Poll: Death Penalty

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ThePlasmatizer

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I reside in Britain in a suburb and one of the things I agree with in law is the fact there is no death penalty.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I picked up my local newspaper one day and in an article on crime they had comments from residents, one of them was particularly distasteful and said that these criminals should face the death penalty,
well really it's not that surprising when we get a percentage increase in votes for the BNP in my area.

I also find it particularly laughable that people find the progression from hanging to lethal injections more humane, I can't see anything humane about killing someone.

But if they wrong us, shall we not take revenge?
my answer to this is no, if we have revenge killings when will the cycle end?
all we would be doing is bringing ourselves to the level of the criminal , to the level of depravity.

I always thought Britain prided itself on a stiff upper lip and seeking Justice not revenge, but in the wake of modern crime sensationalized in the media it's starting to make some people take on a mob mentality reminiscent of all those old westerns where the people take up the cry of "hang him!"

Anyway I find murdering someone for murdering another person is hypocritical and beastial.

So what's your view?
 

fix-the-spade

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Very simple, no.

You can't take back an execution, which is all fine and dandy until you get the wrong person. How do you release someone who's dead?
 

Johnn Johnston

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I personally am against the death penalty. It is inhumane and cruel, no matter who it is directed towards. And if the person gets a life sentence, they have to suffer and think about what they did each day until they die.
 

sirdanrhodes

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I'm pro penalty, ish. I believe that we should take criminals to do a real life to the death counter strike match, and the winners get to go to prison and serve their sentence...
 

Conqueror Kenny

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Johnn Johnston post=18.72690.769357 said:
I personally am against the death penalty. It is inhumane and cruel, no matter who it is directed towards. And if the person gets a life sentence, they have to suffer and think about what they did each day until they die.
Even though the life sentence is only 20 years; and double life is also 20 years, as you serve both at the same time.
But no, I don't agree with the death penalty. But a life sentence should be just that, life.
 

Spartan Bannana

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I support the death penalty in serious cases, such as serial murder and rape, these people don't deserve to live, and if they've kept doing it, they obviously feel no remorse. But I feel there should be a retrial, just to make sure you have the right person.
 

ThePlasmatizer

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Spartan Bannana post=18.72690.769387 said:
I support the death penalty in serious cases, such as serial murder and rape, these people don't deserve to live, and if they've kept doing it, they obviously feel no remorse. But I feel there should be a retrial, just to make sure you have the right person.
A retrial when? if it's close enough to the incident then the result will be the same.

It reminds me of the group of irishmen who were imprisoned for being IRA members and responsible for several IRA bombings, years later it's found out that rogue police officers beat the confessions out of them and submitted them to torture.

If we had executed them, we would have instead had a police spokesperson reading an apology "oops sorry" and clearing their names, it may have helped their families or not, but it doesn't help them if they're dead.
 

Anton P. Nym

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I would support the death sentence more if we didn't keep finding people on death row being exonerated later... it's kinda hard to make restitution for miscarriage of justice to a corpse.

There are some criminals whom I think are just too dangerous to keep alive; the serial killers and hardened gang leaders and multiple-repeat violent offenders, whose tolls over time show that there's no way they can coexist with others without inflicting horrors. But you can't just kill "the ones that need killin'" because that's not really a justice system anymore, it's lynching... so the lesser evil is to institute a real "life" sentence (akin to the Canadian "dangerous offender" status, so the guy ain't never leaving jail without divine intervention in triplicate) and hope for the best.

-- Steve
 

Evilbunny

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One thing I have come to terms with in this world is that thee are some people that just have no souls. People that rape and murder innocent people for no reason other than they are just evil. I have no sympathy for these people because they aren't human, they're monsters. They deserve nothing better than death.
 

Clairaudient

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An eye for an eye.

(Until everyone's blind? No.. those who are truly righteous will have no fear of this)
 

Anton P. Nym

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Clairaudient post=18.72690.769408 said:
An eye for an eye.

(Until everyone's blind? No.. those who are truly righteous will have no fear of this)
Everyone is a sinner. Only the wilfully blind cannot see this... and only the truly criminal discount redemption.

snowplow post=18.72690.769389 said:
Really prisons should be replaced with gulags.
The US had work gangs for prisons... I think some states still do. It didn't work then (the states that used it most ended up being the poorest, and the debate is still hot on whether this is cause or effect) and I doubt it'd work any better now.

Besides, comrade, usually the first to propose gulags end up within them soon after they're going.

-- Steve
 

Zykon TheLich

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fix-the-spade post=18.72690.769355 said:
Very simple, no.

You can't take back an execution, which is all fine and dandy until you get the wrong person. How do you release someone who's dead?
This, exactly this.
 

Decemius

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My opinion is that I think a life wasted in jail is worse then being killed, but that's just me.
 

haruvister

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It's a "No" for me, too. And it's not a question of rehabilitation - even if I knew there was no chance of reformation (although advances in understanding criminal psychology mean that chance will only increase), I would still say "No". Capital punishment acts like a deterrent to serious crime in the same way gun ownership deters trespassing - i.e. it doesn't. It all smacks of self-righteous, Old Testament hypocrisy.
 

Angron

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this will prob come out wrong but...

i am for the death penalty, and tbh i think it should be used over here in england...

BUT, i think it should only be in very serious cases where they are certain they did it.
if someone can see taking someone elses life as an ok thing to do i personally dont think they deserve to live...
 

Father2u

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sirdanrhodes post=18.72690.769381 said:
I'm pro penalty, ish. I believe that we should take criminals to do a real life to the death counter strike match, and the winners get to go to prison and serve their sentence...
That is an awesome idea.