Poll: Daniel Tosh threatens Woman with Gang Rape

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kickyourass

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Ultratwinkie said:
kickyourass said:
Rape jokes CAN be funny, in the same way that jumping from a 3 story window CAN be survived, it's definitly possible, but rarely worth it.

Ultratwinkie said:
Well Daniel Tosh's main category of comedy is dark humor. Sometimes it delves into incredibly dark areas. Being offended at what he does is like being offended at Lisa Lampanelli for calling any man that looks even slightly effeminate a ******.

Its just what they do.
So because he uses 'dark humor' he's immune from criticism? Fuck how come no one told me comedy was that easy?
Dark humor is about making fun of tragedy. Saying Daniel Tosh should not do dark humor is like saying you can only do knock knock jokes without the knock knock part.

It defeats the point.
But he wasn't doing 'dark humor' he was being an asshole. I don't object at all to dark humor, when done right it's probably my favorite form of comedy. I object to the idea that because someone does 'dark humor' that you can't call them out when they're just being a douche bag or just plain not funny.
May I point out the question posed by the poll

""Is rape acceptable to joke about?""

And the OPs answers

"no
no
definitely No"

The answer, however, is yes, and anyone on this thread mad at tosh not because he sucks at his job, but because it happened to include the mention of rape, is wrong. You can say he did it badly, but saying you can't joke about rape AT ALL, is wrong. And unfortunately, that's the stance the OP takes, that you can NEVER joke about rape, and tosh should be punished for bringing it up. That's wrong.

agree?
I agree, but would you not also agree that it's kind of bullshit for someone to declare that you can't criticise a comedian's actions on stage because it's "Dark Humor" or 'what they always do?'

Ultratwinkie said:
kickyourass said:
Ultratwinkie said:
kickyourass said:
Rape jokes CAN be funny, in the same way that jumping from a 3 story window CAN be survived, it's definitly possible, but rarely worth it.

Ultratwinkie said:
Well Daniel Tosh's main category of comedy is dark humor. Sometimes it delves into incredibly dark areas. Being offended at what he does is like being offended at Lisa Lampanelli for calling any man that looks even slightly effeminate a ******.

Its just what they do.
So because he uses 'dark humor' he's immune from critisism? Fuck how come no one told me comedy was that easy?
Dark humor is about making fun of tragedy. Saying Daniel Tosh should not do dark humor is like saying you can only do knock knock jokes without the knock knock part.

It defeats the point.
But he wasn't doing 'dark humor' he was being an asshole. I don't object at all to dark humor, when done right it's probably my favorite form of comedy. I object to the idea that because someone does 'dark humor' that you can't call them out when they're just being a douche bag or just plain not funny.
When Dark Humor's entire point is to joke about tragedy, it can be considered assholish by people. However, its worthy to point out its a show. Daniel Tosh is no more real than Steven Colbert or Lisa Lampanelli. A fake persona that people like, and pay to see.

People need to learn to separate stage personalities from the person.
Yeah it probably is a persona, does that somehow mean I can't point out that when his persona's being an unfunny asshole? I know Daniel Tosh probably isn't like that in his day to day life, but if he always acts like a douche on stage I think it's completely appropriate to say 'That guy's a douche."
 

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Clearing the Eye said:
Delsana said:
In any case, maturity isn't subjective by its actual form and definition.
Yes it is. Go back to the drawing board and try again.
Is your avatar slapping its butt, or its balls? It quite confuses me.
 

Dimitriov

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Silly biased poll that is afraid of dissenting opinions is silly.

I find Tosh funny, and rape is, like all subjects, open to being made fun of. She didn't like it? She shouldn't have been there: rape is pretty standard joke material for Daniel Tosh.

Seriously, what was she even doing there except apparently trying to be a spoil sport?
 
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This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

First of all, either throw out your idiotic poll or make it an ACTUAL poll with more things than just YOUR opinion.

Second, that's a very nice lying and one sided thread title you got there....

Third, NOTHING is sacred when it comes to comedy. EVERYTHING can be funny. I'll let George Carlin explain...

 

SecondPrize

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rabble rabble

I don't see how this was heckling. Just because you're on stage doesn't mean that if someone calls you for being out of line, it's heckling.
 

Delsana

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Clearing the Eye said:
Delsana said:
In any case, maturity isn't subjective by its actual form and definition.
Yes it is. Go back to the drawing board and try again.
Maturity is not subjective. You can be immature and thus juvenile or you can be mature and thus conducive to proper behavior.

You can't subject what proper behavior is because etiquette and proper behavior has and will always be universal. Your opinion of what is proper may change but the definition of what is in society won't.

You can also not interpret what juvenile behavior is, because that's pretty much set in stone, and while you can debate age, it has nothing to do with age.
 

