Poll: Dishonored or Xcom
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I doubt that happens "pretty consistent"...it just feels that way when you're on the receiving end of a low percentage shot. But that frustration is part of what makes the game so great...one moment you're feeling terrible because your squad leader just got taken out by a lucky critical hit, but the next minute you get the euphoria of a perfectly executed move by your assault guy to run-and-gun into rapid fire plus close combat specialist to take out a Muton Berseker. In short: there are huge highs and lows in that game, you gotta take the good with the bad.hazabaza1 said:
I've played both and would definitely recommend Xcom. I was quite disappointed with Dishonoured especially given (or perhaps because of) the praise it has received. The AI was bordering on moronic, the bad guys were so comical in their over-the-top evilness that they only just stopped short of walking around in capes twirling their moustaches and the first person viewpoint makes stealth a proper ballache. Xcom on the other hand surpassed my expectations marvelously. If I had to criticise it I'd maybe say that in my view the tech trees weren't extensive enough (only three tiers for squad gear) but that's me just finding fault for the sake of it.
It really depends on which type of game you like more. Do you like strategy or adventure games more? It's hard to break them down by category because they are so different but I'll try:
Story
I give this one to Dishonored because even though it's fairly simple, I really like how the world and characters change throughout due to your actions. XCOM's story is even more simple but I like the individual stories for each of your soldiers that you make yourself.
Graphics
I give this one to Dishonored as well. I love the art style. It looks like you are in a living watercolor painting. The graphics in XCOM were just alright to me. They just seemed pretty bland.
Gameplay
This category really just depends on which genre of game you like more. I personally liked Dishonored's gameplay more but if strategy games are more you cup of tea, you'll like XCOM more. I think Dishonored may have the best first person melee combat in any game I've ever played and pulling off awesome assassinations never really gets old. The game is pretty easy though. XCOM was more challenging and so it was really rewarding to pull through a mission by the skin of my teeth.
Replay Value
This one goes to XCOM for me. Both games demand multiple playthroughs but XCOM seems infinitely replayable to me at the moment.
Overall
I would pick Dishonored over XCOM but both are great and like I've said already, it pretty much comes down to what genre of games you like more.
Story
I give this one to Dishonored because even though it's fairly simple, I really like how the world and characters change throughout due to your actions. XCOM's story is even more simple but I like the individual stories for each of your soldiers that you make yourself.
Graphics
I give this one to Dishonored as well. I love the art style. It looks like you are in a living watercolor painting. The graphics in XCOM were just alright to me. They just seemed pretty bland.
Gameplay
This category really just depends on which genre of game you like more. I personally liked Dishonored's gameplay more but if strategy games are more you cup of tea, you'll like XCOM more. I think Dishonored may have the best first person melee combat in any game I've ever played and pulling off awesome assassinations never really gets old. The game is pretty easy though. XCOM was more challenging and so it was really rewarding to pull through a mission by the skin of my teeth.
Replay Value
This one goes to XCOM for me. Both games demand multiple playthroughs but XCOM seems infinitely replayable to me at the moment.
Overall
I would pick Dishonored over XCOM but both are great and like I've said already, it pretty much comes down to what genre of games you like more.
I own both, and XCOM is much better... Although Dishonored is fun, it loses its glam after a bit. XCOM is just plain awesome, lots of replayability and difficult as hell when you want it to be...
I havent played Xcom, so I cant tell you either way.
I did play Dishonored though, and it was an enjoyable experience. I really only have one gripe with the game, and thats the "Good" or "bad" ending the game implements. Other than that, its a game that will make you think (Sometimes on the fly) before each encounter and how it should be dealt with.
I did play Dishonored though, and it was an enjoyable experience. I really only have one gripe with the game, and thats the "Good" or "bad" ending the game implements. Other than that, its a game that will make you think (Sometimes on the fly) before each encounter and how it should be dealt with.
Dishonored is really, really good, perfectly accomplishing what it set out to do in making a stealth game that encourages creativity and focuses heavily on the setting. However, I played it through once and thought it stood just fine as a singular experience. I loved it, but I have little desire to go back and replay it.
On the other hand, I bought XCOM a week ago and I've already put 60 hours into it. It's easily the best strategy game of last year. Play on Ironman mode. It will make you ragequit, then come back five minutes later and determinedly click "new game". I developed a strange attachment to my squad every time. Winning, after all the shit I'd put them through, was practically euphoric.
Both are absolutely worthy titles, but if you really want your money's worth, get XCOM.
On the other hand, I bought XCOM a week ago and I've already put 60 hours into it. It's easily the best strategy game of last year. Play on Ironman mode. It will make you ragequit, then come back five minutes later and determinedly click "new game". I developed a strange attachment to my squad every time. Winning, after all the shit I'd put them through, was practically euphoric.
Both are absolutely worthy titles, but if you really want your money's worth, get XCOM.
