True dat. Of course, there are plenty of disturbed drivers in Columbus, people who shouldn't be on the road due to the risk to others, but they get to drive anyway. That's where I'm from, btw, Columbus.-Samurai- said:
Poll: Buying games for teenagers
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Freedom of choice! Screw age moderation!!!
Seriously though, I'm 15 meaning I can't legally buy M rated games. Which really sucks, because I'm far more responsible and mature than many adults I know. Not only this but my parents have no problem with it nor have they since I was about 12. Still game store occasionally deny me on the grounds that I need to be at least 17. I hate it.
So good for you, you helped some kids that just wanted to play a game.
Seriously though, I'm 15 meaning I can't legally buy M rated games. Which really sucks, because I'm far more responsible and mature than many adults I know. Not only this but my parents have no problem with it nor have they since I was about 12. Still game store occasionally deny me on the grounds that I need to be at least 17. I hate it.
So good for you, you helped some kids that just wanted to play a game.
If it was something like Halo (where I'm convinced the M rating was just set as a selling point considering I have T rated games that are more violent and have worse language) then I might. Or if they were my friends I do it, but random people, probably not.
Except video games don't kill people. There isn't even a comparison between a game and a gun or drugs. As far as pornography, I'm sure he gets that for free(if hes even interested in it). Internet and all.
Nice city. I was there a few weeks ago for Rock on the Range.300lb. Samoan said:
As I said multiple times, I wouldn't buy alcohol or tobacco for children because it causes bodily harm. The same accordingly goes for guns. I was looking for a wide range of views but WOW - you're on a game site, equating the purchase a game with the purchase of a firearm? That's pretty radical!
Also, it's not a matter of the parent being at the child's side every waking minute. All they have to do is check in every so often (as is also recommended with television viewing) and when they see a game on screen that they don't recognize, they ask what the kid's playing and ask to see the package. Then they see that it's a mature game, and they take it away. Anyone who fusses about that being too much effort is someone who is not committed enough to their parental responsibilities. To flip the coin, that's like saying "well how am I supposed to keep alcohol in the house? I can't watch the child EVERY SECOND to make sure they aren't drinking!" It's as if people don't keep cupboards with locks on them. With any sort of media intake, it should be understood that as a parent you need to be in touch with what your children involve themselves with - watch over them with Draconian authority, rather than Orwellian omnipotence.
Wrong? Well, yeah, technically you broke the law, which is bad. I get upset personally when there's some douche bag 14 year old going on about how awesome he is at [insert M-rated game here] and how everyone else sucks and eats dick and how he's sleeping with my mother ect. There's violence and naughty language and sexual situations in video games, not as much as television or movies, but hey, they're in video games too. These are "mature" thingies and parents that buy their pre-teen Grand Theft Auto it gives more fuel to the argument that video games make people jerks, I mean violent. It's just a game, it's not like it won't exist when they turn 17. If they want to smoke, see rated R movies, or have sex 'legally', then they're going to have to wait for the appropriate age. Besides, I highly doubt they had jobs and earned that money, probably given to them via parents.
If we don't follow stupid rules, then stupid people will make stupid accusations.
If we don't follow stupid rules, then stupid people will make stupid accusations.
I am 16 and have been never been id' going into anything that requires over 18.many people say that i look at least 21 but every single time i go into a game store i have to pull out my license and show them. it says im 16 but they just glance and say ok. why cant i buy a game when i can drive and have sex?and why do they even bother to look if they see im 16 and still let me buy it?
Go for it! You did nothing wrong. I used to buy stuff for underage kids all the time because I remember what it was like trying to buy alcohol and stuff when I was younger.
On a side note I did get asked for ID to buy Conflict: Denied Ops. It's an MA15+ game and I'm... 23.
On a side note I did get asked for ID to buy Conflict: Denied Ops. It's an MA15+ game and I'm... 23.
If I was in the kids position, I would have really appreciated it. Videogames don't make you murder people, so it's not the end of the world. I played "M" (or 18+, depending on where you live) since I was 12. I have yet to take a knife to anybody's abdomen.
