Poll: Can England be invaded
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If the entire world came against anyone nation, they would crumble. Nobody has the power to fight off the combined power of the rest of the globe.
If the entire world came against anyone nation, they would crumble. Nobody has the power to fight off the combined power of the rest of the globe.
Any country would be hard to invade provided that they have a strong military force.keyton777 said:
However Russia would most likely be the hardest due to them having decent military technology and large forces. Combine that with previously mentioned weather conditions, and it can make a for a long and tedious assault.
Once you get entrenched in Russia, you can just wait out the winter. The problem is launching assaults during in that godawful lethal cold. If you eliminate the government and take it over, then the resistance has to attack YOU. And once winter is over, you can go on the full offensive again.Zombie Badger said:
Fighting the mafia... well, I'm not convinced that would be such a big problem. The primary fear that the mafia instills that they'll go after your family (from what I understand). It's pretty damn hard to kill a soldier's family when they're on another continent. The mafia isn't suited to open warfare.
Although there are 9+ pages, I will offer my full-thought into this.Blitzkrieg8 said:
England is an island (or maybe not, but I thought it was?), therefore it would be very hard for them to get supplies in and out. All that it's enemy would have to do would be to surround them, cut off their supplies and prepare for an amphibious assault while doing bombing raids, etc. etc.
Think of it as a modern invasion of Normandy, only we're attacking England. I think that it would be very possible for England to fall if invaded. World War II, again, is a prime example of this, because the world feared that as soon as Hitler had conquered France, he would conquer England. Now, if England was as invincible as you presume, we would have all sat back and ate popcorn and drank tea while we watched Hitler try to attack England and fail. The simple answer, it is very possible, and I don't see why it would be very hard, there are so many ways you could do it.
You'd still have the problem the US faced in Vietnam, where you couldn't tell who was on your side. A civilian may walk up to you in the street and shoot you in the ribs, or blow himself and your squad up. Also, like any country, the locals know the terrain better than you, which is part of the reason why the US was defeated in Vietnam. As for the mafia, they may not be good at open warfare, but they are good at urban assassination. After a few months you'd probably have to replace your entire installed government (especially anyone who'd try to stop them) and they may take a leaf out of the Vietmihn's (The proper name for the Vietcong) book and set up a massive drugs trade selling to your soldiers, to make them too stoned to fight.UltimatheChosen said:
This is a non-question. Invading England (although I presume the OP means Great Britain) could be accomplished by - at minimum - the USA and Russia tomorrow, if they had the forces in position.
All you'd need to invade Great Britain is air superiority, a decent fleet and sufficiently large army. Air superiority would prevent the Royal Navy from deploying, that would allow ground troops to land, and again air superiority would give a vast advantage when they got there.
All you'd need to invade Great Britain is air superiority, a decent fleet and sufficiently large army. Air superiority would prevent the Royal Navy from deploying, that would allow ground troops to land, and again air superiority would give a vast advantage when they got there.
You know who the Romans couldn't invade? The Georgians. The country Georgia (country NOT state) is located south of Russia and North-East of Turkey. Great weather there.Chris B Chikin said:
I find it slightly bizarre that I'm posting in this thread at all, let alone sobre, but...
On-topic, we survived by the skin of our teeth last time, and we were much stronger and had far more allies and resources to pull on then. Even so, it was massively in our favour that Germany was fighting by that point on at least two fronts. The point is that any country can be invaded. There is nothing invulnerable about the UK, any more than there is anything invulnerable about Luxembourg.
But let's take a hypothetical invasion right now, and consider some salient points.
Consider, for example, that our foreign policy has been effectively totally spineless since the Suez Crisis.
Consider that we accepted the Marshall Plan, and are therefore tied to doing what America wants, regardless.
Consider that most of our armed forces are thousands of miles away.
Consider that after nearly seventy years of peace, the majority of the UK is slouched in front of the TV or the computer (yes, that includes you), and is effectively about as much use for repelling an invasion as a 30cm ruler.
Consider that we are drowning in debt.
Consider that our government is in its death throes, and our politics confounded.
Consider that our "nuclear deterrent" is twenty years out of date and far surpassed by those countries which have upgraded since then. And if you honestly think we'd launch... you need to watch more Yes, Prime Minister (link [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX_d_vMKswE]), and wake up and smell the delusion and tattered, long-dead glory.
Consider that our culture and our identity are stagnant and dying (and before anyone mentions anything foolish, I'd like to say I mean the likes of Tracy Emin and Stuckism).
And you honestly think we'd survive? We don't stand a snowball's chance in hell against France, let alone a major power such as the US.
Now, let's look at a different scenario, a UK in far better condition. Like that of, say, 1940. Oh, wait...
We're a fading has-been of a nation. The joke about Milwall and Liverpool fans earlier in the thread is telling in itself.
Not heard of the "Glorious Revolution" of 1688? Because if that wasn't an invasion, I'm Barbara Cartland. Unless, that is, William of Orange-Nassau was somehow magically English.Wouldukindly said:
On-topic, we survived by the skin of our teeth last time, and we were much stronger and had far more allies and resources to pull on then. Even so, it was massively in our favour that Germany was fighting by that point on at least two fronts. The point is that any country can be invaded. There is nothing invulnerable about the UK, any more than there is anything invulnerable about Luxembourg.
But let's take a hypothetical invasion right now, and consider some salient points.
Consider, for example, that our foreign policy has been effectively totally spineless since the Suez Crisis.
Consider that we accepted the Marshall Plan, and are therefore tied to doing what America wants, regardless.
Consider that most of our armed forces are thousands of miles away.
Consider that after nearly seventy years of peace, the majority of the UK is slouched in front of the TV or the computer (yes, that includes you), and is effectively about as much use for repelling an invasion as a 30cm ruler.
Consider that we are drowning in debt.
Consider that our government is in its death throes, and our politics confounded.
Consider that our "nuclear deterrent" is twenty years out of date and far surpassed by those countries which have upgraded since then. And if you honestly think we'd launch... you need to watch more Yes, Prime Minister (link [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX_d_vMKswE]), and wake up and smell the delusion and tattered, long-dead glory.
Consider that our culture and our identity are stagnant and dying (and before anyone mentions anything foolish, I'd like to say I mean the likes of Tracy Emin and Stuckism).
And you honestly think we'd survive? We don't stand a snowball's chance in hell against France, let alone a major power such as the US.
Now, let's look at a different scenario, a UK in far better condition. Like that of, say, 1940. Oh, wait...
We're a fading has-been of a nation. The joke about Milwall and Liverpool fans earlier in the thread is telling in itself.