Poll: "Console wars" seem a bit silly nowadays, don't they?
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this, but it even more stupid now.Radeonx said:
since in ye olden days ( EI before some of the member ship here was born, or old enough to hold a controller) it was about exclusives, and >.> bullshit marketing like 'blast processing'.
now, most the really good games are multi platform and the exclusives are meh as i see it, so it really boils down to what you want your system to do.
Console Wars have always been bullshit.
Consoles are like forks and spoons. To eat ice cream, you need a spoon. To eat spaghetti, you need a fork. The ice cream isn't good because you eat it with a spoon. It's good because you like ice cream. The same goes for spaghetti and forks. Whether you eat with with a fork or spoon, it doesn't matter compared to the food that's on the plate.
So, whenever somebody argues about consoles, think of them as arguing about forks and spoons and they'll just look really fucking silly.
If someone replies to this with a half-assed joke about sporks/chopsticks/finger foods, I will eat a dozen Christian babies.
Consoles are like forks and spoons. To eat ice cream, you need a spoon. To eat spaghetti, you need a fork. The ice cream isn't good because you eat it with a spoon. It's good because you like ice cream. The same goes for spaghetti and forks. Whether you eat with with a fork or spoon, it doesn't matter compared to the food that's on the plate.
So, whenever somebody argues about consoles, think of them as arguing about forks and spoons and they'll just look really fucking silly.
If someone replies to this with a half-assed joke about sporks/chopsticks/finger foods, I will eat a dozen Christian babies.
I don't like consoles anymore, but I look at them with respect. I'm not throwing bile at my friends for using the PS3 or the 360, or to anybody for that matter. I do belive that the PC is better in every sense, but this isn't the thread of "preach about PC gaming".
Yes, console wars have always been stupid and it may have worked in the 90's, but after the last gen's consoles, it really didn't matter, especially this generation as both the 360 and PS3 are pretty much identical, the only differences they have are exclusives and that's it.
Yes, console wars have always been stupid and it may have worked in the 90's, but after the last gen's consoles, it really didn't matter, especially this generation as both the 360 and PS3 are pretty much identical, the only differences they have are exclusives and that's it.
A bit silly nowadays?
"Console Wars" for this generation was always silly. It worked in the Sega Vs Nintendo as it was the mascots going up against each other... who now work for the Umbrella Corporation, I mean Nintendo.
People who attack other people because they have a different choice in consoles have issues that only a shrink could sort out.
"Console Wars" for this generation was always silly. It worked in the Sega Vs Nintendo as it was the mascots going up against each other... who now work for the Umbrella Corporation, I mean Nintendo.
People who attack other people because they have a different choice in consoles have issues that only a shrink could sort out.
Every debate over a piece of hardware that you didn't make or design and who's only connection to is that you bought it is stupid. People need to find better uses with their time then being dickheads over how great their lump of plastic is whether it is an X-box, PS3, Wii, or PC, or anything else.
Uhmmm... I don't consider myself a "PC elitist", but I do still like the Wii. In fact, I already said that I don't like consoles... except for the white little one that gets undermined if it's even slightly mentioned here in The Escapist, especially after some stupid review from ZP about any Wii game.megaman24681012 said:
Also, FYI, sometimes I like to connect my PC to my TV, grab my 360 controller and kick back in the sofa for a while, so yeah.
On the contrary, PC gaming can be a far better investment.Jim Sturtridge said:
Consider this. You buy an xbox 360 for 300 dollars. Then you buy an under powered, yet over priced, prebuilt computer for another 400+ (Prebuilt computers tend to have really powerful CPU's, tons of RAM but shit for graphics but cost you an assload of money). That's ~700 dollars. For the 300 it would cost for an Xbox, I could get a high end graphics card for that PC you bought that has 10 times the processing power. Not only will this PC run most games on highest settings, but it's your home computer, meaning it does everything.
Games tend to be cheaper for PC as well as digital distributors constantly reducing prices on their titles (Steam is the obvious example). There's no need for proprietary accessories or subscriptions, choice of input method for games (Not just restricted to a controller) as well as multi tasking.
Games are backwards compatible for the most part. Yes, the current consoles have SOME backwards compatibility, but it's pretty shit and it will only get worse when the next generation comes around.
Now seeing as we live in a time where a computer is pretty much necessary, this is a great investment.
And Xbox can't do much more than play games and some DVD's. Surely you have a computer as you posted this correct? Unless you do everything on a cell phone. It's part of the reason why I didn't put much money into the consoles this generation. Why have two separate devices when one will do it all for not much more money?
Now I understand that some people don't mind paying for the "Convenience", and that's perfectly fine. But as an investment, there's great value in in a powerful game PC.
[quote="Waaghpowa"On the contrary, PC gaming can be a far better investment.
buy an xbox 360 for 300 dollars.buy an under powered,over priced, prebuilt computer for another 400+ (Prebuilt computers tend to have really powerful CPU's, tons of RAM but shit for graphics but cost you an assload of money). That's ~700 dollars. For the 300 it would cost for an Xbox, I could get a high end graphics card for that PC you bought that has 10 times the processing power.]
PC games are slightly cheeper-yes
the problem is that there isn't as wide of a selection of Games for pc that many places- there is steam. get too many games and you need to invest in another hard drive
all systems require memory but consoles only require small amounts(ex- 10 games 2gb,including updates)
Xbox plays all dvds i've ever tried and ps3 plays blue ray- plus there is netflix,ect.
youre talking about $1000 investment before you even purchase a game-Xbox+10gb mem unit&wireless router is about $350-$450 spend the other $650 on actual games.
buy an xbox 360 for 300 dollars.buy an under powered,over priced, prebuilt computer for another 400+ (Prebuilt computers tend to have really powerful CPU's, tons of RAM but shit for graphics but cost you an assload of money). That's ~700 dollars. For the 300 it would cost for an Xbox, I could get a high end graphics card for that PC you bought that has 10 times the processing power.]
