Poll: Dark Souls Prepare to Die Edition: Should they make the new content available for console players?

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Bat Vader

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If FromSoftware is smart they will release the extra content on the PC version as free DLC for the console versions. If they don't they will most likely upset a lot of people.
 

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Of course they should make it avaliable for console players. Paid or free, it doesn't matter.
 

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of course they should, and of course they will. unless they decide that they just dont like money. i dont care if they do or dont though. even if they release dlc the same day, or sooner, as the pc release, ill still be picking up the pc release asap
 

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Bat Vader said:
If FromSoftware is smart they will release the extra content on the PC version as free DLC for the console versions. If they don't they will most likely upset a lot of people.
You are talking about the wrong company. Namco Bandai is the publisher so they decide on DLC and the like. From Software just makes stuff.
 

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Eddie the head said:
On that note isn't The Witcher 2 getting free dlc for the PC.
'Getting'? The Enhanced Edition patch/DLC went live the same day as the 360 version launched - 17th April.


Even thought the extra content was made for the X-box.
No it wasn't. The extra content was always intended for both platforms.


I fail to see how this is any different.
Well, superficially the situations aren't any different...

However, seeing as a you can't just throw up your files on any old file server for consoles to access like you can with a PC, trying to do it with a console game has a lot more obstacles in the way and it's harder to avoid people holding out their hand for cash to make things happen.

Also, CD Projekt Red has one advantage no other studio I know of has - their publisher is, thanks to the current structure of the CD Projekt Group, one of their subsidiaries.
 

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FrostyChick said:
It could very well make it to console, there isn't really a good excuse not to release it on consoles. But it won't be free, it costs the publisher/developer money to get content added to those systems.
From what I've heard most the extra content for the PC version was being planned to be released for the consoles anyway.

Is it really such an unreasonable request to do something properly?
It's not unreasonable to request it but if the usual quality of a console to PC port is any indication it's unreasonable to expect it to happen.
 

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Seeing as it was the console crowd who made the game the success it is, I don't see why they shouldn't get the extra content as well, even if it requires being paid DLC.
 

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80Maxwell08 said:
Bat Vader said:
If FromSoftware is smart they will release the extra content on the PC version as free DLC for the console versions. If they don't they will most likely upset a lot of people.
You are talking about the wrong company. Namco Bandai is the publisher so they decide on DLC and the like. From Software just makes stuff.
I thought the developer of the game gets the final say on DLC. That kinda seems unfair that publishers have that much power over a developer.
 

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FrostyChick said:
It could very well make it to console, there isn't really a good excuse not to release it on consoles. But it won't be free, it costs the publisher/developer money to get content added to those systems.

But then again, I'm starting to lose interest. Sure, Games for Windows Live was a bit of a bitchslap, although it's understandable as it would make porting the netcode a lot easier. Then I heard the keyboard/mouse controls were going to be limited, I also heard it was going to be locked at 30FPS.
The more I hear about it, the more I feel like it's going to be a botched porting job. Which in the end hurts everybody, it hurts the consumers as they're left with a product that isn't fit for purpose and it hurts the developers as the sales will take a hit as a result, possibly even turning them away from PC development altogether.

Is it really such an unreasonable request to do something properly?
i think some of those decisions were made to make it even between console and PC players in terms of controls.
a large part of the attraction of the souls games is the fact you can't pause and root through your inventory mid combat for an antidote or similar curative, you have to plan your on hand inventory about what you'll want/need for the immediate future(think the witcher's potion system but less stupid and arbitrary).

in effect they want you to play the game like it was made to be played from the start, with a controller not a keyboard.
 

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RhombusHatesYou said:
No it wasn't. The extra content was always intended for both platforms.
For future reference look down the page it was two posts away. You don't need to reiterate that.
 
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Eddie the head said:
gmaverick019 said:
Eddie the head said:
Even thought the extra content was made for the X-box . I fail to see how this is any different.
WAIT WHAT? where did you hear that, I have never seen that before, they had already planned for the enhanced stuff way long ago when they first released the game for the pc.
Regardless I fail to see how it is different.
well i could say

"final fantasy 7 is getting a PC only HD remake" and i'd get quoted asking for sources/how in holy hell that's true. I was just curious as to where you had heard as such.
 

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Bat Vader said:
I thought the developer of the game gets the final say on DLC. That kinda seems unfair that publishers have that much power over a developer.
Put it this way - if the publisher isn't going to fund making the DLC why would most developers bother?
 

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Bat Vader said:
80Maxwell08 said:
Bat Vader said:
If FromSoftware is smart they will release the extra content on the PC version as free DLC for the console versions. If they don't they will most likely upset a lot of people.
You are talking about the wrong company. Namco Bandai is the publisher so they decide on DLC and the like. From Software just makes stuff.
I thought the developer of the game gets the final say on DLC. That kinda seems unfair that publishers have that much power over a developer.
The publishers have the final say on roughly everything. When the game is shipped regardless of if it's even finished or not, the IP rights to do whatever they want with it and the right to do whatever they want with DLC. If the publisher wants to cut the last 1/5th out of the game and sell it to you as DLC (see Asura's Wrath) then they can.
 

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gmaverick019 said:
well i could say

"final fantasy 7 is getting a PC only HD remake" and i'd get quoted asking for sources/how in holy hell that's true. I was just curious as to where you had heard as such.
Well all I heard was they where making a x box version that was going to have extra content and that it was going to be free on the PC as well. I wasn't really fallowing the game that was just kind of something I pieced together. I was wrong it would appear they are different somehow I don't don't play either game. So just forget I said anything.
 

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Joseph Alexander said:
I think some of those decisions were made to make it even between console and PC players in terms of controls.
a large part of the attraction of the souls games is the fact you can't pause and root through your inventory mid combat for an antidote or similar curative, you have to plan your on hand inventory about what you'll want/need for the immediate future(think the witcher's potion system but less stupid and arbitrary).

In effect they want you to play the game like it was made to be played from the start, with a controller not a keyboard.
Since when does "better support mouse/keyboard" automatically equate to "fundamentally change the gameplay"?

The game can support mouse and keyboard and still have the plan ahead, no magic pause inventory system that the console version has. These two things are not mutually exclusive.

And what does it mean to keep the systems even? Are the difficulty police really going to go out and break the devs fingers just because one feature in the game is marginally easier on one platform?
As far as I know, it is not cross-platform multiplayer. It doesn't affect console players in the slightest.
 

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I'll probably play it with my wired xbox pad which I bought specifically to play platformers and the like on Steam.

I have difficulty seeing how the controls will work with a mouse and keyboard but maybe I will be wrong and they will be great.

They definitely shouldn't change the fact that you have to cycle through pots etc and change it to keybinds. It's part of what makes the game hard.