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Murmillos said:
Team Dickwolves reporting in!
Dude not cool don't you know every time you mention dick wolves over 4 million sexual assault victims experience trigger events or however that stupid joke went.
 

Byere

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I'm going to quote George Carlin on this one...

"Imagine Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd..."

Joking aside, it can be made funny if done correctly.
 

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Just realised that unless the first dark joke Tosh told was the controversial rape joke, the lady is a hypocrite. She can sit through all of the other examples of dark humour, dead babies, murder, religion etc but as soon as rape comes up "oh no that's a bad subject, I better be an utter prick and stop the show instead of walking out". She didn't show any sympathy in the other joke topics so why should rape be the exception?!

BTW that is going on the likely assumption that the first dark joke told was not the rape joke.
 

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I am constantly hearing how some are saying Daniel is ok or funny because he performs dark humor. I understand the comedy does stem some from cynicism, but it needs to at least be funny, not insulting. He sounds more like a uppity rich douche bag who feels he can talk down to everyone because he can. But talking down on people because they are not as well off as him and talking about rape as a joke, is not funny. It is insulting and offensive. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy himself in fact has raped people, as most people I hear who jokes about rape, just so happen to be rapers.
 

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GangstaPony said:
The people who find rape funny in any way have never actually seen and/or experienced it.
It's very hard to make a cancer joke when your friend is dying of it in the hospital.
If you make it regardless then damn, you must not give a shit about anything. Good for you.
You must have missed the part in this very thread where someone said he knew a girl that was raped when she was young and constantly made rape jokes later in life. Way to speak for everyone in the world though.

Korne said:
If a tree falls on a woman and nobody hears it... what was a tree doing in the kitchen? (Bum bum cha)
I am both shocked and outraged! Why are tree's allowed to get away with raping our women!? We should cut down all trees so this never happens again!
 

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Delsana said:
Clearing the Eye said:
Delsana said:
In any case, maturity isn't subjective by its actual form and definition.
Yes it is. Go back to the drawing board and try again.
Maturity is not subjective. You can be immature and thus juvenile or you can be mature and thus conducive to proper behavior.

You can't subject what proper behavior is because etiquette and proper behavior has and will always be universal. Your opinion of what is proper may change but the definition of what is in society won't.

You can also not interpret what juvenile behavior is, because that's pretty much set in stone, and while you can debate age, it has nothing to do with age.
Maturity is entirely subjective. Different locations and societies have entirely different views of maturity. Why do you think different areas have different ages for when a person becomes an adult, or different ages of sexual consent? Because not everyone agrees on when someone is mature or not.

There is a huge group of people that consider playing video games to be immature. I'm sure you and I would disagree, meaning that maturity isn't some law that is set in stone.
 

CD-R

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/thread

http://www.buzzfeed.com/amyodell/comedy-club-owner-says-daniel-tosh-incident-has-be

tl;dr the woman complained to management which in turn gave her two free tickets to another show which the woman accepted. Daniel Tosh never even said "wouldn't it be funny if 5 guys just raped her."
 

Dead Seerius

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CAN topics like rape be funny in comedy? Yes.
Was Tosh's example funny? Not at all.
I get that hes into shock humor and I've actually watched his show a couple times, but the way he presented it here seems pretty lame to me.
That being said, like the guy above me pointed out, it's pretty hypocritical of the woman to be fine with everything Tosh insults but only rape crosses the line of bad taste.
Kinda like when the guy who voiced Chef from South Park quit because he was "offended" by Parker and Stone's portrayal of Scientology (he being a member).
Hypocrites, hypocrites everywhere.
 

Boris Goodenough

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Starblaze27 said:
I am constantly hearing how some are saying Daniel is ok or funny because he performs dark humor. I understand the comedy does stem some from cynicism, but it needs to at least be funny, not insulting. He sounds more like a uppity rich douche bag who feels he can talk down to everyone because he can. But talking down on people because they are not as well off as him and talking about rape as a joke, is not funny. It is insulting and offensive. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy himself in fact has raped people, as most people I hear who jokes about rape, just so happen to be rapers.
That's a load of libel if I ever saw it.
But that's ok all men are more or less part of the rapist culture...
 

Zaik

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Ha, that's great, I need to start watching Tosh.0 again. No cable though :/

This thread does leave me with a question though. What the shit is up with the concentration of white knights in the Escapist? Looking around elsewhere you just occasionally see a few weeping children get ignored.

It's like the Escapist has become the hipster white knight religion's Utah.

Or was it always this way, and as I matured I just started seeing it better.
 

Eri

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SadakoMoose said:
The idea of BRONIES defending the use of gang rape joke to shut up a woman who had a legit complaint is almost as shocking as when I found out that there were Nazi bronies...
Oh god the pain...
The hypocrisy here is astounding. You're all for love and tolerance except for when it's something you don't tolerate? Okay.