Poll: Could you really give up on Bioware?

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isometry

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I already gave up on them after Mass Effect 2, here are my reasons:

1) I enjoyed the first 90% of ME 2, aside from my decisions from the first game not mattering / being dealt with in the cheapest possible way. For example, decisions about Anderson and the council. I could see that the much touted feature of importing a save game was just a marketing gimmick, as far as I'm concerned it fell short of being a real feature.

2) The last 10% of ME 2, terminator reaper and the origin of the collectors, led me to see the game as an exciting but ultimately pointlessly adventure - like a hollywood blockbuster movie. This is not such a bad thing, but from Bioware I used to expect more.

3) Dealing with some DLC for ME 2 was so inconvenient that it turned me off to doing business with Bioware and EA. Compared to the convenience of DLC with steam, EAware's service was unacceptable.

4) The Origin exclusive / required thing happened after I already quit buying from EA, but it was a great affirmation that I made the right choice.
 

Savber

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Ugh these type of posts.

Look OP... One does not "give up" a video game developer. None are gods. None are some perfect corporations that will fulfill your every needs.

Instead one should try judging a game by whether it's good or not and not by what company it's from.

I would buy another Bioware game if it proves to be good and fun. I won't go "giving up" on Bioware just because it makes bad games. I would just "give up" playing a game that I personally would not enjoy.

Savvy?
 

Soviet Heavy

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I've already given up on them. I'm not supporting Origin, and so Mass Effect 3 was no purchase. The end.
 

Mike Richards

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How about we all decide if we're buying their next game once we actually know anything about their next game? A game is a game, if it's good then it doesn't matter what other releases have come before it. If it isn't, it doesn't mean they'll always be terrible from now until the end of time.

I didn't like Dragon Age: Origins, doesn't mean I had to stop buying Mass Effect.

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Savber said:
Ugh these type of posts.

Look OP... One does not "give up" a video game developer. None are gods. None are some perfect corporations that will fulfill your every needs.

Instead one should try judging a game by whether it's good or not and not by what company it's from.

I would buy another Bioware game if it proves to be good and fun. I won't go "giving up" on Bioware just because it makes bad games. I would just "give up" playing a game that I personally would not enjoy.

Savvy?
What he said.
 

King of Asgaard

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The only Bioware game I own is Dragon Age: Origins, and it bored me to tears, so I've never really liked Bioware much anyway.
 

death525

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No, I didn't hate Dragon Age 2 as much as most people, and I still liked Mass Effect 3 despite its ending. It would have to take something really drastic to stop me from buying Bioware games day one.
 

DustyDrB

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I have no reason to, honestly. I'm not trying to say people's concerns with them aren't legitimate, but I'm not you. I haven't played a game of theirs that I didn't enjoy. Mass Effect 3 was 99% absolutely fantastic. Aside from the ending, I had only one other issue with it (though it wasn't a small one): Shepard speaks too much on his own. Why the hell did they do that? It's so cringe-inducing when he/she speaks without you selecting the option. Everything else in the game was golden, though.

I wouldn't, however, call Dragon Age 2 a good game. I did enjoy it, but it's flaws are way too front and center for even the most ardent fan to ignore. It made some improvements. I loved the ability trees. It offered way more different ways to build rogues and warriors. The same isn't true for mages, but...meh, I hate magic in the Dragon Age universe with a passion anyway. But the flaws ranged from eyebrow-raising to jaw-droppingly incomprehensible.

However, I rank Dragon Age 3 as the most intriguing game in the near future. BioWare has never had to come back from this level of criticism before (still to this day, even with the Mass Effect 3 ending fiasco. Many people hated Dragon Age 2 through and through). I am very interested to see how they handle it. So far, it seems (from news reports and from some Twitter posts, especialy Mike Laidlaw's) that the original story idea for Dragon Age 3 has been scrapped. It also seems like they will be taking more time to develop Dragon Age 3. And if I were to list all of Dragon Age 2's problems, I'd think will have all found their birth in the issue of time. The development time for Dragon Age 3 was staggeringly short for an RPG. It was released only about 16 months after Dragon Age: Origins (Dragon Age Origins: November 2009; Dragon Age 2: March 2011) . Not only that, but major DLC was still being released for Origins as late as September 2010 (Witch Hunt). So not only was there short development time, but the team was stretched thin. And it wouldn't surprise me if they were mentally and creatively (probably physically, too) fatigued as well.

So all in all, I will be highly interested in seeing how Dragon Age 3 turns out. And no, I'm not done with BioWare.
 

psicat

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No. I've enjoyed every Bioware game I've played until now, so why should I.
 

tendaji

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Nope, because I had fun when playing Bioware games, and that's all that matters to me. Just like any other developer that everyone dislikes. If I enjoy their games, then chances are I'm going to buy the game to play it, because that's why I play video games, to have fun.
 

=HCFS=Discoman

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dreadedcandiru99 said:
=HCFS=Discoman said:
All I hear about the ending is people saying they dislike it, not that it's poorly made or poorly interacts with the story.
It is poorly made, and it does poorly interact with the story. If/when you get ME3 and finish it, watch this. I think it pretty much covers everything.

Sweet! That explains it. Thanks for sharing.
 

Godhead

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As long as I can keep playing the games that they have already released. Still need my KoToR and Baldur's Gate.
 

DragonLordSerge

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Yes i can give up on bioware it all really depends how the new ending dlc works out if it gives me some sort of closure ill stay with them but if it just fails at giving me closure im done with them Dragon age 2 was really bad in my view so i allready gave up on that series......
 

Canadamus Prime

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Yes. In fact I already gave up on them months ago, well before ME3 even came out. Well to clarify I didn't really give up on Bioware, I gave up on EA because of their despicable business practices. It's just unfortunate that Bioware is inexorably tied to EA.
 

skywolfblue

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I play Bioware games because I like them, especially Mass Effect 3, and even to a much lesser extent Dragon Age 2.

I owe no "loyalty" I feel no "duty" to purchase their games, so if ever one day they make something I don't like, I won't buy it.
 

ThePuzzldPirate

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There are developers I keep track and others I don't, I guess you could call it loyalty but meh. I don't follow Bioware as close as I used to as they stopped making games I liked. I will buy a game from them as soon as they make something I like again but with EA looming over them, I don't think it will happen.
 

PurePareidolia

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Yes, I was all set to not buy ME3 but then it turned out to be actually good. If it hadn't, I wouldn't have bought it. As it stands I'm not getting CnC Generals 2 or SWTOR any time soon.
 

El Danny

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Nope.

Thought Dragon Age 2 was amazing.

And Mass Effect 3.

Bioware are the only 'Dev' team I still really have faith in to make such big budget games, I guess haters gona hate.
 

Smiley Face

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Depends what you mean by "give up". Will I flat out refuse to buy their games? Of course not. Will I still probably end up buying most of their games? Probably, because by and large, they're exceptionally good. Will I turn a more skeptical eye towards what they come out with in the future? Oh yes.

They've proven they can screw up on important matters. So they're not perfect - they're still good. Sure, I lament their flaws, but it won't stop me enjoying their stuff. Hell, Obsidian's awesome - they've just always been kinda screwy.