Poll: Death Penalty
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Thats quite a difficult thing to put into precedent. Guilty or not guilty.Angron post=18.72690.769471 said:
If they aren't certain they did it then they shouldn't be found guilty at all. Not, 'well, we reckon he's probably guilty, but we just not quite sure enough to have him killed in case we got it wrong'.
I think the death penalty should be used in place of the Life sentence. Why strain the prison system with inmates who will never get out?
Really I think if your total sentence adds up to more than a lifetime they should just execute you immediately.
And really I don't see why it's needs to be especially humane. I think they should just put you in solitary confinement and fill your cell with carbon monoxide while you're sleeping. Better than strapping them to a table and putting a needle in their arm.
Really I think if your total sentence adds up to more than a lifetime they should just execute you immediately.
And really I don't see why it's needs to be especially humane. I think they should just put you in solitary confinement and fill your cell with carbon monoxide while you're sleeping. Better than strapping them to a table and putting a needle in their arm.
In short, no.
In slightly longer, no because I reckon that prison is worse for a convict since they have to consemplate what they've done.
-Ricky
In slightly longer, no because I reckon that prison is worse for a convict since they have to consemplate what they've done.
-Ricky
I used to be very pro when I was young, but no just no.
The reason why they're banned in first place is because they've killed innocent people far to many times.
It also bring the philosophical point.We're all humans.Who gives one person the right to kill another killer? To quote Nietzsche:
The reason why they're banned in first place is because they've killed innocent people far to many times.
It also bring the philosophical point.We're all humans.Who gives one person the right to kill another killer? To quote Nietzsche:
No, of course not.
People who put yes if this and this, how can you judge? We can't, simple as that. I'm not saying God can, but there are ways we can make sure people can't go out and do more terrible things.
People who have unequivocal yesses, go watch the Green Mile.
People who put yes if this and this, how can you judge? We can't, simple as that. I'm not saying God can, but there are ways we can make sure people can't go out and do more terrible things.
People who have unequivocal yesses, go watch the Green Mile.
If someone is mentally deranged to the degree that they will never be able to regret or repent their crimes(1), nor refrain from committing them again.
It becomes questionable whether forcing them to spend their crimes locked up in a cage, is the humane choice.
(1)Naturally, the crimes would have to be of a certain severity.
It becomes questionable whether forcing them to spend their crimes locked up in a cage, is the humane choice.
(1)Naturally, the crimes would have to be of a certain severity.
Some possible mechanisms;snowplow post=18.72690.769473 said:
- Prison labour isn't driven by the profit motive, and so can be provided at unprofitable rates. This depresses the labour market in the area, and the prices of any goods manufactured at a work camp.
- As a source of cheap labour, it becomes a political plum used to extract favours or support allies... leading to greater corruption.
- The labour provided by convicts isn't of the best quality, necessarily, which leads to a Gresham's Law problem of cruddy-but-cheap products driving out decent-but-expensive ones.
- Access to labour tools means more potential for improvised weaponry in prisons, which makes guarding prisoners more dangerous and therefor more expensive.
That's just what I can remember off the top of my head; I honestly don't know how much each contributes to the problem.
-- Steve
I support life in prison over the death penalty. No matter how small the margin for error is, execution is not worth the risk of being wrong.
Besides, here in the U.S. it's actually less expensive to put some one in jail for the rest of their lives than it is to have them executed.
Add to that the fact that I'd want a murdering bastard to spent the rest of his/her life in chains like an animal, suffering everyday for the rest of their natural lives. Why would you want to put a serial murder out of his misery?
Besides, here in the U.S. it's actually less expensive to put some one in jail for the rest of their lives than it is to have them executed.
Add to that the fact that I'd want a murdering bastard to spent the rest of his/her life in chains like an animal, suffering everyday for the rest of their natural lives. Why would you want to put a serial murder out of his misery?
I would have said I wasn't sure, but Steve here pretty much wrapped up what I think.Anton P. Nym post=18.72690.769404 said:
Another alternative would be (say in the case of a rapist or killer or both) to make them experience the pain and fear that their victim(s) felt and let them live in jail for the rest of their lives knowing how their victim(s) felt, buuut since we don't have the technology to simulate it and I don't approve of torturing killers (except in a few cases such as the moors murderers) I don't see it happening.
Being strongly Christian and knowing that it is not our worldly place to judge, Capital Punishment is a travesty of human endeavor in the name of "justice".
So that justifies killing them?TheNecroswanson post=18.72690.769599 said:
I agree punishment today is too lenient, there needs to be longer prison sentences with more emphasis on prison being a punishment, but still a focus on rehabilition, at the moment prison fails at both of these points.
Have you ever seen the series on prison life a few years back? In maximum security prisons, it's a living hell.TheNecroswanson post=18.72690.769599 said:
How can you honestly believe that there's no misery in prison? Do you think that convicts get up every morning with a bright smile on their collective faces?
"You thought we could be decent men in an indecent time. But you were wrong. The world is cruel, and the only morality in a cruel world is chance. Unbiased. Unprejudiced. Fair."
Go back to victorian prisons.TheNecroswanson post=18.72690.769599 said:
Wake up at 5 am, out into the work room and start turning the wheel. Continue until bedtime. What does this wheel do? Nothing. It just turns. It serves no useful purpose other than to piss you off.
Or shoveling rocks. Take the rock pile from one side of the yard to the other. Then back again. Ad infinitum.