By-the-by, your Username compliments your avatar picture quite nicely. I love Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
By-the-by, your Username compliments your avatar picture quite nicely. I love Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
To all the nay-sayers (all 15 of you), this is exactly why I put so many answers - so we can have more qualified answers. If you say "it's wrong cus it's wrong" and that's all you have to say on the matter, you fail at discussion!Angry Caterpillar said:
For those of you not willing to do the math, the composite of the answers works out to this:
61 say yes it's wrong for various reasons 1, 3, and 5
59 say no it's ok for various reasons 2, 4, and 6
6 thought it was wrong for the wrong reasons (7); and 4 think I'm not being generous enough (8).
15 people just don't have enough hours in the day to spend 30 seconds thinking deeply about their answer (9).
Total of 145 responses as of 9:35 EST
Still not your place to make that decision. Kids ask for things they shouldn't have all the time - candy, to stay up late, M-rated games, whatever. It's not your place to decide that it's ok for a child that isn't your responsibility to have any of those things, it's that child's parent or guardian. Yes, the parents ultimately should be checking what the kids are doing, but that doesn't mean you should be making their job harder. The store clerk did the right thing by not selling directly to the children in the first place. You should've done the right thing and told them you couldn't help them out. Whether or not you actually did any harm isn't the point. Just because the game is awesome, which it is, that doesn't make what you did right.300lb. Samoan said:
Yes, it's quite possible that the kids simply were trying to avoid the hassle of having to get mom or dad to come help them out. So what?
Okay, I'll explain a bit more:300lb. Samoan said:
Lying is wrong because truth can be hard to come by and must be valued. A world were people shot straight would be a better one, regardless of what they want to lie about. I simply believe that you should tell the truth, always, because that's how I was raised. The bits on not being the legal guardian and store policy are good as well, but I price lying as the big offense.
Well, I love playing video games and they obviously do too. I just wanted to help out. And I'm not saying that the awesomeness of the game or anything else makes what I did right, but it did happen anyway and does happen every day so I thought it would be constructive for everyone to voice their opinion on the issue. Now that we've talked about it I'm finding that I should have considered what this action says about myself before I carried it out, seeing as it is hurtful to the gaming community which I generally aim to support. But the same could be said for shopping at GameStop, a major proponent of second-hand sales which is said to be hurtful to the retail industry. Someone might be bold enough to come on here and say I'm a bad gamer for patronizing that store in any capacity.Susan Arendt said:
I think we in particular disagree about the decisiveness of what I did, I don't see it as making a decision beyond my personal actions. Maybe a more responsible person would jump to conclusions about what the parents' wishes were, but from my point of view I see two kids who were going to get this game any way they could, and if that was in defiance of their mom's wish then there's a more deeply rooted problem of respect and discipline that goes well beyond my involvement. But I suppose I have to admit at this point that it was wrong, because there was nothing requiring me to enable these kids - by my own logic, I could have very easily left it to the next guy.
Just because it didn't screw you up doesn't mean it won't be bad for them. Would you have given them a bottle of vodka? Or a cigarette? "I smoked one when I was 12 but I didn't get addicted so what the hell I'll hand them out freely to children" would be the same sort of attitude. It's incredibly irresponsible and frankly it was a bad decision.
Also it's not the lying that's the problem it's giving mature content to people who shouldn't have it that's wrong, which I note is conspicuously non-existent in your list of voting options... Guardian or not mature content should be restricted. Not that I want gamer-police but adults should take a bit of responsibility and not blithely hand over inappropriate material because it's "awesome". It's not a question of law its a question of morals.
Also it's not the lying that's the problem it's giving mature content to people who shouldn't have it that's wrong, which I note is conspicuously non-existent in your list of voting options... Guardian or not mature content should be restricted. Not that I want gamer-police but adults should take a bit of responsibility and not blithely hand over inappropriate material because it's "awesome". It's not a question of law its a question of morals.
Thanks - I didn't mean to imply that your post wasn't substantial enough, but there was someone else who literally said only "I said number 1" and I thought, for real? That's all you got to say about it? Boring! Honesty is to me one of our rarest and most valuable virtues these days, and I hate to say it but I've lost touch with a great deal of the virtue I once had.Angry Caterpillar said:
No problem, I tend to have a problem with doing short answers instead of fleshing out my ideas, so I guess I ought to work on that. I wouldn't be caught dead doing that, though, that's what the damn poll is for.300lb. Samoan said: