Poll: Batman vs Spiderman

[Nabohs]

I was thinking the same thing and pretty much it would all depend on which suit Spider-Man was wearing.

Original Spidey Suit - Batman or spidey (Batman would counteract spidey's basic moves, but spiderman could be faster and punch out batman)

Venom-Spidey Suit - Batman (find someway to use sonics)

"Bionic Commando Arm" Suit - Spider-man (increased healing factor)

"Octo-Spidey" Suit - Batman (Batman would use Spidey's arms against him)

"Six-Arm Spidey" - Spider-man (Unlike the octo-arms, spidey would have more control over them)

Hulk Spider-man - Spider-man (Spider-man as strong as the hulk... 'nuff said)

Spider Carnage - Batman (See Venom-Spidey)

Spider-Phoenix - Spider-man (Spider-man with the powers of phoenix...)

Cosmic Spider-man - Spider-man (Same as Spider-Phoenix)

Civil War Spider-man Suit - Batman (It's tech, batman could possibly hack into it)

I think that is every form of Spider-man suit that Peter Parker has worn, and remember, all these may be wrong, it depends on who writes the story

 

[minuialear]

Spider Man is much stronger and much faster than Batman.

Then again, Batman is, well, Batman.

True, but Batman is only Batman because he knows the weaknesses of every meta human on the planet (and many off) in the DC universe. Since Spiderman is from the Marvel Universe, Batman will not be prepared enough to fight Spidy unless he was given a week to watch and learn about Spiderman.

That's not completely accurate, considering there are plenty of comics/the JL(U) cartoon which show Batman facing foes he's never seen before and still being able to use his intellect to figure out how to outmaneuver and beat his opponents. He doesn't need a "week" to intensively study Spiderman in order to figure out how to beat him (or any opponent, for that matter).

Which isn't to say that for *any* opponent he can just figure something out on the fly (if his opponent is more intelligent than him, that wouldn't work so well). But in this circumstance I don't think that's an accurate assessment.


OT: Batman's smarter by a longshot (in terms of tactics/street smarts/etc); even if he hasn't observed Spiderman in action, he'd be able to come up with a decent way of doing so and then figure out a way to disable him. He has Batarangs and his magical Grappling Hook in order to get out of most webs, and to disturb Spiderman's movements a bit (and has some other things he can do to mess him up, like throwing a bunch of them around to mess up his Spider-sense, etc). JL has shown that Batman may not hurl punches like Superman/Wonder Woman, but he can hold his own against those with powers, regardless of origin, whether by brute force or by sizing his opponents up and finding ways of messing them up on the fly. He also has actual martial arts training, and Spiderman still has nerves and joints that can be messed with in ways other than "Imma punch you real hard and break a bone."

Plus he has a spray for everything; he has to have some bug spray in that utility belt, along with the shark repellant.

 

[The Bucket]

I don't think you could compare them, Batman doesn't have superpowers. He's strong, fast, a good fighter and smart but no superpower.

Erm, do note that batman has gone up against SUPER-villains from time to time and come out victorious, and that some super-hero alliances have concluded that Bruce Wayne might just be the most dangerous man on earth.

Just goes to show tha super-powers will only get you so far. You still need innovative thinking and stealth/deception skills, which is why batman tend to win.

I'll go with Batman on this one. Spiderman is just too much of a green boy-scout with some super-powers.

This works under the assumption that Spiderman isn't stealthy/innovative. He goes up against Rouges who (on average) way outrank Bats ones, with only a few exceptions. Just because he is less tortued then Batman doesn't make him less effective.

Batman wins his fights with superhumans spending years researching their skills and pinpointing their weaknesses, and often has trouble with ones who don't have a clearly designated kryptonite esque weakness. Its hard to see what he could come up with to take care of Spideys speed, web and spider sense, and from the scenario it doesn't seem like he'd have time.

The Midnighter, that's my choice...

This, my friends, is the real answer to any Superhero versus thread.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Its hard to see what he could come up with to take care of Spideys speed, web and spider sense, and from the scenario it doesn't seem like he'd have time.

