Poll: Daniel Tosh threatens Woman with Gang Rape

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Kahunaburger

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Also, some people ITT like rape jokes but are mortally offended when you troll them with a poll. Now that is funny.

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halp why isnt it turning green i dont undertant
 

Lilani

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Mr Cwtchy said:
Erm, joking about her being gang-raped isn't threatening it.
Legally, it can be. When referring to one specific person it can be construed as a threat, because at that point whether or not it was done in a "joking" manner is the issue. The fact is the words he uttered were "Wouldn't it be great if she got gang raped right now?" and that is threatening language.

Captcha: Silence is golden. I bet Tosh is wishing he'd kept with that policy on this joke...

I think rape jokes can work, but about a specific audience member, and totally intended to hurt and laugh at them rather than with them? Way out of bounds. There are many things you can say to hecklers, but that sort of thing just turns him into the asshole. Zero class, zero funny.
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Also, some people ITT like rape jokes but are mortally offended when you troll them with a poll. Now that is funny.
Hey man, a lot of people, especially those on the internet, consider comedy to be a sacred thing. Even people who like a particular comedian will raise a stink when that comedian is persecuted unjustly. These folks want to literally drive Tosh out of the business because he makes rape jokes. How screwed up is that?
 

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Jack the Potato said:
Kahunaburger said:
Also, some people ITT like rape jokes but are mortally offended when you troll them with a poll. Now that is funny.
Hey man, a lot of people, especially those on the internet, consider comedy to be a sacred thing. Even people who like a particular comedian will raise a stink when that comedian is persecuted unjustly. These folks want to literally drive Tosh out of the business because he makes rape jokes. How screwed up is that?
Dudebros aren't going away any time soon. I'm sure Unfunny Comedian #472 will be just fine. Doesn't he still have that TV show or something?
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Jack the Potato said:
Kahunaburger said:
Also, some people ITT like rape jokes but are mortally offended when you troll them with a poll. Now that is funny.
Hey man, a lot of people, especially those on the internet, consider comedy to be a sacred thing. Even people who like a particular comedian will raise a stink when that comedian is persecuted unjustly. These folks want to literally drive Tosh out of the business because he makes rape jokes. How screwed up is that?
Dudebros aren't going away any time soon. I'm sure Unfunny Comedian #472 will be just fine. Doesn't he still have that TV show or something?
Oh, I'm not saying they'll succeed by any means. This will blow over after enough people tell them to shut up. All I'm saying is that they want to ruin Tosh's career over something as trivial as a few offensive jokes. That's totally fucking lame. I mean, the people who want to ruin, say, Dane Cook's career I can at least understand; they want him to go away because they think he isn't funny. That's reasonable! And it's especially true since people have been posting clips of other wildly popular and successful comedians who make rape jokes. George Carlin may be dead, but are these people also going to try and drive Louis C.K. out of the business?
 

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What does it mean for something to be offensive or unacceptable? Just because something someone says causes you to respond emotionally doesn't mean that you can make the judgement that it is objectively wrong (or right). I've seen a few posts on reddit in regards to this, and, in my opinion, it comes down to this:

When you say something offends you, you are openly claiming that you have no control over your emotions. You can't control yourself, so you need other people to do it for you.

It's your opinion that it's not acceptable. Nothing more.

When it really comes down to it, the only way anyone can ever be "right" is because they have the 'bigger stick'. Are you just going to sit there and think you're right by virtue of your perfect sense of morality, or are you going to embrace some humility?
 

