Poll: Can a game ever make you say "This game should not exist"?

[WhiteNachos]

With all the recent controversy over games like Hatred, has any game ever so repulsed or offended you that you think it should not exist?

No matter how offended or disgusted I may be by a game, I'll never think that it should never have been made. Who am I to decide what is "acceptable" or not in a game, after all?

A consumer. There's nothing wrong with speaking out against a game. Heck, there's nothing wrong with boycotting or petitioning a game.

In fact, there are several types of games that I think should be legally banned. Custers Revenge, and Rape Lay, are two good examples. The second features the rape of an underage girl. Once you start crossing over into things like rape and child pornography, I lose all sympathy.

Won't somebody please think of the fictional children!!

Do you have the same feelings towards murder in games? If not, why?

My opinion is once we start banning things as being too heinous to do in fiction we've crossed a much worse line. I mean seriously you want to arrest people because they made a drawing (or pixels in this case)?

A game where the players objective is to rape an underage child? For the sexual gratification of the player? Sure. Child pornography doesn't fly elsewhere. Why should it fly here?

For the same reason it's OK to murder people in a video game but not OK to murder people in real life, for the same reason we don't treat horror films like actual snuff films.

No children were harmed in the making of rapeplay, in fact there probably weren't any (actual) children involved at all. Nobody was hurt making this game or playing this game so why should it be banned?

As for violence, it can be justified. There are times where it's necessary. It's also far more prevalent. Under what circumstances is child rape justified? None whatsoever.

So if a game like say Hatred or GTA has tons of unjustified violence/murder it should be banned.

 

[WhiteNachos]

With all the recent controversy over games like Hatred, has any game ever so repulsed or offended you that you think it should not exist?

No matter how offended or disgusted I may be by a game, I'll never think that it should never have been made. Who am I to decide what is "acceptable" or not in a game, after all?

A consumer. There's nothing wrong with speaking out against a game. Heck, there's nothing wrong with boycotting or petitioning a game.

In fact, there are several types of games that I think should be legally banned. Custers Revenge, and Rape Lay, are two good examples. The second features the rape of an underage girl. Once you start crossing over into things like rape and child pornography, I lose all sympathy.

Won't somebody please think of the fictional children!!

Do you have the same feelings towards murder in games? If not, why?

My opinion is once we start banning things as being too heinous to do in fiction we've crossed a much worse line. I mean seriously you want to arrest people because they made a drawing (or pixels in this case)?

A game where the players objective is to rape an underage child? For the sexual gratification of the player? Sure. Child pornography doesn't fly elsewhere. Why should it fly here?

You forgot the word "fictional" in your statement.

As for violence, it can be justified. There are times where it's necessary. It's also far more prevalent. Under what circumstances is child rape justified? None whatsoever.

Yet people can go to unjustified killing sprees in games and no one cares. And no one should. If it's okay to do one immoral thing in fiction(like murder) then it should be okay to do any kind of immoral act. In the end, no one is harmed so why shouldn't it be okay?

I didn't forget anything. It just doesn't matter.

It matters a lot, fictional characters do not have rights, can not feel real pain, and don't need to be considered. They matter less than plants in terms of what happens to them.

It's a fetish game where you rape a child. It's not legally or morally acceptable to have child pornography.

Why is it morally unacceptable to own this game? You can't just say "it's child porn" and leave it at that, that's not an argument. I'd say it doesn't qualify as child porn but it's a pointless argument. If it does technically qualify as child porn I'd argue that fictional/virtual child porn is the one form of child porn that's not unethical to own/make. If you disagree tell me why.

It's unethical, and adds nothing to art or culture.

"Adds nothing to art or culture" is an entirely subjective statement and is frankly bullshit. I'd say it adds something. It adds something that doesn't exist before. As does everything.

I get a GG vibe from this thread. You're not defending free speech, you're just defending child porn.

You're an American and in the US they tried to ban pornographic drawings of children. You know what happened? The section of the law banning it got declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

 

[ObserverStatus]

Metroid Other M. That game needs to die in a fire tbh.