Spidey's speed, web and spider sense might be super-human, but there's still a limit to them. After all, Superman and The flash could be faster than Spidey. Some of the X-Men with precognitive abilities could make way more accurate predictions about the future than Spidey can with his "spider sense".

So clearly, there's a limit to his super-human abilities because there are others with power superior to Spidey out there in "comicverse".

So if there's a limit to these abilities, then those limits can be exploited. And that's kind of Bats forte. It's not the gadgets, the ninja training, the money, the car or anything like that, but his nack for almost instinctively finding the limits and weaknesses to the abilities of his enemies and exploiting them to his own favor.

It doesn't matter if his enemies have clear kryptonite-esque weaknesses or not. Just look at some of the characters that Bats goes up against and triumphs over, does The Joker have a clear cut "kryptonite"? The Penguin? Catwoman?

Sure, Twoface, Mr Freeze and Poison Ivy have pretty clear cut kryptonite (mess with Poison Ivy's plants, Twoface's coin or the suit temperature of Mr Freeze and it's pretty much over for them). But The Joker doesn't have any weakness like that, yet Bats tend to catch him and drag him kicking and screaming back to Arkham Asylum (until he escapes yet again that is ).

Sometimes Bats do this with weeks of planning. Sometimes he just does it on the fly. If he can do it on the fly with a villain like The Joker who's got some seriously ambiguous weaknesses, there's no reason why Batman wouldn't be able to do the same thing with Spidey.

THe real question however if Spidey or Batman is actually allowed to try and KILL eachother or not. Both of them tend to be on the "Never kill anyone, regardless of how warranted it may be to do it", but if all those rules are out the window, then I guess it's just a question of what radius Spidey's spider sense covers and if there's a sniper rifle with enough range to place the shooter outside of the spider sense radius or not

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Spider Man is much stronger and much faster than Batman.

Then again, Batman is, well, Batman.

True, but Batman is only Batman because he knows the weaknesses of every meta human on the planet (and many off) in the DC universe. Since Spiderman is from the Marvel Universe, Batman will not be prepared enough to fight Spidy unless he was given a week to watch and learn about Spiderman.

That's not completely accurate, considering there are plenty of comics/the JL(U) cartoon which show Batman facing foes he's never seen before and still being able to use his intellect to figure out how to outmaneuver and beat his opponents. He doesn't need a "week" to intensively study Spiderman in order to figure out how to beat him (or any opponent, for that matter).

Which isn't to say that for *any* opponent he can just figure something out on the fly (if his opponent is more intelligent than him, that wouldn't work so well). But in this circumstance I don't think that's an accurate assessment.


OT: Batman's smarter by a longshot (in terms of tactics/street smarts/etc); even if he hasn't observed Spiderman in action, he'd be able to come up with a decent way of doing so and then figure out a way to disable him. He has Batarangs and his magical Grappling Hook in order to get out of most webs, and to disturb Spiderman's movements a bit (and has some other things he can do to mess him up, like throwing a bunch of them around to mess up his Spider-sense, etc). JL has shown that Batman may not hurl punches like Superman/Wonder Woman, but he can hold his own against those with powers, regardless of origin, whether by brute force or by sizing his opponents up and finding ways of messing them up on the fly. He also has actual martial arts training, and Spiderman still has nerves and joints that can be messed with in ways other than "Imma punch you real hard and break a bone."

Plus he has a spray for everything; he has to have some bug spray in that utility belt, along with the shark repellant.

While that is true, finding out that somebody has a sixth sense that can make hum dodge all your punches is something very hard to tell from an opponet from one battle, and even harder to counter. Nobody in the DC universe has much of an equivelent powers that I know of, so Batman will have to improvise hard just to survive. Spiderman's uniqueness and ability to dodge literally anything you throw at him (he has dodged fully autmatic gunfire when sprayed indiscrimately, batarangs are not going to be much of a threat). Also the fact while Batman is at peak physical conditions for a human, Spiderman is several times that, able to life up to about ten tons and is much more durable then your average person.

If, however, Batman can escape is first fight, he could anaylize what ever data he has and find out how to counter everything the webslinger has within three days.

