Poll: Azor Ahai Reborn (Spoilers)

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Arsen

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Who do you all think the fiery sword wielding messianic hero of the series is going to be?

I have this slight theory that Robb's corpse with the wolf head might infact be the Great Other, which in that case, would be an awesome setup for a battle in the Winds of Winter.

My theory is Jon.

1. He lost his power in the water. Both in terms of Rhaegar Targaryen dying (he was murdered in a stream by Robert Baratehon), Winterfell being sacked, Stannis loosing the Battle of Blackwater Bay, and Robb being killed at the Twins.
2. Quite possible he's actually Aegon and the other person is an imposter (Red Herring)
3. Danaerys or undead Ygritte is probably the wife. Hence, the final prophecy that she will be betrayed in love.
4. He knows the prophecies. Maester Aemon directly told him, therefore he is going to carry them out. It says he'll test the sword on a lion. Probably going to be Jaime or Brienne that ends up being sacrificed.
5. Melisandre's vision...
 

Loop Stricken

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I know you've marked it spoilers, but for those of us who have only watched the TV show, we don't know WHAT this is spoiling.

Maybe edit the title?
 

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Loop Stricken said:
I know you've marked it spoilers, but for those of us who have only watched the TV show, we don't know WHAT this is spoiling.

Maybe edit the title?
this was my thought exactly, I looked at the title and thought "I don't even know what that is so I don't think it'll spoil anything"

But then I started reading and realized it was about Game of Thrones (specifically the books) it could have easily ruined the next couple seasons for me.
 

IndomitableSam

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If you relate Book 5 to Dany's trip through the House of the Undying -
it does lead to Jon. The rose growing in the wall of ice... and whatever the Giant tearing apart the guy in the starry cloak stands for over Jon's dying(?) body. There was something about stars and/or blood raining down, I can't really remember. And some other things. I can't remember everything, but even I put it together on my own, without reading theories. So it's gotta be pretty obvious. Plus the whole Rhaegar+Lyanna=Jon theory.

Edit: Not sure about the flaming sword, though... Someone other than him kills Yigrette, though... unless you count Lyannas's death somehow? Maybe when we know if he is her son and the exac circumstances of her death.
 

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IndomitableSam said:
If you relate Book 5 to Dany's trip through the House of the Undying -
it does lead to Jon. The rose growing in the wall of ice... and whatever the Giant tearing apart the guy in the starry cloak stands for over Jon's dying(?) body. There was something about stars and/or blood raining down, I can't really remember. And some other things. I can't remember everything, but even I put it together on my own, without reading theories. So it's gotta be pretty obvious. Plus the whole Rhaegar+Lyanna=Jon theory.

Edit: Not sure about the flaming sword, though... Someone other than him kills Yigrette, though... unless you count Lyannas's death somehow? Maybe when we know if he is her son and the exac circumstances of her death.
Jon also has a dream if I remember correctly of him standing on the Wall, covered in black armor and holding a flaming sword I think.
 

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There was the stone dragon thing (which gave Stannis that dragonstone debacle) and Danaerys is the one who revived dragons from stone.

As much as I think he's kind of cool, I don't think it will be Stannis. Too much evidence to the contrary.
 

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Arsen said:
Who do you all think the fiery sword wielding messianic hero of the series is going to be?

I have this slight theory that Robb's corpse with the wolf head might infact be the Great Other, which in that case, would be an awesome setup for a battle in the Winds of Winter.

My theory is Jon.

1. He lost his power in the water. Both in terms of Rhaegar Targaryen dying (he was murdered in a stream by Robert Baratehon), Winterfell being sacked, Stannis loosing the Battle of Blackwater Bay, and Robb being killed at the Twins.
2. Quite possible he's actually Aegon and the other person is an imposter (Red Herring)
3. Danaerys or undead Ygritte is probably the wife. Hence, the final prophecy that she will be betrayed in love.
4. He knows the prophecies. Maester Aemon directly told him, therefore he is going to carry them out. It says he'll test the sword on a lion. Probably going to be Jaime or Brienne that ends up being sacrificed.
5. Melisandre's vision...
Its got to be Danaerys. Melisandre foresaw events taking place, and signs that would point towards Azor Ahai. She thought that it was Stannis, but really they all coincide with Danaerys. She has misread a number of visions now, so why put your money on this one? Likewise, a Woods Witch prophesied that the Prince That Was Promised would be born from the line of Prince Aerys and Princess Rhaella. A Woods Witch who has proven to be better at reading future events than Melisandre.

