Poll: Can a game ever make you say "This game should not exist"?

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Fox12

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WhiteNachos said:
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someguy1231 said:
With all the recent controversy over games like Hatred, has any game ever so repulsed or offended you that you think it should not exist?

No matter how offended or disgusted I may be by a game, I'll never think that it should never have been made. Who am I to decide what is "acceptable" or not in a game, after all?
A consumer. There's nothing wrong with speaking out against a game. Heck, there's nothing wrong with boycotting or petitioning a game.

In fact, there are several types of games that I think should be legally banned. Custers Revenge, and Rape Lay, are two good examples. The second features the rape of an underage girl. Once you start crossing over into things like rape and child pornography, I lose all sympathy.
Won't somebody please think of the fictional children!!

Do you have the same feelings towards murder in games? If not, why?

My opinion is once we start banning things as being too heinous to do in fiction we've crossed a much worse line. I mean seriously you want to arrest people because they made a drawing (or pixels in this case)?
A game where the players objective is to rape an underage child? For the sexual gratification of the player? Sure. Child pornography doesn't fly elsewhere. Why should it fly here?

As for violence, it can be justified. There are times where it's necessary. It's also far more prevalent. Under what circumstances is child rape justified? None whatsoever.
 

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MrOmen said:
but a game only about killing them and having graphic sex with the corpse? Try telling me that should exist.
Try telling me why it should NOT exist. It's literally doing no harm to anyone.
 

SquallTheBlade

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Fox12 said:
WhiteNachos said:
Fox12 said:
someguy1231 said:
With all the recent controversy over games like Hatred, has any game ever so repulsed or offended you that you think it should not exist?

No matter how offended or disgusted I may be by a game, I'll never think that it should never have been made. Who am I to decide what is "acceptable" or not in a game, after all?
A consumer. There's nothing wrong with speaking out against a game. Heck, there's nothing wrong with boycotting or petitioning a game.

In fact, there are several types of games that I think should be legally banned. Custers Revenge, and Rape Lay, are two good examples. The second features the rape of an underage girl. Once you start crossing over into things like rape and child pornography, I lose all sympathy.
Won't somebody please think of the fictional children!!

Do you have the same feelings towards murder in games? If not, why?

My opinion is once we start banning things as being too heinous to do in fiction we've crossed a much worse line. I mean seriously you want to arrest people because they made a drawing (or pixels in this case)?
A game where the players objective is to rape an underage child? For the sexual gratification of the player? Sure. Child pornography doesn't fly elsewhere. Why should it fly here?
You forgot the word "fictional" in your statement.

As for violence, it can be justified. There are times where it's necessary. It's also far more prevalent. Under what circumstances is child rape justified? None whatsoever.
Yet people can go to unjustified killing sprees in games and no one cares. And no one should. If it's okay to do one immoral thing in fiction(like murder) then it should be okay to do any kind of immoral act. In the end, no one is harmed so why shouldn't it be okay?
 

MrOmen

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SquallTheBlade said:
MrOmen said:
but a game only about killing them and having graphic sex with the corpse? Try telling me that should exist.
Try telling me why it should NOT exist. It's literally doing no harm to anyone.
I mean a game that is only about that, like a snuff simulator or something similar. Why SHOULD it exist?
 

SquallTheBlade

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MrOmen said:
SquallTheBlade said:
MrOmen said:
but a game only about killing them and having graphic sex with the corpse? Try telling me that should exist.
Try telling me why it should NOT exist. It's literally doing no harm to anyone.
I mean a game that is only about that, like a snuff simulator or something similar. Why SHOULD it exist?
Because someone wanted to make it for whatever reason.

I could make the shittiest drawing ever which couldn't offer anything to anyone but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. I wanted to make it and that's reason enough.
 

Someone Depressing

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I refuse to believe that Clock Tower 3 exists. Nope. It doesn't. It just doesn't.

If there is a game about a creepily sexualised 14-year-old being a fucking idiot looking for her dead mum with her Ron Weasley sidekick, it's not Clock Tower 3.

Because, say it with me, Clock Tower 3 does not exist.
 

