Poll: - Deadliest Warrior: Sci-Fi Troops (Human)

[Rawne1980]

I have to go for unsure.

I demand Grey Knights.

They are human ..... give or take a few genetic alterations.

Grey Knights on the list = Grey Knights win.

I tried to avoid unbalancing the list.

Point taken.

I'll wind my neck in.

And then vote for Colonial Marines from Aliens .... purely because they all acted so tough before dying painfully and looking back it was quite amusing. Except Hicks, he was a hard bastard.

 

[Crimson_Dragoon]

I'd say ODST, as they are the elites of their army. Imperial Guard (the favorite as of now) are just too weak individually. Their strength comes from numbers, not individual skill.

 

[Spoonius]

Orbital Drop Shock troopers are the only ones listed with shields.

Really? All of them? I thought it was only the Rookie that had shields...

So are we now setting limits upon the rules you placed? If so, then I guess it wouldn't matter who I thought because you could just sway things into whomever's favor you wish.

Also, I still don't like the ODST. But that unfortunately wasn't the question.

There's no mention here [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Orbital_Drop_Shock_Trooper] of ODSTs having shields. The ODST "shield" is apparently a "stamina" bar.

So yeah, ODSTs do not have shields. It was simply a gameplay mechanic intended to replicate the generic Halo combat system.

 

[teebeeohh]

wait, why is it that halo get's elite troopers but everyone else gets a standard infantry unit?

Because a standard UNSC Marine and his rifle suck by even modern standards, let alone sci-fi standards. An ODST at least has superior skill on his side.

a guardsman sucks by modern standards, besides being able to pierce a tank, most of them receive next to no training before being shipped of to combat. At least make him Cadian, before becoming an actual guardsman those guys already have years of combat experience under their belt. They also come from a highly militarized society and can field-strip guns at the age of ten.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

Let me clear something up:

ODST's do NOT have shields.

They DO have amazing training, at least that of most special operation forces today.

But they are still human. They weapons and armor are better than todays, but not by much. Even as a Halo fanboy, I can say with certainity that ODSTs would lose hard.

This depends, of course on their equpment, but my modern standreds, the only adventges most of the UNSC small arms is that they can handle the recoil of stronger rounds better, they are made of lighter materials, and have various built in electronics.

Now, SPARTANS, on the other hand...

They would win.

 

[halex]

Can't say much about Colonial Marines because I haven't watched the Aliens series. Imperial Guardsmen, Clone Troopers, and Helghast always (from what I've seen) seem to work much better in groups than when they're alone so by the logic I'm inclined to eliminate them. Though to be fair the former two could, in theory, make up for it with their advanced weapons/equipment. ODSTs and Gears seem to have an advantage only in that I've had more experience with what they can do without assistance. I feel like Gears have a great amount of resilience which would help them in combat but ODSTs utilize more advanced tactics and could perhaps outmaneuver most threats.

Agreed. Gears and ODST are definately more trained in combat against humanoids aswell, so they would know how to better eliminate regular soldiers.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

I'm going with ODST. The Imperial Guard and Clone Troopers are best en-mass (though I have alot of respect for what the IG face every day). The Gears and Helgasht soldiers are certainly better on their own, but I still don't think of as anything truly special. The Colonial Marines are definitely pretty well equiped, but in the end it has to go to the ODST. They are not front-line troops, they are (as there name does say) shock-troops used to break the enemy with their skill where others cannot. They aren't Spartans, but you don't send green troops into battle using drop-pods unless it's en-mass.

Of course with the IG you have to elaborate on what you're talking about. It could be some conscripted 16yo fresh off an agri-world who's never held a gun before or it could be some Catachan veteran who's faced Tyranids and won.

 

[Spoonius]

wait, why is it that halo get's elite troopers but everyone else gets a standard infantry unit?

Because a standard UNSC Marine and his rifle suck by even modern standards, let alone sci-fi standards. An ODST at least has superior skill on his side.

a guardsman sucks by modern standards, besides being able to pierce a tank, most of them receive next to no training before being shipped of to combat. At least make him Cadian, before becoming an actual guardsman those guys already have years of combat experience under their belt. They also come from a highly militarized society and can field-strip guns at the age of ten.

Well the image in the OP is of a Cadian (hailing from the 412th).

I won't get into a lengthy debate, because I wanted to stay out of this and remain unbiased. I will say that you're absolutely right; most Guard regiments do rely on discipline rather than individual skill/initiative to maintain an effective fighting formation.