I have no doubt that Jon has an important role to play (hoping that he can still play...), but anyone who has read up to book 5 has little interpretation as to who the prophecy speaks.

And your theory about Robb is terrible. R'hllor and The Other are constantly at battle with each other, exactly when are Robb and Jon constantly at war with one another? never. There is so much underlying symbolism within the books, and yet you see to have missed EVERYTHING.
 

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Wushu Panda said:
Arsen said:
Who do you all think the fiery sword wielding messianic hero of the series is going to be?

I have this slight theory that Robb's corpse with the wolf head might infact be the Great Other, which in that case, would be an awesome setup for a battle in the Winds of Winter.

My theory is Jon.

1. He lost his power in the water. Both in terms of Rhaegar Targaryen dying (he was murdered in a stream by Robert Baratehon), Winterfell being sacked, Stannis loosing the Battle of Blackwater Bay, and Robb being killed at the Twins.
2. Quite possible he's actually Aegon and the other person is an imposter (Red Herring)
3. Danaerys or undead Ygritte is probably the wife. Hence, the final prophecy that she will be betrayed in love.
4. He knows the prophecies. Maester Aemon directly told him, therefore he is going to carry them out. It says he'll test the sword on a lion. Probably going to be Jaime or Brienne that ends up being sacrificed.
5. Melisandre's vision...
Its got to be Danaerys. Melisandre foresaw events taking place, and signs that would point towards Azor Ahai. She thought that it was Stannis, but really they all coincide with Danaerys. She has misread a number of visions now, so why put your money on this one? Likewise, a Woods Witch prophesied that the Prince That Was Promised would be born from the line of Prince Aerys and Princess Rhaella. A Woods Witch who has proven to be better at reading future events than Melisandre.
It's very, very likely however that Jon is Rhaegar and Lyanna's son however... with all the hints and everything we've been given, so therefore he would be born from the line of Aerys and Rhaella.
 

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Clearly Dany.

Though I would have voted for Rickon if it was an option.
 

Arsen

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Wushu Panda said:
Arsen said:
Who do you all think the fiery sword wielding messianic hero of the series is going to be?

I have this slight theory that Robb's corpse with the wolf head might infact be the Great Other, which in that case, would be an awesome setup for a battle in the Winds of Winter.

My theory is Jon.

1. He lost his power in the water. Both in terms of Rhaegar Targaryen dying (he was murdered in a stream by Robert Baratehon), Winterfell being sacked, Stannis loosing the Battle of Blackwater Bay, and Robb being killed at the Twins.
2. Quite possible he's actually Aegon and the other person is an imposter (Red Herring)
3. Danaerys or undead Ygritte is probably the wife. Hence, the final prophecy that she will be betrayed in love.
4. He knows the prophecies. Maester Aemon directly told him, therefore he is going to carry them out. It says he'll test the sword on a lion. Probably going to be Jaime or Brienne that ends up being sacrificed.
5. Melisandre's vision...
Its got to be Danaerys. Melisandre foresaw events taking place, and signs that would point towards Azor Ahai. She thought that it was Stannis, but really they all coincide with Danaerys. She has misread a number of visions now, so why put your money on this one? Likewise, a Woods Witch prophesied that the Prince That Was Promised would be born from the line of Prince Aerys and Princess Rhaella. A Woods Witch who has proven to be better at reading future events than Melisandre.

I have no doubt that Jon has an important role to play (hoping that he can still play...), but anyone who has read up to book 5 has little interpretation as to who the prophecy speaks.

And your theory about Robb is terrible. R'hllor and The Other are constantly at battle with each other, exactly when are Robb and Jon constantly at war with one another? never. There is so much underlying symbolism within the books, and yet you see to have missed EVERYTHING.
The VERY FIRST scene in A Game of Thrones foreshadowed the ending and final battle. Somehow it's going to involve Eddard, Robb, Bran, and Jon...in some way. It's the mechanics of books.
 

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Jon Snow.

'Cause if George
killed him off, I will never forgive him. And I can't help but think that, with Melisandre there, there's a perfect chance for Jon to a. be resurrected A La Catelyn and b. take a more active role in Westeros events. (having, one assumes, ceased to be Night's Watch on death)
 

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Arsen said:
Wushu Panda said:
Arsen said:
Who do you all think the fiery sword wielding messianic hero of the series is going to be?