SecondPrize

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No, but I'm not very authoritariany. Other people are allowed to enjoy something I don't like. Suckers will always get taken by something, so It doesn't matter if game X is a scam because they were never going to hold on to their money in the end.
 

MrOmen

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SquallTheBlade said:
MrOmen said:
SquallTheBlade said:
MrOmen said:
but a game only about killing them and having graphic sex with the corpse? Try telling me that should exist.
Try telling me why it should NOT exist. It's literally doing no harm to anyone.
I mean a game that is only about that, like a snuff simulator or something similar. Why SHOULD it exist?
Because someone wanted to make it for whatever reason.

I could make the shittiest drawing ever which couldn't offer anything to anyone but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. I wanted to make it and that's reason enough.
I should remember that if I want to make a drawing of a naked Duke Nukem holding Anita Sarkeesian's severed head while eating a puppy...
 

TwistednMean

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People should be free to make and enjoy whatever they want, unless they infringe on someone else's rights. There is no such right in any constitution that a person must not be offended. It is not for anyone else to decide how to exercise their rights and liberties.

Laws aside, I would not stand to have anyone decide what sort of art should and should not exist. It is a consumer's choice what to enjoy and what not to enjoy and like any other it is personal. So no matter what an individual thinks or even what the majority thinks, if the game doesn't hurt anyone in real life (keyword "hurt" not "offend") no one has the right to deny it existence.
 

Cid Silverwing

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Yes.

Hatred is exactly that, plus every single shovelware that gets shat onto Steam Early Access and basically every other bad game ever made. Like Hong Kong '97.
 

Fox12

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SquallTheBlade said:
Fox12 said:
WhiteNachos said:
Fox12 said:
someguy1231 said:
With all the recent controversy over games like Hatred, has any game ever so repulsed or offended you that you think it should not exist?

No matter how offended or disgusted I may be by a game, I'll never think that it should never have been made. Who am I to decide what is "acceptable" or not in a game, after all?
A consumer. There's nothing wrong with speaking out against a game. Heck, there's nothing wrong with boycotting or petitioning a game.

In fact, there are several types of games that I think should be legally banned. Custers Revenge, and Rape Lay, are two good examples. The second features the rape of an underage girl. Once you start crossing over into things like rape and child pornography, I lose all sympathy.
Won't somebody please think of the fictional children!!

Do you have the same feelings towards murder in games? If not, why?

My opinion is once we start banning things as being too heinous to do in fiction we've crossed a much worse line. I mean seriously you want to arrest people because they made a drawing (or pixels in this case)?
A game where the players objective is to rape an underage child? For the sexual gratification of the player? Sure. Child pornography doesn't fly elsewhere. Why should it fly here?
You forgot the word "fictional" in your statement.

As for violence, it can be justified. There are times where it's necessary. It's also far more prevalent. Under what circumstances is child rape justified? None whatsoever.
Yet people can go to unjustified killing sprees in games and no one cares. And no one should. If it's okay to do one immoral thing in fiction(like murder) then it should be okay to do any kind of immoral act. In the end, no one is harmed so why shouldn't it be okay?
I didn't forget anything. It just doesn't matter. It's a fetish game where you rape a child. It's not legally or morally acceptable to have child pornography. It's unethical, and adds nothing to art or culture. So why should this be granted an exception?

I get a GG vibe from this thread. You're not defending free speech, you're just defending child porn.
 

Ronald Nand

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Wow, just read about 'Rapeplay', that makes me so disappointed in humanity.

While I wish that games like Rapeplay or Hatred wouldn't need to exist because there's no one in the world screwed up enough to enjoy that kind of game, I'm not going to cry censorship because that's a slippery slope. As long as empirical proof exists that proves that these games don't encourage rape and mass murder respectively, I will be grudgingly accept their presence in the name of preserving free speech and thought.

But there is a productive use of these games perhaps, maybe the Government should keep a track on anyone whom plays them for more than 2 hours, and one day have a purge where anyone on the blacklist is killed in one glorious purge! (only joking of course...).
 