PC games are slightly cheeper-yes
the problem is that there isn't as wide of a selection of Games for pc that many places- there is steam. get too many games and you need to invest in another hard drive
all systems require memory but consoles only require small amounts(ex- 10 games 2gb,including updates)
Xbox plays all dvds i've ever tried and ps3 plays blue ray- plus there is netflix,ect.
youre talking about $1000 investment before you even purchase a game-Xbox+10gb mem unit&wireless router is about $350-$450 spend the other $650 on actual games.
the console wars wars were cute in the 90,s but now it,s kinda like watching kid,s make your mom jokes on the school playground followed by bragging about their new bike followed by more your mom jokes.
as a PC gamer I just observe and hope this doesn't happen at the wii2/PS4/xbox 720 launch.
I chose PC because I don't have to worry about backwards AND forwards compatibility.
also everybody knows that the Dreamcast is the best console ever!
....you probably never heard of it....
as a PC gamer I just observe and hope this doesn't happen at the wii2/PS4/xbox 720 launch.
I chose PC because I don't have to worry about backwards AND forwards compatibility.
also everybody knows that the Dreamcast is the best console ever!
....you probably never heard of it....
I think anyone who thinks their preffered media is the best and anyone elses opinions are wrong, are compleate idiots. It's immature, stupid and makes me wanna open the dictionary to 'opinion' then smack their face into it.
I agree with this to a large extent; the real reason for the console wars is kids whose parents can only afford one system building a sort of tribal affiliation around it. However, while I think that reason for it still exists, they don't have as much ammunition this gen as they did in the past. Last gen -- and especially further back, in the 8, 16, and 32 bit generations -- direct ports between different systems were a lot harder, because different systems were better at different things, and most games for those systems were built around those strengths -- to the point that two systems would often have two completely different games that shared the same name. In this day and age, the PS3 and the 360 are powerful enough that, while they do have different strengths and weaknesses, they're both powerful enough that said strengths and weaknesses don't matter all that much; "weak" is a relative term. So what does this change? Well, kids can't argue about the libraries as much anymore. Each system has a handful of first and second party exclusives, and then literally every other game on the system is available on the other one, or will become available on it at some point in the future. It's starting to be less Sega Vs. Nintendo, and more Gateway Vs. Dell.IKSA said:
Not to mention, "Superior version" is often by inches, if at all. Even lat gen, there were a lot of games where one would get the superior version. The only way this really matters right now is if one gets bonus content the other doesn't, and that usually doesn't happen. Last gen had a lot fewer exclusives, but still had the rampant issue of the "better version." Now, even that's going away.Owyn_Merrilin said:
There are tons of PC games, and plenty of places to get them, you just need to look. A lot of the best games for PC don't have, or need, nearly as much advertising as console games. Plenty of indie games are phenomenal while maintaining a low price point. Just because you don't know of many titles, doesn't mean there aren't many. I myself have over 220 titles on steam, not including old games that I have on disk, floppy etc. Then when you include the abandonware that's available online for free. http://www.myabandonware.com/Jim Sturtridge said:
Not really an issue, seeing as terabyte hard drives are piss cheap. The one that is currently in my PC cost me 50 bucks 4 years ago. Not only that, but given the nature of steam, you just uninstall and re install at any time. Also if you're not playing it or not planning to again, why keep it on the drive? Memory storage on the consoles isn't that great either, and considering more and more console games require installation, it's not much of an argument to say that "Your drive will get full!" against PC games.
Again, given how old the consoles are, more developers are requiring installations of their games to allow them to run optimally. Battlefield 3 is the most recent example.
What's your point? PC's have DVD drives and can read more formats than the Xbox will ever be able to read. Blu ray drives are cheap these days and will burn DVD's as well. Netflix can be used on anything with a screen. Not just an Xbox or Ps3, but my Wii, my cell phone, my 3DS and my PC.
1000 dollars is for if you want something "space age", for about 500 bucks you can build a PC that can run all the current games at a higher graphical quality than the Xbox. The average Xbox game is 720P or less, has low res textures and no anti aliasing, you essentially play at the PC equivalent of low settings. The ~500 dollar build I proposed could probably squeeze 1080p resolution (including both screen and texture resolution) and low anti aliasing, the equivalent to medium/high.
There are also a lot of free to play games available, for PC only, that are great. League of Legends (Excluding the supposed quality of their community), most MMO's are F2P now, Team Fortress 2 as examples.
Yes, you pay more upfront for the PC, but you need to remember, it's a PC. An Xbox you pay 300+ dollars without the functionality of a computer. This argument will be invalid the day that an Xbox can COMPLETELY replace your home PC, but chances are that wont happen.
Now think about it, consider the cost of the computer you're using to post, then add the total cost of your xbox and accessories (don't include games). The average person spends, between the combined total of the two, easily over 1000 dollars. And for what? The Xbox which is almost a decade out of date, and an over priced computer that doesn't even have a decent graphics chip.
I got mine second hand of the dutch equivalent of Craigs list.Waaghpowa said:
games aren't rare and early models lack a lockout chip (pirating DC games isn't that bad since they are out of print for a long time.)