I bought both, have played Dishonored for around an hour, and XCOM for countless hours. XCOM is one of the best strategy games I've played in ages, with the additional challenge of building up your technology and shit. Would recommend to anyone who enjoys strategy titles at all.
I haven't played Dishonored enough to say much. It's a first person stealth based game. Heard its pretty good. I'd go with whichever game type you prefer. if you really have no preference, not sure you should go with either, but I think XCOM will get you more bang for your buck.
I haven't played Dishonored enough to say much. It's a first person stealth based game. Heard its pretty good. I'd go with whichever game type you prefer. if you really have no preference, not sure you should go with either, but I think XCOM will get you more bang for your buck.
I er, I have to confess that I'm finding Dishonoured super boring and irksome. I think it's the non-regenerating mana. Something about that just... I dunno... makes me not want to use it because I don't like relying on finite resources. This is probably rooted in deep-seated abandonment issues or something.
I should probably just throw caution to the wind and just hack everyone up on the level but that just feels like doing it wrong which makes me even more uncomfortable. I'm finding the whole experience troublesome.
XCom has none of those problems. It is like multiple orgasms for men. God only knows how good it is for women.
I should probably just throw caution to the wind and just hack everyone up on the level but that just feels like doing it wrong which makes me even more uncomfortable. I'm finding the whole experience troublesome.
XCom has none of those problems. It is like multiple orgasms for men. God only knows how good it is for women.
It's impossible to compare the two games in terms of quality, as they are two completely different genres. If you want both equally, watch the trailers, and the one that makes you say "I want to play this" the most, you should pick up.
Odd that you should call that pretty consistent, since no Sectoids have ever landed a critical hit on me ever.hazabaza1 said:
Random Number Generators are fun like that.
OT: I say Dishonored between the two choices given, and I've played both games so that should help.
Legend has it that Apple changed the Shuffle feature on their products following calls that it wasn't random enough from customers. The fact being that with a random number generator you can conceiveably get the same result time and time again whereas people carried the expecatation (so the legend goes) that they should be getting different results.Radoh said:
In fairness to Hazababa I do have the same experience with the dice rolls in Blood Bowl. Still love both games though.
They are both good games but of the two I got more enjoyment and play-time out of XCOM. So I'll recommend that one.
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I own both and both as equally good as each other. I've probably spent just as much time playing both too, and they both have a pretty decent amount of replay value, though Dishonored has just a little bit more.
Dishonored plays quite uniquely. Some describe it as first person Assassin's Creed. It's not.
The combat is very similar to Skyrim, clunky and something you want to avoid, but movement is very similar to Mirrors Edge, with fluid parkour. The stealth aspects work out really well too, like Thief and Splinter Cell, and the supernatural powers are what gives the game its identity. Very good game indeed. Despite having done nearly 3 very different playthroughs I'm still finding really abstract yet perfectly functional ways to beat missions.
My only Criticism would be the combat. full-out fighting is not its strong point and the inventory system is a bit lacklustre. Everything you pick up transmutes into coins. Also a small-medium chunk of the game stops offering you consistent multiple paths, and instead turns very linear, but it clears up after those 2-3 areas are over. This only happens for about 2-3 hours, and multiple paths DO still crop up within it, but unlike the rest of the game before and after that section, they aren't consistently there.
Xcom, however, almost feels like a rogue-like. It's not, but it is a very, very good turn-based tactical strategy.
It's a very challenging, very strategic game. It took 3 goes for me to finally win on Normal, and I gave up on Classic. I've sunk tens of hours into it already and it's simply a brilliant turn-based game. The base management is arguably more important than the missions, but without successful missions you won't get the funding for your base. A very intuitive, intricate and clever game where a single playthrough will take up to 100 hours to complete, and then there's no guarantee you'll win a second playthrough just as well, if at all. A very clever and challenging game. It has been excellently streamlined to appeal to modern gamer expectations (maybe a little too far), and it plays superbly, looks great, loads fast and is highly dynamic.
My criticism with Xcom would be the Random Number Generator in harder difficulties, as it seems to be biased in favour of the Aliens. In normal, you'll most likely hit a 50% on the first or second (or if you're unlucky, third) shot, as the law of averages states you should. HOWEVER, in harder difficulties you'll see yourself missing desperate 75% chance shots far more often. It wasn't even until my harder post-completion playthrough I thought you could actually miss a 39% shot consecutively by 3 people across 5 turns. This happens regularly in Classic and Impossible difficulties. Not to mention everything's more expensive, you get less council money, your guys are weaker and less accurate anyway and the aliens are stronger hitting and more accurate. The bugs are a big problem too - both them and the RNG have cost me an Ironman Classic (no-reloads, hard) playthrough. Also, consider yourself lucky if the multiplayer doesn't bug up in your very first match. Watch Total Biscuit vs Angry Joe round 3 of Xcom [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ9QHRWB6p4] for a multiplayer verdict. They were playing on the patch release that's out now.