Riddle78

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One already did. Supreme Commander 2. All it did was try to ape Command & Conquer and StarCraft,using Supreme Commander trappings. It's a disgusting Frankenstein that should not exist; It has no idea what it's trying to be.

Can you believe that,in a game where having a proper navy is critical on maps with water,that one of the game's three factions cannot build a single fucking boat!?
 

4Aces

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Absolutely, yes. There are many that qualify as theft based on false advertising, and early access are prime among these. The Order: 1866 would also be near the top of the list. Paying $60 for a CG movie calling itself a game is a crime.
 

Sight Unseen

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Unless the game somehow allows you to break real world laws while playing it, I think it has every right to exist no mater how tasteless. Just don't play it if you don't like it.
 

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Fox12 said:
SquallTheBlade said:
Fox12 said:
WhiteNachos said:
Fox12 said:
someguy1231 said:
With all the recent controversy over games like Hatred, has any game ever so repulsed or offended you that you think it should not exist?

No matter how offended or disgusted I may be by a game, I'll never think that it should never have been made. Who am I to decide what is "acceptable" or not in a game, after all?
A consumer. There's nothing wrong with speaking out against a game. Heck, there's nothing wrong with boycotting or petitioning a game.

In fact, there are several types of games that I think should be legally banned. Custers Revenge, and Rape Lay, are two good examples. The second features the rape of an underage girl. Once you start crossing over into things like rape and child pornography, I lose all sympathy.
Won't somebody please think of the fictional children!!

Do you have the same feelings towards murder in games? If not, why?

My opinion is once we start banning things as being too heinous to do in fiction we've crossed a much worse line. I mean seriously you want to arrest people because they made a drawing (or pixels in this case)?
A game where the players objective is to rape an underage child? For the sexual gratification of the player? Sure. Child pornography doesn't fly elsewhere. Why should it fly here?
You forgot the word "fictional" in your statement.

As for violence, it can be justified. There are times where it's necessary. It's also far more prevalent. Under what circumstances is child rape justified? None whatsoever.
Yet people can go to unjustified killing sprees in games and no one cares. And no one should. If it's okay to do one immoral thing in fiction(like murder) then it should be okay to do any kind of immoral act. In the end, no one is harmed so why shouldn't it be okay?
I didn't forget anything. It just doesn't matter. It's a fetish game where you rape a child. It's not legally or morally acceptable to have child pornography. It's unethical, and adds nothing to art or culture. So why should this be granted an exception?

I get a GG vibe from this thread. You're not defending free speech, you're just defending child porn.
Murdering people like what is featured in GTA5 fits all the requirements you've laid out for why we should ban games like rapelay, just switch out rape with what ever else someone finds immoral and unlawful. I hate to tell you this but it's next to impossible to reason out why a certain thing should be banned other then you personally dislike and are offended by the content, not that that's an terrible reason, but it's pretty easy to ban other things as well using that logic.
 

someguy1231

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Fox12 said:
It's unethical, and adds nothing to art or culture. So why should this be granted an exception?
But who decides whether something is "ethical" or "adds to art or culture"? Why must an artistic/literary creation "add to art or culture" to justify its existence? Doesn't it already do that by its mere existence?

I'm not asking for an "exception". I'm asking for there to be no need for an "exception" in the first place, because your rule is a bunch of BS.

People like you are exactly why I made this thread.
 

SquallTheBlade

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Fox12 said:
I didn't forget anything. It just doesn't matter. It's a fetish game where you rape a child. It's not legally or morally acceptable to have child pornography. It's unethical, and adds nothing to art or culture. So why should this be granted an exception?

I get a GG vibe from this thread. You're not defending free speech, you're just defending child porn.
You know why immoral things are immoral in the first place? Murder is wrong because it harms the victim. It denies the existence of him/her. Underage sex is immoral because humans can't consent at low age so it's harmful. Stealing from others is immoral because you are taking away something from someone who has the rightful ownership of the stolen thing. Again, harming the victim.

But in fiction? This harm doesn't exist.

Also NiPah and someguy1231 addressed your post in a way that I could have too so I won't bother adding the same things again.