 

[Fox12]

Wow, strong defense of child porn here, a little surprised.

The legality of games like rapelay are a gray area. People have been successfully prosecuted for owning fictional images of naked children before. Others have managed to avoid prosecution. It's not a moral gray area, though. If you play such games, then frankly you are subhuman. If you defend it for the sake of free speech, then I can understand your sentiment, but I frankly couldn't care less if such games were banned.

 

[SquallTheBlade]

Wow, strong defense of child porn here, a little surprised.

The legality of games like rapelay are a gray area. People have been successfully prosecuted for owning fictional images of naked children before. Others have managed to avoid prosecution. It's not a moral gray area, though. If you play such games, then frankly you are subhuman. If you defend it for the sake of free speech, then I can understand your sentiment, but I frankly couldn't care less if such games were banned.

You aren't even giving any counter arguments anymore. Just throwing insults.

 

[Shiftygiant]

Aqua Aqua: Wetrix 2. An unplayable piece of shit that ruined my childhood and was the first game I ever played on a console.

 

[EyeReaper]

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You know, this is one thing I hate so much about the internet nowadays (not hating you, just your stance on the matter) People like to bang on and on about how everyone of every sexual interest and inclination shouldn't be prejudiced against... Except for pedophiles. They don't even get fictional porn, completely harmless to absolutely everyone simply because you don't share their fetish. Same goes for people who actually do have a rape fetish. Someone needs to check their Vanilla Privilege.

(Note: In case it isn't obvious, I am not advocating for actual rape or actual child pornography. That's super bad. However, There is literally no reason that people should be discriminated against for trying to solve their very illegal perversions through safe means.)

Ot: The only games that really shouldn't exist are about 90% of what Good Mr. Sterling, son covers over at youtube. Glitchy broken messes that are quickly shat out to make a quick buck off of unity stock assets and incompetech music

 

[Ironman126]

I'm sorry Dark Souls PC port, but a game that uses the 'Home' key as its menu button shouldn't exist.

In all fairness, they do warn you right out of the gate "THIS NEEDS A CONTROLLER/GAMEPAD! IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME!" At least, that's how I remember it.

OT: APOX. Don't know what that is? That's good. But I assure you, it does exist.

 

[Dalisclock]

There are certain games I wonder why they exist, such as the "Bus Simulator" games. That doesn't mean, however, that I think they should not exist. I think the shitty "Early Access" games that are pretty much scams to begin with don't need to exist.

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

Dragon Age 2
Beyond: Two Souls
The Witcher 2
Watch_Dogs
Remember Me
Batman: Arkham Origins
Every single Call of Duty after Modern Warfare
Every single Assassins Creed after the first one
Every single Resident Evil after the 4th one
Tomb Rider and Thief reboots
Crysis 2
Fallout 3

Yeah, there's a fuckton of games that made me say "This game should not exist"

got a slightly mixed bag there, bro. What's wrong with Witcher 2 and Fallout 3? And why does Ass Creed 1 which is a repetitive slog, get a pass but Ass Creed 2 where they improved everything and 4 (AKA Pirates Creed) don't? Also, counting Resident Evil Revelations or just the MAIN RE games?

 

[Mikeybb]

My gut reaction says yes, but on reflection I say no.

I have no doubt that someone could create a game that could get both gut reaction and post reflection opinion to agree it shouldn't exist, though I've yet to run across it in my usual game browsing.

 

[Phasmal]

Are there games I personally think shouldn't exist? Yeah.

But also I recognise those terrible games to right to exist and be terrible. So it's not something that bothers me, really.

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

"Why FO3 is bad and Bethesda should feel bad" than it's safe for my psyche.

And why does Ass Creed 1 which is a repetitive slog, get a pass but Ass Creed 2 where they improved everything

Don't you see the answer yourself in your own post? AssCreed 1 was a repetitive slog, yes. But at least it was a rather original repetitive slog at the time, and it even had an actual atmosphere and tone, and Altair is the best AssCreed protagonist BY FAR.

