Like my pappy used to tell me 'fore he got sent to prison, "Some people just need killin." And dem somsabitches needs killin. Yup.
That sucks. I know. All my family members, including me were strictky disciplined. My parents only beat me once, but yelled at me hundresds of times, but i know this kid thats an annoying son of a ***** sometimes. He wasnt disciplined and he has a soccer mom. when he finds out about a song i like he starts singing it in a retard voice just to piss me off. I never broke his nose because im a pacifist and dont believe in violence. But one day, he was headbutting me in the stomach repeatedly,i was standing against the wall and I tell him "youre gonna get hurt". he totally ignores me. so when the next one was coming, I dodged it and the ************ slamed his head into the wall. he was injured on the forehead and almost broke his skull. of course, it was all blamed on me, but I DIDNT CARE.TMAN10112 post=18.69036.648873 said:I got 2 little brothers, joe(12) and vinny(3). Joe is an obnoxious, annoying bastard who barly respects our parents, annoys me to the point of me having to make a choice between breaking his stuff or his skull, and he watchs spongebob almost every day which annoys me because our computor is in the same room as the TV and it really gets annoying to lisen to(he's even watching it right now!). Vinny isn't that bad except that joe tells him to do things like to throw things at me or shut off the TV while in watching it, which is very frustrating because I can't hit him. The thing with joe seems to be that my parents never yelled at him loud enough. my parents never hit me but if I annoyed them enough then i would get yelled at pretty badly which at the time scared me. for example when we were all driving to my grandparents house and I wouldn't stop saying "I don't want to go to grandma's house" over and over agian until my dad finaly stoped the car got out, pulled me out and yelled into my face "say it one more god damned time and im gona leave you here!!!". needless to say that I never complained about going anywhere with them agian. Though aparently nothing like this happened to my little brother because we all just learned to live with him being a jackass for most of the day. also one of the things that really piss me off about him is that he WILL NOT answer the phone unless it is someone he wants to talk to, and even if he is the only person in the room he will just let it ring and yell for me to get it no matter what im doing.
Couldn't have put it better myself.Yassen post=18.69036.648064 said:All i can say is that it's a combination of all three. The way a kid reacts to the parents treatment of them is different for each person is different, plus their own personal experiences also shape their personalities.
The fact is, you can't just point the finger at any one person.
My girlfriend was hit as a kid... And she is NOT a happy person currently, because of that...Drmortuss post=18.69036.649624 said:I am damn glad I was hit as a kid.
Get the paddleasinann post=18.69036.648059 said:Brats are a direct result of failure to beat the fear of mommy/daddy into the child.
I didn't mean punishing the child if they did something wrong, like in the case of an accident, but if the kid had been disrespestful to people or had purposefully broke the thing, also i don't resent how i was raised, specially when i look around at some of the people i know, compared to them i'm a saint and i have my parents to thank for that.GothmogII post=18.69036.648441 said:I often wonder if that's less an attitude, or more of a kind of secret resentment as to how you yourself were treated. Much like the oft spoken: I had to walk five miles in the pouring rain to get to school.Reaperman Wompa post=18.69036.648111 said:Look up Maddox mission/ The best page in the universe on the best parenting method.
I blame parents, i'm respectful and in general polite to all people because i was raised properly (i act up i get smacked in the back of the head/boot up the arse) only way to raise kids or they become disrespectful little shits.
I know heaps of kids who have please don't do that parents and they are all fucked up little c^nts, compared to the kids who parents didn't take shit who are well adjusted and hard working.
Read some of the earlier posts, i do think the child changes themselves into dickheads but only when the parents are over/under strict and the child/ren either ignore or take advantage of their parents.
This being said if you raise a kid right they might f^ck up their lives but there's less chance of it happening.
After all, because I had it tough as a kid, -of course- my children should know the pain I went through . That'll teach em'
That said. Fear and violence have been shown to be reasonably effective tools of control, although, not my own first choice personally. And eventually, it just turns into resentment, especially if no explanation is given as to -why- the child is being punished. If you feel the need to disipline your child this way, then at the very least make them understand why.
Second...on the notion of bringing anger to the table. It helps neither party. And more often then not is wasted anger. Example: Let's say a child is reaching up to the counter for a glass (old enough that they can already use it of course) and drops it, smashing it. Upon hearing this, the parent yells at the child, slaps them hard on the hand and sends them to their room. Now, what is the lesson here? That all mistakes no matter how minor are wrong, and an intentional thing on the part of the child to cause trouble? And further, this has upset the parent too, although one may wonder exactly -why- the parent would react this way to a broken glass, which under any other circumstance would be mild annoyance (presumably).
And, that example above I've seen many many times, both from my own point of view, seeing it happen to my siblings, and in other families. Always, minor things like that.
My god, I hope that show is real. If it isn't I'll have to convince the brats that it is so they'll go over there anyway.Random argument man post=18.69036.649314 said:To the Super Sweet 16 thing, they actually making a show called Super Sweet 16 exile.
The parents of the spoiled brats are sending them in some third world country with no support except the villagers over there.
Thank you sir, you read my mind. One more reason why my home will NOT be so ridiculously hygienicly clean when I have children, and they will get licked in the face by the dog.Xiado post=18.69036.648707 said:Don't be a fool and buy into that suburban bullshit. Humans have strong willpower and an instance of pain will teach a child well. It is what the evolutionary instance of learning is about: Something gives you pain- don't do it. Sheltering a child is almost the worst thing for a parent to do and it is why our society is so messed up.GamerDude123 post=18.69036.648663 said:Okay that post was disturbing. for one your daughter could have been killed and two pain and fear is what disfigure/kill them MENTALLY. So if you let your daughter do that stuff pally, get ready to pay for funeral. All of you if you have kids punish them by taking away tv and computer permission. Trust me I came home with some bad grades and I wasn't allowed to go on the computer or my ps2 for a month. hek yeah i paid more attention in school. and if their little kids have a "naughty" chair or somthingasinann post=18.69036.648517 said:Who said anything about beating them when angry? I'm all for randomly smacking them and just saying "I know what you did."
Seriously, you only hit them when they do something wrong that NEEDS to be corrected. You don't hit them for spilling milk unless they stand there with the container pouring it on the floor. You don't beat them for wrecking the car, you beat them for drinking and driving.
And I believe in the let them learn themselves as long as it won't disfigure/kill them school.
My kid was playing by the electrical socket, I pulled her hand away 3 times saying "no, that will hurt you" then stopped trying to stop her. She got zapped and won't go near a light socket any more. Pain and fear are great learning tools for children until they learn how to reason. Once they learn how to reason the beatings usually stop working and you actually have to explain things to them.