Why are people voting that they don't think casual sex is wrong, but don't support it?
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Are there anti-sex escapists!?
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Well, coming at this from the woman's side of things, a woman who sleeps around is a "slut" in a similar way to OP's complaint. This has gotten better in recent years, but there's still a stigma to a woman who indulges in her carnal desires, typically more so than men.
I can see how OP's example might have the scent of hypocrisy to it, and I agree to an extent.
While it is true that men can impregnate lots more women than women can get pregnant by men, you're forgetting another important aspect of pregnancy. Ignoring abortion, once a woman gets pregnant, she's committing nine months of her life to BEING pregnant, whereas it's is, realistically, the man's CHOICE to stay with her. Ignoring contraception, and coming at it from that viewpoint, it is extremely inconsiderate for a man to sleep around, because he can continue to do so with little inconvenience, while the women he impregnates carry the children.
However, it is not the case in the Western world that there is an absence of safe abortive techniques or reliable contraception today.
There are a lot of cultural factors to this labeling, some of which, I'm certain, come from pop psychology. These factors should not be discounted, as it's impossible to talk about human group behavior without delving into the culture of said group. Another factor that may be applicable here is a morphing of feminism to apply standards which formerly applied to women to men.
I can see how OP's example might have the scent of hypocrisy to it, and I agree to an extent.
While it is true that men can impregnate lots more women than women can get pregnant by men, you're forgetting another important aspect of pregnancy. Ignoring abortion, once a woman gets pregnant, she's committing nine months of her life to BEING pregnant, whereas it's is, realistically, the man's CHOICE to stay with her. Ignoring contraception, and coming at it from that viewpoint, it is extremely inconsiderate for a man to sleep around, because he can continue to do so with little inconvenience, while the women he impregnates carry the children.
However, it is not the case in the Western world that there is an absence of safe abortive techniques or reliable contraception today.
There are a lot of cultural factors to this labeling, some of which, I'm certain, come from pop psychology. These factors should not be discounted, as it's impossible to talk about human group behavior without delving into the culture of said group. Another factor that may be applicable here is a morphing of feminism to apply standards which formerly applied to women to men.
Depends on the orgasm. G-spot orgasms are nice, but if a woman's first orgasm was clitoral, she might not register a G-spot orgasm as an orgasm, especially if she's not familiar with the ins and outs (no pun intended) of female sexual stimulation. Also, when orgasms are described as "I can't describe it, but when you have one, you'll know" they typically refer to clitoral orgasms. I know from personal experience, and if I could give a metaphor, g-spot orgasms are like burning coals, while clitoral orgasms are more like one of those professional fireworks.Bara_no_Hime said:
I'm LDS, and I don't think it objectifies women. Social connotations aside, there are as many women out there who just want a quick fling as there are men, so it's an equal opportunity offender.
It can certainly go both ways (giggity) but I don't think the concept on it's own objectifies anyone. On the other hand, it's certainly possible to use casual sex as a means to objectify someone (male or female)
Really though, there's nothing wrong with getting your rocks off, as long as everyone involved understands what's going on. Though personally, I've had better experiences and more fun with the long term (or long-ish term) relationship types.
If anything, I'd say that have one steady casual partner sans commitment is a lot less objectifying than random hookups and walks of shame.
Really though, there's nothing wrong with getting your rocks off, as long as everyone involved understands what's going on. Though personally, I've had better experiences and more fun with the long term (or long-ish term) relationship types.
If anything, I'd say that have one steady casual partner sans commitment is a lot less objectifying than random hookups and walks of shame.
That's because it takes serious skill for men to pick up women. It's an art form.Dags90 said:
Women on the other hand don't need that much skill. They just need to be half attractive and flaunt around at a bar and there will be AT LEAST a few men interested in sleeping with her. They don't need charm, they don't need confidence and they don't need to have charisma. A highly successful "stud" does - at least a lot more than a woman does.
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Honestly, in my experience the guys who have a lot of sex with random women don't really have a higher success rate than the guys who don't - they just try a lot more. It's more of the shotgun method than anything haha.
