Poll: Console RTS >PC RTS

[Shock and Awe]

Even though I am a console centered gamer, I prefer PC controls for RTSs

 

[Chunko]

It just feels better and everything moves faster with a pc rts. I really liked halo wars, but i wouldve enjoyed it more on pc.

but those great graphics wouldn't have been possible on the PC

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Please explain that power hungry game that shines so brightly in the graphics department called Crysis then.

The PC games look better then the console games IF you have the requirements for such.

Not everyone has enough money to spend on an expensive PC

And not everyone has enough money to buy the consoles.
People seemed to think that a PC that can run the console games just as well if not better, are going to cost very high, but you can get a decent PC running high-end games for about as much as an Xbox 360 cost when it was first released.
Plus, the PC games have mods. Console games don't. I still play console games, I just prefer PC.

Most modded versions of warcraft III bored me. It would be expensive for me to buy a pc when I already have an xbox 360.

You seem to be missing the point entirely. You're basing the mods on just on game, when I'm considering all games. And it would not have been expensive if you had used the money on your PC instead of buying an Xbox. Mainly, you're only defending the xbox because it seemed simpler, and more game-oriented, so you bought it first.

In fact that's pretty much the only reason this thread exists, is because you bought the Xbox first and are poorly defending it by using really bad opinions because you don't want to admit that you're just being stupid by issuing that statement.

I don't think I made a poor decision. I spent 300 dollars on an xbox, and I get gamefly for 8$ a month. This means I can have whatever game I want. If I spent 300 dollars on a pc, I wouldn't be able to play any games and even if I could I would have to buy each for 60 dollars.

 

[FightThePower]

Nah, the control scheme is like a thousand times better on PC. Much easier to control stuff, especially setting control groups and shit like that.

 

[Ironic]

It works FINE on the console, but that's it. It's average in my opinion.

It's a lot harder to micromanage, and that's a fact, but you're right, menus do FEEL nicer with the little rotary system they have.

Combine the two in a mod?

You need a PC! This is why they're better on PC.

Also, you're just given me an awesome idea for a mod. Have a 360 controller linked, or maybe even a bastardized/hacked up one, so you can have the rotary menu brought up at any time, whilst keeping the old menu and mouse input aswell. That would be good.

 

[Pimppeter2]

They don't work better, but they don't suck as much as everybody says

 

[Necrofudge]

PC controls are way better for this type of genre. I don't care how good you are with a joystick thing, a mouse outperforms it when it comes to RTS.

 

[Fallingwater]

IMHO, playing RTS games on consoles is like wiping your privates with sandpaper. I'll stop playing RTS entirely before I play them on consoles.

 

[SlightlyEvil]

No matter what advantages the RTS control scheme has, you can't afford to lose mouse control and keyboard hotkeys.

 

[asdasdasdasda]

Playing Red Alert 3 made me want to kill a puppy. It was truly awful IMO.

Might just be that I'm so used to playing on a PC, but, eh. I just didn't like it.

And by RA2, I meant 3. Loledit.

 

[Beartrucci]

While certain Console RTS' may work very well, PC RTS games will be better because of the mouse and keyboard. If only consoles would let us use mouse and keyboard because my laptop can barely run games.

 

[BlueMage]

It just feels better and everything moves faster with a pc rts. I really liked halo wars, but i wouldve enjoyed it more on pc.

but those great graphics wouldn't have been possible on the PC

your kidding.............. PC RTS are better looking for me at least, not to mention its easier to drag-drop, or paint as you call it, you units.

its also better for zerg rushes, and when you get down to it, that's all RTS's are about, zerg your opponents into dust.

I have a Devastator Squad that would like to disagree with your assessment. The Terminator-armoured, heavy-flamer-equipped Tactical Squad share a similar disagreement

 

[Pendragon9]

Starcraft 64.

I'm just gonna let that sit in. Talk about a miserable failure there. (though it had some upsides, I don't see it winning game of the year)

I'm not gonna feed the troll or the rabid PC hounds with compliments, but the RTS is just designed around a computer with a keyboard. They're so natural together.

Forget the graphics argument, just think about the controls for a second. Do you really think a controller works better when controlling a herd of marines? What if you need to micro Wraiths or worse yet, micro vultures.

This the controller cannot do.

 

[MercenaryCanary]

I don't think I made a poor decision. I spent 300 dollars on an xbox, and I get gamefly for 8$ a month. This means I can have whatever game I want. If I spent 300 dollars on a pc, I wouldn't be able to play any games and even if I could I would have to buy each for 60 dollars.