 

[PunkyMcGee]

you know what those wings on Batman's gloves are? fucking blades! in a what if wolverine easily sliced through the webbing. so could the bat.

 

[Parallel Streaks]

It depends, are we talking biological or mechanical web-shooters? If it's mechanical, Batman should be able to disable them eventually, taking a major advantage from Spidey. With prep time (or at least a fair knowledge of Spidey's capabilities), Batman would win it in my opinion.

 

[NotSoLoneWanderer]

I think batman would win

This is harder than it looks, but it really comes down to ONE thing.

Can batman disable Spideys spidey sense? If yes, then Batman wins. If no, then spiderman wins.

Batman is HIGHLY trained and extremely smart, but have no superpowers. While Spiderman is not stupid, hes FAR from Batmans intellect. Spider man however is faster and stronger and can sense danger. In a straight out fight spider man would win. If Batman can fix spider mans sense somehow, the fight turns around and Batman wins because of 100000000000000000 plans and gadgets at his disposal. He's just too smart.

spiderman doesn't have his spider senses well at least peter parker lost them but in one of the comics he died a short while ago

Let's ignore the comic book B.S and say this spiderman has unlimited webbing and all his abilities at peak condition plus an upgraded suit thanks to iron man.

 

[Gidiel167]

depends, right now spidey lost his spider-sense but gained martial arts training. So i think he could hold his own against Batman

 

[revjor]

If batman prepped up and wore the venom symbiote to nullify Spider-Man's spider sense i could see him winning. Other than that Spider-Man's spidey sense is too much of an advantage. Spidey Sense completely nullifies Batman's stealth.

Also Spidey ain't no dummy. He's one of the top minds on Marvel Earth.

 

[ShadowDude112]

First off, it's "Spider-Man" not "Spiderman". Second, it wouldn't matter. They'd both just team up in the end anyways.

 

[minuialear]

While that is true, finding out that somebody has a sixth sense that can make hum dodge all your punches is something very hard to tell from an opponet from one battle, and even harder to counter. Nobody in the DC universe has much of an equivelent powers that I know of, so Batman will have to improvise hard just to survive.

Well there are plenty of DC villains who move so fast they may as well have a sixth sense, and there are people who can use telekinesis/other means to figure out even more precise information that Spiderman can, so I don't think it'd be all that hard for Batman to notice something's up after awhile; when you break down the sixth sense thing, it's really dependent on agility, more than anything (cause obviously Spider-sense is useless if Spiderman can't react fast enough to it), so it's not like Batman couldn't think to attack that agility somehow and still get over the sixth sense thing, in one battle. Spiderman's Spidey-sense means jack if he can't move because he's too busy dodging four other things, for example.

Spiderman's sixth sense doesn't make him invincible or significantly faster, after all (putting aside those who only win against him because they drag bystanders into the mix, Spiderman does get hit a fair amount, even with Spidey-sense, so to assume a guy who deals with people who are stronger and faster than him all the time can't figure out how to slow him down isn't giving Batman enough credit on that end).

The idea of using Batarangs isn't just to throw a bunch of them and hope one of them hits; it's a distraction tactic that, combined with one or more other similar things (including some that explode and cause Spiderman to have to dodge debris as well as all those Batarangs), would allow for Batman to hit him with something stronger. Spiderman may be able to sense he'll be in a lot of danger, but even he does not have the agility to be dodging a punch to the face while he's dodging Batarangs while he's dodging explosions while he's dodging debris while he's dodging nets/whatever else Batman wants to toss at him at one particular time. Of course there are other ways of disorienting Spiderman's sixth sense (and it can be disoriented; it's not always perfect precog), and there are other tactics that could be used to overcome that and which would be even more clever.

Also the fact while Batman is at peak physical conditions for a human, Spiderman is several times that, able to life up to about ten tons and is much more durable then your average person.

Note the fact that Batman has faced villains from all major DC franchises, including some of Superman's villains, who aren't human and also are significantly stronger/more durable than normal people. Power is not what's going to push Spiderman over the top; it would be his unique spider-stuff (speed coupled with his spider-sense, the web-slinging, the clinging to walls thing), which again I don't think actually gives him a significant edge.