But a Guardsman is very different (both better and worse) to a modern soldier, whereas a UNSC Marine appears to be, at best, equal or inferior to a modern soldier from any current developed nation. That's the only reason I went with the ODST... I felt that a regular Marine just wouldn't be a real competitor, and wouldn't really offer anything new to the list.

EDIT:

Of course with the IG you have to elaborate on what you're talking about. It could be some conscripted 16yo fresh off an agri-world who's never held a gun before or it could be some Catachan veteran who's faced Tyranids and won.

Somewhere in the middle. A grunt who's done his/her basic training, and is relatively competent.

 

[RevRaptor]

I'm going with Guard. Specificity these guys:

The Tanith First-and-Only‎ are tough bastards to a man and going up against any one of them would be a really bad day. Also for the Tanith troopers standard issue is anything they can lay their hands on. So there is no telling what kind of weapons they would bring to the fight.

 

[twistedmic]

Since the MI is out, rightfully so given how powerful even a single Trooper is, I'll go with the Colonial Marines (Aliens). Mostly because they've got those awesome sentry drones along side their M-40A1 Pulse rifles. Even if they die, they're more than likely to take their enemy out with them

Spoiler

take Hudson, Vasquez and, to a lesser extent, Gorman as examples

. If both combatants die then it's a draw at best.

 

[JaceArveduin]

I don't know too much about the others, but Clone Troopers were well trained and had a decent kit, if it was a commando, then I know it would win. So I'm going to go with the Jango clone.

There's a difference between Clone and Storm troopers, (even if they are both clones as it happens) Clones took longer to "grow" and were extensively trained until as soon as they could raise a gun, while Storm troopers took a fraction of the time to "grow" and were flash trained, meaning they knew how to do everything, they just didn't have actual practice, which is why they tend to be lousy shots. Basically a Clone trooper took 10 years before being completely combat ready, while Storm trooper's took 2.

 

[Spoonius]

There's a difference between Clone and Storm troopers, (even if they are both clones as it happens) Clones took longer to "grow" and were extensively trained until as soon as they could raise a gun, while Storm troopers took a fraction of the time to "grow" and were flash trained, meaning they knew how to do everything, they just didn't have actual practice, which is why they tend to be lousy shots. Basically a Clone trooper took 10 years before being completely combat ready, while Storm trooper's took 2.

Mmmmm, a clone would definitely be one of the best-trained on the list.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I'd argue that the first 3 aren't soldiers at all. They are depicted are swarming hordes of moronic cannon-fodder to up the death count, or a select band of morons that win by virtue of being designated the heroes.

Possible exception of the Catachan Imperial Guard, who are occasionally depicted as actually trying to win, rather than not trying and winning or losing depending on the whims of the author.

EDIT: Personally I'd say that the UNIT soldiers from Doctor Who (none of the new rubbish) were the best...because to save on costs, the BBC often got real soldiers for the action scenes, and the monsters had to bulletproof to avoid getting slaughtered.

 

[monken8]

in a one on one fight everyone except the coloniel marines and the odst will just curl up into a ball
imperial guard: they are trained for one thing "BE CANNON FODDER!"
clone troppers: die like flys
gears: they wear helmats and have no voice they have no chance
Hellghast: british space nazi's not gonna work

so coliniel marines and ODST are left
ODST while good are as has been seen in games but they ultamatly are weak and have to keep hidden in order to win (sorta like non-awsome space ninjas)
Coloniel marines are beef headed egotist who have some of the best wepons in history
so in one on one i'd go with Coloniel marines i mean a pulse gataling gun "awsome"

 

[Nouw]

I was quite saddened by the lack of Starship Troopers in this thread until I read how you left them out for a reason. I love you man.

That aside, I feel that ODSTs take the cake. They have the best training and that trumps all.

 

[RN7]

I'm going to go with the other option and say the SC2 Marine. Yes, I know. They're basically fodder 1v1, but I'm pretty sure that toe-to-toe with these guys, they might live. Especially if the commander's micro is good. Plus you can force drugs into their system that makes them faster and stronger, and somehow makes their guns stronger as well considering they do more damage after a stim.

 

[Jedoro]

Gonna have to go with an ODST here. These guys seem to be the equivalent of Delta Force operatives, so you give a Helljumper a Rocket Launcher and Sniper Rifle and see which of those guys can take him.

 

[Sordak]

this is just a battle of the franchises, Honestly Impreaial Guard are fucking up here for a Reason. They are kind of shit.
Imo its the Gears. They may not have the best Equipment buthey they count as "Space Marines" (well at least the trope dispite not even beeing in space) even if they are only regular infantery.
They win in an objective comparison

 

[Korten12]

Going to have to go with the ODST, they're badasses.