Poll: Best sci-fi book series ever
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Seconded.LimaBravo said:
Would you mind giving mine back to me?
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I like Dune but Herbert can be a little long-winded.
HHGTTG is very good. Just because it is funny doesn't mean it isn't classic sci-fi.
Farenheit 451 is a brilliant book with a great message and Bradbury is just great in general.
The new Dune books by Herbert's son and Kevin Anderson are good reads. They are nowhere near as deep as the original series but they are still good.
Honor Harrington, by David Weber, is pretty good. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_Harrington_series]
I'm stuck between Dune and Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy
I guess I'm gonna have t go for Dune for the sheer epicness and the effect it had on the young me
Also, though I don't think Foundation was the best, I nominate Asimov for the title of best sci-fi author ever
I guess I'm gonna have t go for Dune for the sheer epicness and the effect it had on the young me
Also, though I don't think Foundation was the best, I nominate Asimov for the title of best sci-fi author ever
Therefore, HHGTTG and Discworld are sci-fi comedy. I see no reason that they should be one but not both. They have jokes, yes, but they focus on the workings of time and space, even if they don't follow modern science.LimaBravo said:It was really a back handed slap at how HHGTTG is one of my most hated fanboism's its a comedy like Red Dwarf its not actually science fiction. Fiction that is based on scientific alteration or specualtion is science fiction. Jokes about towels is humourIm the same with Pratchett hes not funny IMHO.
Also, just because you don't get the jokes doesn't mean you have the right to decide whether it's 'proper' sci-fi or not
It's a trilogy in 5 parts =Doliveira8 said:
How can you not understand that?
Please try to control yourself. I'm remaining civil and coherent, perhaps you could try the sameLimaBravo said:Well actually you qualified me. By not knowing the fucking difference between fantasy & science fiction. On what fucking planet is discworld science fiction ?ThreeWords said:Therefore, HHGTTG and Discworld are sci-fi comedy. I see no reason that they should be one but not both. They have jokes, yes, but they focus on the workings of time and space, even if they don't follow modern science.LimaBravo said:It was really a back handed slap at how HHGTTG is one of my most hated fanboism's its a comedy like Red Dwarf its not actually science fiction. Fiction that is based on scientific alteration or specualtion is science fiction. Jokes about towels is humour
Also, just because you don't get the jokes doesn't mean you have the right to decide whether it's 'proper' sci-fi or not.
Now if the fanbois are done gnawing on me like ravenous wolves and proving my point that any book that inspires such fanatical slavishness isnt funny I can go back to fucking hating them more. Thank you for validating my opinions, sometimes I need to be reminded of why I hate certain types of people.
Again IN MY OPINION YOU NAZI LITTLE PRICKS.
I fail to see how you cannot have comic science fiction. Does science fiction have to be totally serious, or is comedy for cretins, and therefore too low for the elite science fiction readers?
The Discworld may not abound with science, but it deals with the working of time and space, with the possibilities of random chance/coincidence, with the power belief and how it effects the universe, and with the wording of men's minds. Granted there are no lasers, but it is sufficiently metaphysical to be granted the title of 'science fiction' to me
After all, doesn't the word science come from 'scio' as in 'to know', and there for is intrinsically linked to knowledge. The Discword is fiction, and deals with many a kind of knowledge, an the possibilities it makes available. Thus, science fiction, no?
Enough with the insults. I'll ignore the asshole, but I'll have you know that I'm no troll, and I'm merely agreeing with someone, then arguing my side of the point.LimaBravo said:
So far in this discussion, all you have done is insult me, and made no actual attempt to disprove my points.
I assume you think that your view is right, so would you care to explain (calmly) why the Discworld cannot be sci-fi?
Interesting topic, though as a nitpick I hate the term sci-fi applied to literature. Most folks in the genre use SF, and the latter is like nails on the chalkboard. Anyway...
I don't know about confining the series to 5 books or more. If we ignore that arbitrary qualification, I say hands down the books by Karin Lowachee, beginning with Warchild: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WarchildSeries The books are strong on characterization and ambiguous morality. Originally the series was planned as 9+ books, but it's lingered on the midlist because people don't know what to make of literary SF, so right now it's only at 3 titles with the rest of the series up in the air. I sincerely hope it gets picked up again, though, because the books seriously changed the way I think about the genre. They also boast the scariest, most manipulative villain I've ever read, even compared to the father of The Brothers Karamazov.
Otherwise, if 5 books is a mandatory requirement, I'd also like to propose a series of books by Susan R. Matthews, beginning with An Exchange of Hostages. This is a great human-centric space opera with some very uncomfortable ideas about the future, centering around the military and its torture techniques. Though written over a decade ago, it's especially relevant in this day and age. And let's just say the things Andrej does to his prisoners makes waterboarding, as heinous as it is, look like a picnic. While Lowachee focuses each of her books on one specific character, Matthews' series is more of a tapestry of collected perspectives. And she doesn't take the easy way out by focusing on only good characters. In fact, it's rather hard to find good guys at all in her galaxy. Instead, she looks at motivations and emotions, and while it's far from feel-good, it is thought provoking. More people should check it out, though it's not for the faint of heart.
I don't know about confining the series to 5 books or more. If we ignore that arbitrary qualification, I say hands down the books by Karin Lowachee, beginning with Warchild: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WarchildSeries The books are strong on characterization and ambiguous morality. Originally the series was planned as 9+ books, but it's lingered on the midlist because people don't know what to make of literary SF, so right now it's only at 3 titles with the rest of the series up in the air. I sincerely hope it gets picked up again, though, because the books seriously changed the way I think about the genre. They also boast the scariest, most manipulative villain I've ever read, even compared to the father of The Brothers Karamazov.
Otherwise, if 5 books is a mandatory requirement, I'd also like to propose a series of books by Susan R. Matthews, beginning with An Exchange of Hostages. This is a great human-centric space opera with some very uncomfortable ideas about the future, centering around the military and its torture techniques. Though written over a decade ago, it's especially relevant in this day and age. And let's just say the things Andrej does to his prisoners makes waterboarding, as heinous as it is, look like a picnic. While Lowachee focuses each of her books on one specific character, Matthews' series is more of a tapestry of collected perspectives. And she doesn't take the easy way out by focusing on only good characters. In fact, it's rather hard to find good guys at all in her galaxy. Instead, she looks at motivations and emotions, and while it's far from feel-good, it is thought provoking. More people should check it out, though it's not for the faint of heart.
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LimaBravo said:Dune only the first one was any good, the rest I found boring.
What about :-
Iain M Banks Culture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_Banks
David Drakes Honor Harrington/RCN/Hammers Slammers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Drake
Fred Saberhagens Berserkers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Saberhagen
Keith Laumers Bolo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Laumer
E.E. Smiths Grey Lensman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._E._Smith
Gordon R. Dicksons Dorsai http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_R._Dickson
S.M. Stirlings Draka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M._Stirling
Wiliam Gibsons Neuromancer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Gibson
On a side note the original Star Wars book was written by Alan Dean Foster and is a different story to the film, with text like 'the blaster sucked out a searing hole in the troopers arm leaving clean ceramic carapace and nothing but cooked meat.' (Im paraphrasing he writes better than that
Theres several books arent really technically a trilogy but if HHGTTG makes it in Red Dwarf can.Viruzzo said:
Neuromancer is brilliant that gets my vote.
I know a lot of people would take your view, but I actually really liked all the books - I think book 7 was probably my favourite. And even some may think the Stephen Kingj_poley said:
including himself in the story