guys were so ridiculously bad then I guess the Na'vi win by default.

 

[faspxina]

I think someone just made a pole like this a few hours ago?

Anyway, I think story wasn't made to be over-analyzed, so I think the Na'vi had the right to not want to negotiate with the humans, also they looked awesome. xD

 

[teisjm]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.228494-Poll-Avatar-Who-did-you-root-for

Same thread, created less than 12 hours ago. found on page 2, was on page 1 a few hours ago

Anyways i cheered for teh aliens, not the blue tribal ones but the xenomorphic, face-hugging, chestbursting, acid-blooded ones who shoots little mouths out of their mouths

 

[Blatherscythe]

There are two things I don't like about this thread.

1. Avatar came out in December. A bit late to the party are we?

2. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.228494-Poll-Avatar-Who-did-you-root-for?

I didn't want anyone to win, as neither side were particularly interesting, but since the bad guys were so ridiculously bad then I guess the Na'vi win by default.

Well... Damn, beat to the punch and did a better job as well. Also I posted this because the extended edition comes out today.

 

[Axolotl]

Eywa or however it's spelled.

Why do Militaries in space need algorythyms?

What? I seriously don't get what you're saying here.

Oh, so that wasen't an algorythym (As in U.N.S.C. or C.O.G. or S.P.E.C.I.A.L.). Forgive me I didn't bother to remember names in that movie.

It was the name of the god/planet consciousness.

Ultimately in my mind the humans in Avatar are a virus and I don't mean in some metaphorical way either. They essentialy arrive on the planet and start destroying Eywa's mind by destroying the trees. I can no more sympathise with them than I do with say the blackdeath in The Seventh Seal.

 

[AvsJoe]

I wanted the Na'vi to win solely because of Ney'tiri. I always root for the hot chick in movies. Notable exception: Transporter 2.

 

[RedBeta22]

Fuck the Navi. They can move to another damm tree. The 12 Billion people back on earth have nowhere to go. They need Pandora's resources if the want to survive!

 

[Socius]

the humans were imperialistic money-munching douchebags with some sort of mental dissorder. Na'vi all the way.

 

[rokkolpo]

the na'vi.

because the humans were kinda dicks. and didn't ride dinosaurs.

 

[SturmDolch]

I always love the underdog, especially when facing idiotic macho meatheads that are full of it. However, the Na'vi were annoying as hell, especially that moan the woman made when she cried. So damn annoying.

If I wrote the ending, I would have had the large battle start, the Na'vi win, then Darth Vader rolls by in his Death Star and says, "Oh no you didn't" and blows the planet up.

 

[CACAVILLE]

I wanted there to be a draw they both die. yay ^_^