AssCreed 2 was more of the same fucking repetitive slog that we're already gotten tired of in the first one, but now it's and even longer and a lot more padded. And got a ton of fucking pointless glitter. Yes, everything that was "improved" is just some frosting with no purpose or usability, simply dumped all over the game. I say that as someone who got 100% of everything in original AssCreed 2 except the fucking collectibles. Bombs, poisons, traders, dresses, property, different swords and daggers, puzzles - it's like whipped cream all over a dull but edible pizza. Out of place, contributes nothing and is 60% air. And fuck Ezio. Fuck him to hell. Also - second part marks the descent of series' atmosphere and plot from both simple, mysterious and intriguing into a convoluted mess of a pseudo-conspiracy bullshit seasoned with 8th-grader philosophy. At least the architecture was sweet.

I gotta disagree on a personal level, I think the extra types of mission made Ass Creed 2 far easier to play through. I think Ass Creed 1 had a really cool setting, even a cool protagonist, but there were pretty much three things to do in each city. Ignoring how Renaissance Italy is fascinating as a time period (and they did more with it than they did Jerusalem imo), the added mission types and features (while not super neccessary) did make it a shit ton more fun.

4 has zero reasons to even be in the franchise. Also - it's not that good. Yeah, I said it. Just because YOU don't know any good pirate with good naval combat doesn't mean that Ubisoft gets a pass for making a mediocre one.

Honestly, played a couple pirate games, Ass Creed 4 is still most fun I've had doing one. To the point of me ignoring the main plot cos the combo of fun combat and awesome ship battles made the whole thing the most enjoyable AC I ever played.

>.> I kinda agree with the rest of them though.

Only the main ones. I only played 3 through 6, honestly.

Dunno if it'd be up your alley, but Revelations 1 at least played like 4 with 3's aesthetic and horror themes. Kinda hope they stick to that as a style rather than getting Michael Bay to direct.

 

[Darth Rosenberg]

No, of course not. If people want to push boundaries, or be petulant? Fine, art/entertainment isn't ever 'supposed' to be one thing - it's whatever the hell anyone wants it to be, and it wouldn't be art/culture if that wasn't the case.

There's plenty of works of entertainment/art/whatever that I find to be vile or offputting, and so I don't consume them. That's all it requires. To quote a very dead Roman: "You are not compelled to form any opinion about this matter before you, nor to disturb your peace of mind at all. Things in themselves have no power to extort a verdict from you".

'Controversies' occur usually because insecure people want to react, tpyically because anything that doesn't conform to their sensibilities or value system seems like a threat.

 

[Frankster]

One of the earliest games was about you playing Custer raping an indian lass tied to a pole.

Everything should be allowed to exist when it comes to fictional entertainment imo and I resent someone playing moral crusader and telling me otherwise.

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

Nope. There's nothing.

Anyone can make any game they like. If it's not my taste i dont play it. It's not such a complicated subject in the end.

 

[K12]

Hatred has a right to exist, it actually isn't as bad as I was expecting it to be though stil crossing the line into straight up sadism. It was very cleverly and cynically marketed to exploit the controversy dollar and get money from petty pro-gamergaters. They might as well have had "Buy this game to piss of SJWs" as their tag line.

Things like "RapeLay" and "Ethnic Cleansing" come to mind as games that shouldn't be legally banned but I think shouldn't exist and would harshly judge any store that sold them.

Also any game that's so poorly made as to be unplayable (or has been made entirely of unaltered Unity assets.)

Finally some of the more shameless "Pay to Win" games like "Dungeon Keeper Mobile" and "Final Fantasy All the Bravest".

It's not that hard to think of a hypothetical game that would be actually illegal to sell, through slander, copyright infringement, hate speech or conspiracy etc.

On a related note is it illegal to sell animated child porn? Not just hentai with suspiciously young looking girls but straight up porn with animated babies or undeniably underage infant characters? Or maybe even porn with live actors where they've been digitally de-aged to look like children?
I assume a Child porn game would fall under the same kinds of laws as these (if such laws exist). I'm perfectly happy saying that these shouldn't exist anyway but I don't know if they can actually be legally banned.