ZiggyE said:
thirion1850 said:
Spend your money on something else. This WoW is the same WoW that came out 6 years ago. It's old, stale, grindtastic and has a community full
You're kidding, right? Kidding, or you haven't played it recently and claim too. Even people who hate WoW have to admit that it has changed dramatically over the years. It's a constant changing universe.
Also, OP, if you want to and can afford to, go for it. But the sale only lasts for five days or so.
If it answers your question - I quit about 5 months ago. I was also maining an RP realm with a strong cling on PvP, PvE and RP. So... nope! Nothing changed, still the usual high-school-like regime of attention whores.
So you haven't played Cataclysm, then? So your knowledge isn't up to date? Do you admit that?
I don't need to, but yes, it's very much up to date. I saw the changes, I saw the new mechanics, instances and artwork. I also assume that my years of play-time add up to said experience. So... yeah, I do admit knowing what's going on and that point 1 is answered.
No - I believe it's called a -reskin-. A -remake-, an addition/expansion/homage/adoring
Uhh... wrong. It has been remade. Not reskinned. Well, it has been reskinned too, but it has also been remade. About.. what was it, 50% of content, not maps, but quests, talent trees, specs have been removed and replaced. That is something being remade. With original content if I do say so myself.
It can be remade as much as it wants to be, and it will still be World of Warcraft with as many slap-on titles as it wants to be. (Still waiting on WoW: the return of Hogger.) Valve remade Counter Strike 3 times, I think, so there's an example to base your things on - it reskinned, updated graphics, slightly changed gameplay and packed in some maps. Chaching - new game!
Now, you also contradict your own point by saying that, -yes-, it's been reskinned. So my point stands that a tank that has been -repainted- is not a new tank. It still turns its stuff and fires off its shells. Not to mention, only -50%- of that tank has been repainted. So this isn't even a good paint job to begin with.
Next: talent tree's have been -cut down- because Blizz is lazy, quests are your same ol' thing, only with more ingame cinematics, mobs.. well, refer to the whole 'reskin' thing, and land has been updated up to Northrend level graphics. And finaly, original content in an already made game is called what Blizzard called it wisely - an -expansion pack-.
Now that I think about it, Extra Credits recently released an episode concerning this.
Escapist has also released a few videos detailing the changes, why don't you check them out? Also, in that video WoW was mentioned... once? As an example?
Not interested. I've seen all this bruhaha already on the Cata website, and to be honest, as said before in my previous points - it's not making me jizz my self. The gameplay vids? The quests? The new Paladins and such? Yeah. Looks eerily familiar.
Yes, also, WoW -was- mentioned indirectly. Rather, MMO's and anything else with RPG elements in them as a whole - so I reckon it applies to your precious money sink. Watch it again, several times, and you just might see it. That is, if you listen to what the episode actually has to say without automatically going "Nope, untrue."
Then again, I think I'm asking too much, here. Thinking, on the interwebz. Hur hur.
Rather a fanboy, who is proud to have enjoyed something, than a hater. I can understand if it isn't your thing, but that doesn't give you the right to discourage others who could possibly enjoy it. At least some of the people here who don't enjoy WoW told him about the free trial.
Guess it's not done 'till the fat lady sings. *sigh~*
I'll put it this way - haters and fanboys are both terms made up from the same groups, so labeling someone who is criticizing what you like a -hater-, is a -fanboy- term for not being capable of accepting said criticizm without realizing that they are -not- enjoying something they (in this case) put -years- into. This may not be the case with you - but god knows, you cannot accept that WoW is -not- by all means a gift of heavens. Shock news, however, it isn't.
However, I will be nice enough to say that - yes, I enjoyed WoW at one point. Back when it was new, shiny, and gorgeous. And the world seemed vast and interesting. And everyone wasn't licking other's shoes for gear/attention/what-have-you. When everyone actually -could- be a unique little snowflake, and doing something mattered instead of wearing the same fridge while beating your face against the same Ony every other night while Blizz desperately tries to say "Oh, hey, this is new content! Wohoo!"
But novelty does something said -fanboys- that I accused you of being do not want to accept. It -wears off-. It's not new anymore, it never will be again. And as it stands, like with Lich King, within a year, everyone will pass through the content, and everyone will be a Worgen wearing a fridge corset with swords the sizes of their ego's wildest dreams.
I will also proceed to point out your own failure to realize that this topic has -two- sides of the story and that I can discourage anyone I feel like. And that you won't get world's first. *snicker*
And I will finish this beating by saying that, I too encouraged the free trial, for him to dig into. But not the game. Lord knows, try something else that doesn't smell of old, wearied down, sweaty... stuff.