I don't necessarily support it, but I don't care if people do it. I also don't believe it objectifies women.
Of course there's a double standard between the way men and women both view casual sex. We're still mostly stuck in the same gender roles we have been throughout much of modern history, so a women who acts in an "un-ladylike" manner is still frowned upon. I feel like a lot of this stigma has been clearing up in more recent years, but it undoubtedly exists.
Besides, I could never do casual sex. I'm a very jealous person.
Of course there's a double standard between the way men and women both view casual sex. We're still mostly stuck in the same gender roles we have been throughout much of modern history, so a women who acts in an "un-ladylike" manner is still frowned upon. I feel like a lot of this stigma has been clearing up in more recent years, but it undoubtedly exists.
Besides, I could never do casual sex. I'm a very jealous person.
My main concern with casual sex is the risk of pregnancy and STDs. Even if you use contraception including condoms it doesn't leave you with no chance of getting an STD especially if you don't know the person. Crabs and herpes only need skin to skin contact and you don't just get them on your genitals. However, if you understand the risks involved and the the casual nature of the sexual activity then you should do whatever you want to. As for the slut thing, I thought most people only called women sluts if they have casual sex whilst in a relationship with someone else?
Well...casual sex in of itself does not, but the attitudes around casual sex certainly do.
There is an immense amount of double standards, that are so much a part of society that many people are outraged by anything that might challenge them.
There is an immense amount of double standards, that are so much a part of society that many people are outraged by anything that might challenge them.
As a woman, it does annoy me to think that if I had casual sex, I'd be seen as 'easy'. However, I think casual sex is healthy and part of being a well-adjusted human being. Of course said casual sex should still be safe and hopefully with someone you can at least trust...but yeah, overall, I see no harm in it.
What IS bad for women is expecting them to want casual sex regardless of their own feelings on it...and then calling them frigid bitches if they don't want it and then sluts if they do. XD That's a whole other can of worms though.
What IS bad for women is expecting them to want casual sex regardless of their own feelings on it...and then calling them frigid bitches if they don't want it and then sluts if they do. XD That's a whole other can of worms though.
It's not... either you have causal sex or you don't and really that's it.
Sure some people make it a big deal saying that men are studs and women are sluts, but earlier statements say that men are also equally picked on as well.
I am a true feminist when it comes to it, I believe equality all the way. Either both genders are sluts, or both are studs and not double standards.
Though personally I think everyone has a right to express their own sexuality in a way they want... whether it's through celibacy or casual sex.
Sure some people make it a big deal saying that men are studs and women are sluts, but earlier statements say that men are also equally picked on as well.
I am a true feminist when it comes to it, I believe equality all the way. Either both genders are sluts, or both are studs and not double standards.
Though personally I think everyone has a right to express their own sexuality in a way they want... whether it's through celibacy or casual sex.
If I hang out with women on the pull, they're looking at men like pieces of meat, staring, giggling, making lewd comments about what they'd "like to do to that guy".
I think people underestimate women's ability to objectify men. And if they're women looking for casual sex, surely they're doing it as much as men looking for casual sex are doing it to women?
Personally I couldn't do casual sex because I'm a bit afraid of sex and need to be with someone I know and trust to even relax. I imagine it'd be the same if I were a guy, but I couldn't know how the different biology would affect me.
I think people underestimate women's ability to objectify men. And if they're women looking for casual sex, surely they're doing it as much as men looking for casual sex are doing it to women?
Personally I couldn't do casual sex because I'm a bit afraid of sex and need to be with someone I know and trust to even relax. I imagine it'd be the same if I were a guy, but I couldn't know how the different biology would affect me.
"I don't support casual sex"? What does that even mean? That you don't like it/the idea of it? There's nothing wrong with it and how does sex objectify women? How old is the OP? I think the OP is confusing having sex with watching pr0n/thinking about sex. Seem to be getting different societal issues confused. Casual sex and "objectification" do not go together. Weird, fetish type sex you could probably make a case for.
And the word you want is concept, not conception ;-)
And the word you want is concept, not conception ;-)
Possibly because they support the idea of people having casul sex, but don't want it for themselves.NightlyNews said:
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