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Jack the Potato said:
Kahunaburger said:
Jack the Potato said:
Kahunaburger said:
Also, some people ITT like rape jokes but are mortally offended when you troll them with a poll. Now that is funny.
Hey man, a lot of people, especially those on the internet, consider comedy to be a sacred thing. Even people who like a particular comedian will raise a stink when that comedian is persecuted unjustly. These folks want to literally drive Tosh out of the business because he makes rape jokes. How screwed up is that?
Dudebros aren't going away any time soon. I'm sure Unfunny Comedian #472 will be just fine. Doesn't he still have that TV show or something?
Oh, I'm not saying they'll succeed by any means. This will blow over after enough people tell them to shut up. All I'm saying is that they want to ruin Tosh's career over something as trivial as a few offensive jokes. That's totally fucking lame. I mean, the people who want to ruin, say, Dane Cook's career I can at least understand; they want him to go away because they think he isn't funny. That's reasonable! And it's especially true since people have been posting clips of other wildly popular and successful comedians who make rape jokes. George Carlin may be dead, but are these people also going to try and drive Louis C.K. out of the business?
It sounds like he singled out this audience member for a bigoted tirade a la the guy who played Kramer. Unlike Kramer, he has fans, so he'll be fine. It's not the first time an unfunny comedian has continued to make money despite being unfunny (or a bigoted one to continue to make money despite his bigotry).
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Jack the Potato said:
Kahunaburger said:
Jack the Potato said:
Kahunaburger said:
Also, some people ITT like rape jokes but are mortally offended when you troll them with a poll. Now that is funny.
Hey man, a lot of people, especially those on the internet, consider comedy to be a sacred thing. Even people who like a particular comedian will raise a stink when that comedian is persecuted unjustly. These folks want to literally drive Tosh out of the business because he makes rape jokes. How screwed up is that?
Dudebros aren't going away any time soon. I'm sure Unfunny Comedian #472 will be just fine. Doesn't he still have that TV show or something?
Oh, I'm not saying they'll succeed by any means. This will blow over after enough people tell them to shut up. All I'm saying is that they want to ruin Tosh's career over something as trivial as a few offensive jokes. That's totally fucking lame. I mean, the people who want to ruin, say, Dane Cook's career I can at least understand; they want him to go away because they think he isn't funny. That's reasonable! And it's especially true since people have been posting clips of other wildly popular and successful comedians who make rape jokes. George Carlin may be dead, but are these people also going to try and drive Louis C.K. out of the business?
It sounds like he singled out this audience member for a bigoted tirade a la the guy who played Kramer. Unlike Kramer, he has fans, so he'll be fine. It's not the first time an unfunny comedian has continued to make money despite being unfunny (or a bigoted one to continue to make money despite his bigotry).
He applied his dark sense of humour to somebody who heckled him. I fail to see where the bigotry came from.
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Jack the Potato said:
Kahunaburger said:
Jack the Potato said:
Kahunaburger said:
Also, some people ITT like rape jokes but are mortally offended when you troll them with a poll. Now that is funny.
Hey man, a lot of people, especially those on the internet, consider comedy to be a sacred thing. Even people who like a particular comedian will raise a stink when that comedian is persecuted unjustly. These folks want to literally drive Tosh out of the business because he makes rape jokes. How screwed up is that?
Dudebros aren't going away any time soon. I'm sure Unfunny Comedian #472 will be just fine. Doesn't he still have that TV show or something?
Oh, I'm not saying they'll succeed by any means. This will blow over after enough people tell them to shut up. All I'm saying is that they want to ruin Tosh's career over something as trivial as a few offensive jokes. That's totally fucking lame. I mean, the people who want to ruin, say, Dane Cook's career I can at least understand; they want him to go away because they think he isn't funny. That's reasonable! And it's especially true since people have been posting clips of other wildly popular and successful comedians who make rape jokes. George Carlin may be dead, but are these people also going to try and drive Louis C.K. out of the business?
It sounds like he singled out this audience member for a bigoted tirade a la the guy who played Kramer. Unlike Kramer, he has fans, so he'll be fine. It's not the first time an unfunny comedian has continued to make money despite being unfunny (or a bigoted one to continue to make money despite his bigotry).
You really seem to be insistent on the use of "unfunny." I mean, I get it, you don't like him. There's no need to beat me over the head with it. You made your point. Several times in fact. And he singled out this audience member not by random, but because she heckled him. That alone makes her deserving of any verbal beatdown she gets, because the point of responding to a heckler is often not to make jokes at their expense (though that usually works best) but to get them to shut up. I'd say he at least succeeded at that (at least until she went to her blog to cry about it).
 