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Both are worth their reputation's weight and both excel in their represented genres. they both have atmosphere but Xcom is a little buggy. Dishonored has better replay value, but Xcom has better lifelong appeal (it won't start collecting dust, you can always boot it up and get a refreshed experience). If you like longevity and to use your brain more, go for Xcom. If you dislike luck elements or prefer a good storyline, go with Dishonored. If I HAD to choose, I'd say Dishonored, but only because Xcom is still a little buggy. It's still a really hard choice to make.
I own both and both as equally good as each other. I've probably spent just as much time playing both too, and they both have a pretty decent amount of replay value, though Dishonored has just a little bit more.
Dishonored plays quite uniquely. Some describe it as first person Assassin's Creed. It's not.
The combat is very similar to Skyrim, clunky and something you want to avoid, but movement is very similar to Mirrors Edge, with fluid parkour. The stealth aspects work out really well too, like Thief and Splinter Cell, and the supernatural powers are what gives the game its identity. Very good game indeed. Despite having done nearly 3 very different playthroughs I'm still finding really abstract yet perfectly functional ways to beat missions.
My only Criticism would be the combat. full-out fighting is not its strong point and the inventory system is a bit lacklustre. Everything you pick up transmutes into coins. Also a small-medium chunk of the game stops offering you consistent multiple paths, and instead turns very linear, but it clears up after those 2-3 areas are over. This only happens for about 2-3 hours, and multiple paths DO still crop up within it, but unlike the rest of the game before and after that section, they aren't consistently there.
Xcom, however, almost feels like a rogue-like. It's not, but it is a very, very good turn-based tactical strategy.
It's a very challenging, very strategic game. It took 3 goes for me to finally win on Normal, and I gave up on Classic. I've sunk tens of hours into it already and it's simply a brilliant turn-based game. The base management is arguably more important than the missions, but without successful missions you won't get the funding for your base. A very intuitive, intricate and clever game where a single playthrough will take up to 100 hours to complete, and then there's no guarantee you'll win a second playthrough just as well, if at all. A very clever and challenging game. It has been excellently streamlined to appeal to modern gamer expectations (maybe a little too far), and it plays superbly, looks great, loads fast and is highly dynamic.
My criticism with Xcom would be the Random Number Generator in harder difficulties, as it seems to be biased in favour of the Aliens. In normal, you'll most likely hit a 50% on the first or second (or if you're unlucky, third) shot, as the law of averages states you should. HOWEVER, in harder difficulties you'll see yourself missing desperate 75% chance shots far more often. It wasn't even until my harder post-completion playthrough I thought you could actually miss a 39% shot consecutively by 3 people across 5 turns. This happens regularly in Classic and Impossible difficulties. Not to mention everything's more expensive, you get less council money, your guys are weaker and less accurate anyway and the aliens are stronger hitting and more accurate. The bugs are a big problem too - both them and the RNG have cost me an Ironman Classic (no-reloads, hard) playthrough. Also, consider yourself lucky if the multiplayer doesn't bug up in your very first match. Watch Total Biscuit vs Angry Joe round 3 of Xcom [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ9QHRWB6p4] for a multiplayer verdict. They were playing on the patch release that's out now.
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Both are worth their reputation's weight and both excel in their represented genres. they both have atmosphere but Xcom is a little buggy. Dishonored has better replay value, but Xcom has better lifelong appeal (it won't start collecting dust, you can always boot it up and get a refreshed experience). If you like longevity and to use your brain more, go for Xcom. If you dislike luck elements or prefer a good storyline, go with Dishonored. If I HAD to choose, I'd say Dishonored, but only because Xcom is still a little buggy. It's still a really hard choice to make.
KarmaTheAlligator said:
Never used ghost armour, myself. But I found snipers with Squad Sight, Oppertunist and Double-tap a must. And I'd personally recommend having as many satellites up as possible, as that's what brings the money rolling in.
OT: I've only played XCOM myself (and am addicted) but my boyfriend has been playing both. He finished Dishonored with a comment of "Meh. That was OK." When he finished XCOM, he immediately started a new playthrough.
It's worth noting here that my boyfriend is usually an RPG fan, not a strategy fan. He only bought XCOM because he saw me playing it and couldn't stop himself back-seating.
XCOM has several weaknesses I thought would be complete dealbreakers for me, yet it stands as one of my absolute favorite games of 2012 regardless. It's not without its issues -- textbook examples of how to not integrate RNG in your mechanics, people being able to shoot through walls at random intervals, the "sit-in-your-base-and-wait"-approach to getting resources, and more -- but the core game is so well executed and gripping that it doesn't matter. If you have the slightest interest in tactical gameplay, get this game.
Oh, and as a tip: don't ever get in an engagement where your entire squad is in half-cover. Half-cover is shit cover.
As for Dishonored, I haven't played it. I can just say that I recommend XCOM.
Oh, and as a tip: don't ever get in an engagement where your entire squad is in half-cover. Half-cover is shit cover.
As for Dishonored, I haven't played it. I can just say that I recommend XCOM.