You did make somewhat of a poor decision.
You could have spent the 300 dollars to update your PC that you are currently using.
And the games are actually cheaper for the PC. You can even pirate the majority of them if you want to be like that. In which case, you might as well say that PC gaming is free.
And with Gamefly, you don't own the game though.

 

[Chunko]

I don't think I made a poor decision. I spent 300 dollars on an xbox, and I get gamefly for 8$ a month. This means I can have whatever game I want. If I spent 300 dollars on a pc, I wouldn't be able to play any games and even if I could I would have to buy each for 60 dollars.

You did make somewhat of a poor decision.
You could have spent the 300 dollars to update your PC that you are currently using.
And the games are actually cheaper for the PC. You can even pirate the majority of them if you want to be like that. In which case, you might as well say that PC gaming is free.
And with Gamefly, you don't own the game though.

But the thing is I couldn't get gamefly on a P.C. Not to mention I need a laptop to take notes in school. I can't get too expensive of a computer then because I would run at risk of losing it. I currently have a 500$ dell laptop I bought 4 years ago. It's in no condition for gaming. If I bought an 800$ laptop instead, my gaming options would still be limited, as would my choices in games. Furthermore, in case you weren't paying attention I prefer the console controls, especially when it comes to RTS gameplay.

 

[Nouw]

PC all the way.

You cant have a keyboard or a mouse on a console thus most RTS's on Console=Fail.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

While I'm not convinced that it's impossible to make a quality RTS for a console, it has never been done as far as I'm concerned.

The problem is, quite simply, one of control. The gamepad and limited number of buttons mean that player input is going to be slowed dramatically and precision will suffer. In some games, specifically those where micromanagement isn't truly key to victory (Say a Starcraft or Command and Conquer. Micromanagement can assist in victory but often build order, resource management and base construction are more important), a gamepad can prove adequate. Most of the most revered RTS games of today however are based entirely around the idea of micromanagement. Be it using a specific squad of rangers to use their holo-field ability to cover the approach of a squad of wailing banshees in preparation for an assault on entrenched foe in Dawn of War II or managing the precise field of fire of your cannons in Empire Total War - in today's games the capacity to issue the exact order needed to a number of units at precisely the right moment is generally the difference between sucess and failure.

Traditionally, console games have attempted to overcome this lack of control by reducing the micromanagement your troops require. Often the result is having fewer unit types (Overlord 1 and 2 represents the extreme edge of this trend) with few if any special abilities and an incredibly low population count. The nearly inevitable result of these changes are a game with little strategic depth where a rock-paper-scissors strategy rules the field (End War is an excellent example). While any RTS is built upon the conept of unit strengths and weaknesses, PC games tend to provide a better balance and more interesting dynamics.

 

[Irishhoodlum]

I don't think I made a poor decision. I spent 300 dollars on an xbox, and I get gamefly for 8$ a month. This means I can have whatever game I want. If I spent 300 dollars on a pc, I wouldn't be able to play any games and even if I could I would have to buy each for 60 dollars.

You did make somewhat of a poor decision.
You could have spent the 300 dollars to update your PC that you are currently using.
And the games are actually cheaper for the PC. You can even pirate the majority of them if you want to be like that. In which case, you might as well say that PC gaming is free.
And with Gamefly, you don't own the game though.

But the thing is I couldn't get gamefly on a P.C. Not to mention I need a laptop to take notes in school. I can't get too expensive of a computer then because I would run at risk of losing it. I currently have a 500$ dell laptop I bought 4 years ago. It's in no condition for gaming. If I bought an 800$ laptop instead, my gaming options would still be limited, as would my choices in games. Furthermore, in case you weren't paying attention I prefer the console controls, especially when it comes to RTS gameplay.

Well for a gaming PC you'd need at least $600 give or take a few. Though games are almost always much cheaper on the PC. Not that either of those matter because the quality of games isn't determined by price. So what if overall RTS games cost more on the PC? Does that make them worse? No, in fact it probably makes them better since you're paying for more you're also getting more.

 

[Earthbound Engineer]

I can't really put one over the other, because they both have their fair share of good games.

P.C.- Civilization, Starcraft, Age of Empires

Console- Tom Clancy's EndWar, Red Alert, Halo Wars

And then there's the one that they both share...Command and Conquer!