I have this slight theory that Robb's corpse with the wolf head might infact be the Great Other, which in that case, would be an awesome setup for a battle in the Winds of Winter.

My theory is Jon.

1. He lost his power in the water. Both in terms of Rhaegar Targaryen dying (he was murdered in a stream by Robert Baratehon), Winterfell being sacked, Stannis loosing the Battle of Blackwater Bay, and Robb being killed at the Twins.
2. Quite possible he's actually Aegon and the other person is an imposter (Red Herring)
3. Danaerys or undead Ygritte is probably the wife. Hence, the final prophecy that she will be betrayed in love.
4. He knows the prophecies. Maester Aemon directly told him, therefore he is going to carry them out. It says he'll test the sword on a lion. Probably going to be Jaime or Brienne that ends up being sacrificed.
5. Melisandre's vision...
Its got to be Danaerys. Melisandre foresaw events taking place, and signs that would point towards Azor Ahai. She thought that it was Stannis, but really they all coincide with Danaerys. She has misread a number of visions now, so why put your money on this one? Likewise, a Woods Witch prophesied that the Prince That Was Promised would be born from the line of Prince Aerys and Princess Rhaella. A Woods Witch who has proven to be better at reading future events than Melisandre.

I have no doubt that Jon has an important role to play (hoping that he can still play...), but anyone who has read up to book 5 has little interpretation as to who the prophecy speaks.

And your theory about Robb is terrible. R'hllor and The Other are constantly at battle with each other, exactly when are Robb and Jon constantly at war with one another? never. There is so much underlying symbolism within the books, and yet you see to have missed EVERYTHING.
The VERY FIRST scene in A Game of Thrones foreshadowed the ending and final battle. Somehow it's going to involve Eddard, Robb, Bran, and Jon...in some way. It's the mechanics of books.
What the hell?

Explain.
 

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I think Azor Azai will take the form of the Dragon that has three heads, so I'm thinking Dany, Jon and one other in some sort of epic dragon mounted tag team. As to Robb taking the form of the Great Other, I think thats a really cool idea and it's creepy enough to work, but whats your thinking behind it, I'm intrigued
 

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I'm not entirely sure but I'm torn between Dany and Jon. Dany seems likely but I can't help but feel like she's a too obvious choice. Jon also seems likely, especially if you buy into THAT particular theory about his birth. "Young Griff" could also be a candidate, making this...
Wolf In A Bear Suit said:
I think Azor Azai will take the form of the Dragon that has three heads, so I'm thinking Dany, Jon and one other in some sort of epic dragon mounted tag team.
...sound very interesting.

Also, does anyone else think the Red Priests are up to something weird? I find it hard to believe that Melisandre is that inaccurate with her visions and is so insistent on Stannis being Azor Ahai despite all the other evidence. Moqorro also claiming that Victarion Greyjoy has a special role to play in service to the Lord of Light is also weird. I can't help but feel that they're all orchestrating something big; the idea that they're just all wrong or following their own beliefs doesn't seem right for some reason. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it. The frequency of red comets is also interesting.
 

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Disaster Button said:
Also, does anyone else think the Red Priests are up to something weird? I find it hard to believe that Melisandre is that inaccurate with her visions and is so insistent on Stannis being Azor Ahai despite all the other evidence. Moqorro also claiming that Victarion Greyjoy has a special role to play in service to the Lord of Light is also weird. I can't help but feel that they're all orchestrating something big; the idea that they're just all wrong or following their own beliefs doesn't seem right for some reason. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it. The frequency of red comets is also interesting.
But we get a Mel, POV in Dance and she makes mistakes in that.
Although in that chapter we also have "I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R'hllor shows me only Snow".

so there's that
 

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I only say this because I can't remember the name of the character but I thought

The guy who leads the undead(?) band of soldiers who fight for Robert was supposed to be the reincarnation? Y'know the group Arya is brought too in Book Three part 1 and Catelyn winds up in after the Red Wedding
 

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Agent Larkin said:
I only say this because I can't remember the name of the character but I thought

The guy who leads the undead(?) band of soldiers who fight for Robert was supposed to be the reincarnation? Y'know the group Arya is brought too in Book Three part 1 and Catelyn winds up in after the Red Wedding
Beric Dondarrion, was the leader of the Brotherhood without Banners, he was the only undead one. Although he passed his zombieness to Cat, do you mean him?
 

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I don't normally do this but...

edit your fucking title!

For fuck sake dude, not everyone is going to know what you mean by the title just because you say "spoilers"!