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Kahunaburger said:
It sounds like he singled out this audience member for a bigoted tirade a la the guy who played Kramer. Unlike Kramer, he has fans, so he'll be fine. It's not the first time an unfunny comedian has continued to make money despite being unfunny (or a bigoted one to continue to make money despite his bigotry).
A single joke in response to a heckler does not a tirade make.
 

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Jack the Potato said:
You really seem to be insistent on the use of "unfunny."
Yeah, because this guy is really insistent on not being funny.


Jack the Potato said:
And he singled out this audience member not by random, but because she heckled him. That alone makes her deserving of any verbal beatdown she gets, because the point of responding to a heckler is often not to make jokes at their expense (though that usually works best) but to get them to shut up.


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Kahunaburger said:
Jack the Potato said:
You really seem to be insistent on the use of "unfunny."
Yeah, because this guy is really insistent on not being funny.


Jack the Potato said:
And he singled out this audience member not by random, but because she heckled him. That alone makes her deserving of any verbal beatdown she gets, because the point of responding to a heckler is often not to make jokes at their expense (though that usually works best) but to get them to shut up.


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I really don't get what you're trying to do here. Compare him to that guy from Seinfeld? I mean... what?
 

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Jack the Potato said:
I really don't get what you're trying to do here. Compare him to that guy from Seinfeld? I mean... what?
This story immediately reminded of this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pp6WC1Ocz4] incident.
 

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Jack the Potato said:
Kahunaburger said:
Jack the Potato said:
You really seem to be insistent on the use of "unfunny."
Yeah, because this guy is really insistent on not being funny.


Jack the Potato said:
And he singled out this audience member not by random, but because she heckled him. That alone makes her deserving of any verbal beatdown she gets, because the point of responding to a heckler is often not to make jokes at their expense (though that usually works best) but to get them to shut up.


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I really don't get what you're trying to do here. Compare him to that guy from Seinfeld? I mean... what?
 

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Spot1990 said:

Rape jokes can be funny. Any joke can be funny. Nothing is completely and utterly off limits because intent and context are important.
Not bad. Ever seen this Whitest Kids U Know skit?

 

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Lilani said:
There are many things you can say to hecklers, but that sort of thing just turns him into the asshole. Zero class, zero funny.
Some heckler put downs are hilarious.

Don't worry, none are offensive....

 

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Kahunaburger said:
Jack the Potato said:
You really seem to be insistent on the use of "unfunny."
Yeah, because this guy is really insistent on not being funny.
Whether or not we find him funny is irrelevant to the discussion. He has an audience that clearly does find him funny, up to and including his jokes about rape. He also has people that do not find him funny, perhaps because of the jokes about rape. That is enough for the purposes of the debate. Beginning a personal statement with an opinion regarding whether or not he is funny contributes nothing to the debate and only serves to illustrate personal bias.

Jack the Potato said:
And he singled out this audience member not by random, but because she heckled him. That alone makes her deserving of any verbal beatdown she gets, because the point of responding to a heckler is often not to make jokes at their expense (though that usually works best) but to get them to shut up.
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I'm inclined to think that you're misrepresenting the situation. Michael Richards, a comedian best known for a relatively family-friendly role where most of the darker elements were implied or referred to through euphemisms, chose to respond to a heckler in an show where he was garnering a largely negative audience reaction by making an cheap attempt at shock humour that only drove the audience against him more. Daniel Tosh, by contrast, is, for better or worse, a comedian primarily recognized for shock humour, and chose to respond to a heckler in what I shall for the purposes of this argument assume to be a relatively genial crowd by making an attempt at shock humour in line with the type of comedy he had been using throughout the rest of his set. Context, as always, is everything.
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Jack the Potato said:
I really don't get what you're trying to do here. Compare him to that guy from Seinfeld? I mean... what?
This story immediately reminded of this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pp6WC1Ocz4] incident.
I don't see it. I mean, that guy lost his shit and went berserk, but all Tosh did was make one harsh joke. There's a LOT more heckler clips you can find that are a LOT more similar to what happened in Tosh's routine.