That's stupid. They should really change the form to asking if you've had anal sex. Plenty of straight couples have anal as well, but nobody seems to even think to check them.The Almighty Grigard said:It's not the male/male sex. It's the unprotected anal sex with the hilariously dangerous levels of blood contact. If they changed their policy to "wait 18 months after anal sex" I would be perfectly happy with that. Or even "Wait X months after male/male anal sex" I would have been satisfied. Their policy strictly states ANY sexual contact EVER between men means prohibited for LIFE. No mention of what you actually DID with your partner or how long ago it was. There are some really specific examples regarding straight sex like "You had sex with a person that has been at risk of infection for blood borne diseases and there was a risk that you had blood contact with that person... Wait 12 months." "Touched a mans penis? GET THE FUCK OUT HOMO!"
Sorry but again you are misinformed. It is the male-to-male intercourse that is the problem. I won't try to point to a specific reason (since there are many) but HIV as well as other STDs is much more prevalent among the male homosexual community. For a heterosexual men to engage in risky sex (anal sex included) with a heterosexual female the risk of infection is still several times lower than male-to-male interactions. Keep in mind that the only way to be 100% sure you will not take any infected blood is by not taking any blood whatsoever. But this isn't realistic so they cut off the group with the highest chance of infection.The Almighty Grigard said:It's not the male/male sex. It's the unprotected anal sex with the hilariously dangerous levels of blood contact. If they changed their policy to "wait 18 months after anal sex" I would be perfectly happy with that. Or even "Wait X months after male/male anal sex" I would have been satisfied. Their policy strictly states ANY sexual contact EVER between men means prohibited for LIFE. No mention of what you actually DID with your partner or how long ago it was. There are some really specific examples regarding straight sex like "You had sex with a person that has been at risk of infection for blood borne diseases and there was a risk that you had blood contact with that person... Wait 12 months." "Touched a mans penis? GET THE FUCK OUT HOMO!"icaritos said:Now now don't get unnecessarily hateful here. The chance of acquiring AIDS from male-to-male intercourse is several orders of magnitude higher than for any other demographic (if I remember correctly, around 46 times higher). Now this wouldn't be a problem with blood testing except for the fact that there is a 2 months period (after infection) in which HIV cannot be detected. So there is a reason why it tends to be rejected (though the life ban is silly, should be around 12 to 18 months to guarantee no approximate infection).The Almighty Grigard said:Nah, It's not the "gay blood" that is the problem. It is the "risk of infection". They blatantly disregard safety precautions, roles of either partner and what you actually did. But they do issue a blanket statement. "If you are male and have had a sexual encounter with another male you are not allowed to donate blood." Just like that. Nevermind that they test every single bag of donated blood with nearly perfect accuracy. Sure, let some poor 0negative bastard bleed out because of a 0,00001% chance. Makes sense!Bhaalspawn said:I bet they're afraid that "gay blood" will "infect" patients and turn them gay. Which kinda makes me laugh just a little bit...thaluikhain said:Yeah, we have that in Australia as well, or rather a 12 month ban after having male/male sex, because anal sex increases risk of infection for the person whose anus it is. Nothing about male/female anal sex, of course, nor what role the person played in male/male sex.The Almighty Grigard said:Huh I have a tragic little story about this little thing. See I am blood type 0 Rh negative. Which basically means I could give more or less anyone. I have no blood carried diseases or anything as well. I have never even tried drugs or tobacco, so I haven't ever been at risk of an infected needle. I could go on forever detailing the very good reasons why our hospitals would love to get their hands on my blood. I want to donate blood to help people.
But there's one problem. Because of one tiny tiny thing they absolutely refuse to even draw and test my blood, no discussion or argument, just fuck right off and never come back. Because I am male attracted to other males.
I'm not shitting you.
OT: I donate blood whenever I'm permitted to. The minimum time has been changing frequently over the last couple of years. And being AB-, they never seem to have much of it.
You have to fill out a form. If I would lie then I would be breaking the law. (breaking the law)Zhukov said:Wait... did they actually ask if you were gay during testing or something?The Almighty Grigard said:snip
If you were really eager to donate, couldn't you just go to a clinic where they don't know you?
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OT: I should and I probably would. However I won't because I will have completely forgotten about it within half an hour of making this post.
Come to think of it, I don't even know my blood type.
I'm not really interested in doing that.
I haven't actually gone and gotten checked by them but I read the quick guide on their website that gives you rough advice on when it's time to go an donate. On the page about sexlife it says in plain text. "[If you] Are male and have [ever] had sexual contact with another man. You can not donate blood." Plain and simple. I've also read in the local newspaper of perfectly healty would be donors not even being allowed to fill out the form, because their same sex boyfriend came with them and they casually mentioned that they were in a relationship.
http://geblod.nu/bli-blodgivare/kan-du-ge-blod/
Google translate is your friend.
Edit:
I just found something even more hilariously outdated borderline racist.
Stämmer detta på dig?
Då är chansen stor att du kan bli blodgivare.
* Är 18-60 år (18-60 years old)
* Är frisk (are healty)
* Väger minst 50 kilo (weighs at least 50 kilos]
* Har giltig ID-handling (have a valid ID)
* Förstår och talar svenska (understand and speak swedish)
* Har svenskt personnummer
The fuck? So if a perfectly healthy newly moved in German, that has been made a proper Swedish citizen, wants to donate blood, he is not allowed because he hasn't learned Swedish yet? What kind of bullshit is that?
Pretty much this. Even reading everyone's posts is making my palms sweaty >.<DeanoTheGod said:I am a total needle-phobe! I get so scared of needles a simple blood test can cause me to nearly pass out, giving a pint would surely make me pass out, and mess up my blood pressure! Even the thought of it is making me feel faint and queezy!
I was donating bone marrow since before it was cool! Seriously '05, those horkin' big hip bone needle hurt like a B***H!SonicWaffle said:Agreed. These days, all the cool kids are into donating bone marrow, at least until the ordinary lamers catch on and we have to find other body parts to give away.
I didn't know that you had to state your sexuality to complete strangers.TKretts3 said:No, I won't donate blood anytime soon.
It's because The Canadian Blood Service say that since I'm gay, even though I've never had sex before, I automatically have HIV/AIDS and want to infect people with my blood, so they ban me.
It's one of very few cases where you do have to answer, gay males are labelled as high risk for HIV. Honestly the numbers back it up to some degree, gay males have a much higher risk than straight couples who have a higher risk than gay female couples but it's a bit of a silly system. As far as I know they ask if you're a practicing homosexual, meaning people who haven't had sex don't count as high risk but still.scw55 said:I didn't know that you had to state your sexuality to complete strangers.