 

[revjor]

Batman is the guy who invented anti shark spray as well as several othe marine repellents... god only knows what other tools he has at his disposal

Spoiler

all spider-man's got is his spider sense


besides if all else fails bats can just psych him out, spider-man is practically angsty 24/7 anyway

I dunno. Batman is pretty mopey.

Imagine the constant Spider-Man pestering Batman would get if Spidey found out about Bruce's parents. Batman's angst makes Spider-Man's look like a Nickleback album

 

[WolfThomas]

Spider-man wins the first fight, Batman wins the second. Then they team up to fight the Joker and Goblin togehter.

Okay I'll show my working:
Spidey wins the first fight because of his spider-sense and his physical strength and speed, the second time Batman devises a way to jam his spider-sense, disolve his webbing and close the distance using his martial skill to beat up Spiderman.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

a full page without a "versus threads are frowned upon" post. PBTY

If the fight is planned, Batman. Batman can defeat every DC universe hero because he has plans set up in case he needs to. Therefore, he would do the same for spidey. If the fight is off the cuff, then more factors come into play.

In a bareknuckle beatdown, no gadgets, Spidey has a clear strength advantage over the Bat, but his fighting is undisciplined, and heavily relies on his web shooters. Batman is an expert in most forms of martial arts, and probably some that dont exist yet. He is supposedly as strong as an unaugmented human can be, so he will definitely be able to do some damage if he can land a hit. On the over hand, Spidey is incredibly quick on his feet, and can perform maneuvers batman can't if there are any walls and ceilings for him to run up.

Batman's gadgets beat Parker's web shooters. If we go be new continuity and give peter his mutant web wrists, spidey has the advatange insofar as batman's web-slicing batarangs will eventually run out.

Webswinging wouldnt give spiderman much of an advatange, as we see batman doing essentially the same thing with his grapple gun

Finally, if we give batman his utility belt, eventually he'll just pull his lightsaber.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW2L0dW8-90

 

[Astoria]

If Batman can avoid Spiderman's webs then he wins. Batman is just a better hand to hand fighter and Spiderman's spidey sense doesn't make him too fast to hit.

 

[deshorty]

Batman can take down Superman, Darkseid and pretty much the entire Justice League. Why is this even any question?

 

[Risingblade]

I was thinking the same thing and pretty much it would all depend on which suit Spider-Man was wearing.

Original Spidey Suit - Batman or spidey (Batman would counteract spidey's basic moves, but spiderman could be faster and punch out batman)

Venom-Spidey Suit - Batman (find someway to use sonics)

"Bionic Commando Arm" Suit - Spider-man (increased healing factor)

"Octo-Spidey" Suit - Batman (Batman would use Spidey's arms against him)

"Six-Arm Spidey" - Spider-man (Unlike the octo-arms, spidey would have more control over them)

Hulk Spider-man - Spider-man (Spider-man as strong as the hulk... 'nuff said)

Spider Carnage - Batman (See Venom-Spidey)

Spider-Phoenix - Spider-man (Spider-man with the powers of phoenix...)

Cosmic Spider-man - Spider-man (Same as Spider-Phoenix)

Civil War Spider-man Suit - Batman (It's tech, batman could possibly hack into it)

I think that is every form of Spider-man suit that Peter Parker has worn, and remember, all these may be wrong, it depends on who writes the story

This makes me want to read spiderman comics o.o

 

[Lyri]

Superman. If anyone votes for Batman they're in denial.

Batman beats Supes, thrice.

OT: Batman has destroyed people that could crush Spidey under their boots so, my vote is on the Bat.

 

[Fidelias]

Batman, easily. He's highly intelligent and doesn't rely on super-powers to win a fight. He doesn't even rely on brute strength, and even though he has a lot of gadgets, he knows how to take advantage of the environment.

Spiderman is cool, but his tactics include shooting spiderwebs, punching, kicking, and annoying insults. All of which wouldn't work on Batman.