Poll: Do people even know who created Tom & Jerry anymore?
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No you see... I knew Tom & Jerry were created by those two artists since I was a child. Everyone in my country did at my age (my country is Italy, by the way). So it kind of baffles me that so many people didn't know it in the USA. Well, perhaps i'm just being naive.Jadak said:
that's part of why people regard it highly, it goes back to a more fearless time in animation, or at least, a more irreverent time (although personally I don't think it's all that much)Daystar Clarion said:
as for knowing who made what, if you'd asked me before I probably would've said Fritz Freling, because I was pretty sure it wasn't Chuck Jones and that's the only other animator I know off the top of my head ¯\(°_o)/¯
Why would 40 year olds care? they were born 30 years too late too y'know. Tom and Jerry was at its best in the 40's and 50's.Ordinaryundone said:
The fact of the matter is that Tom and Jerry was great and remains great to this day, which is why people under the age of 70 care about this cartoon. Chances are, too, that no matter which generation of Tom and Jerry fans were born under they'd agree that the original run during the Golden Age of Animation was the best, and that the modern adaptions are massive piles of shit.
I'm 23 and I grew up watching Tom and Jerry just like my dad did, and his dad did too. If I have kids, you best believe that they'll watch Tom and Jerry too and I'd bet a good chunk of money that they'd love it.
I would say that you are, such knowledge isn't even the sort of thing that's even come close to the sort of knowledge I'd have become aware of at any point, let alone be common. For me (age 23, fyi), Tom and Jerry has absolutely no more significance than any other animated series I had growing up, be it any Looney Toons show, Batman, whatever. I couldn't even begin to guess who made those, and Tom and Jerry is no different. Just another cartoon that one would watch because it happened to be on, and the interest and involvement stopped there. Pretty much no cultural integration beyond that.Madhog said:
Well I never now who creates TV shows. I don't think this is common knowledge tho its pretty sloppy to get it wrong in an article. It?s not like its hard to just look it up.
I always thought it was Fred Quimby as that was the name I always saw before the episode, but obviously I am wrong
But what I do know is that I used to fucking love that show when I was younger, when I watch it now though, I just feel sorry for Tom and realised how much of a psychopathic asshole Jerry is
But what I do know is that I used to fucking love that show when I was younger, when I watch it now though, I just feel sorry for Tom and realised how much of a psychopathic asshole Jerry is
Specifically? No, however I know that they were a part of Hanna Barbera's huge cast of characters.
I had never actually known who the original creators were (although I had a hunch that it would be Hanna-Barbera), so this was quite informative. Hell, all I've really known about Tom & Jerry is that they've been around for years, the older shows are awesome, and most of the newer stuff is crap. Most of the movies that have been made within the last six or seven years or so are really bad in my opinion.
The period directly after Chuck Jones took over was the END of the good Tom and Jerry shows. Even Chuck Jones was pushing it, with his new take on the characters, and his daring new, very art deco style, yet it was notably worse than the previous series. Tom and Jerry pre 60's was probably up there among the best cartoons ever made, it was timelessly funny, magnificently written, lovingly simple, charming, wonderfully and shamelessly violent, and had brilliant music.
I remember watching the modern Tom and Jerry shows, must of came out some time in the 00's. It was complete utter shit, even the children watching it knew how shit it was. I was disgusted with everything in it. The fucking voices, why have voices!? The animation techniques, why change it!? The music, don't even get me started... The new characters? What the fuck are you trying to do!? And each episode had a plot with a moral at the end, telling you to be good, share, don't be violent, make friends, not enemies... fuck that... If you want to preach about that sort of thing, don't use Tom and Jerry as a bloody vessel! They don't need it! There is no equal to the magnificence of the old Tom and Jerry.
Sadly, because of political correctness, and the 'protecting our youth whether we like it or not and if you don't comply we will call you racist, sexist and a freedom hating hippie act', no show will rise to take up Tom and Jerry's mantle... I can say that with complete honesty...
I remember watching the modern Tom and Jerry shows, must of came out some time in the 00's. It was complete utter shit, even the children watching it knew how shit it was. I was disgusted with everything in it. The fucking voices, why have voices!? The animation techniques, why change it!? The music, don't even get me started... The new characters? What the fuck are you trying to do!? And each episode had a plot with a moral at the end, telling you to be good, share, don't be violent, make friends, not enemies... fuck that... If you want to preach about that sort of thing, don't use Tom and Jerry as a bloody vessel! They don't need it! There is no equal to the magnificence of the old Tom and Jerry.
Sadly, because of political correctness, and the 'protecting our youth whether we like it or not and if you don't comply we will call you racist, sexist and a freedom hating hippie act', no show will rise to take up Tom and Jerry's mantle... I can say that with complete honesty...
Hanna-Barbara sort of has two different identities--they made many animated TV cartoons in the 40s and 50s the conventional way, but then in the 60s they started using the cheap/quick method we know them for today. Moviebob did a Big Picture on this method, [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/3854-The-Collar] actually. They basically invented the "flash" method of animating characters in parts rather than redrawing the entire character for every frame. Except back in the 60s they did it with pencils, not Flash ;-) It is obviously and notoriously a much cheaper and, quite frankly, uglier way to animate, but you can't deny the success of their franchises. And there's really no way they could have cranked out the shows like they did had it not been for that method.gigastrike said:
The reason Tom and Jerry was never subjected to that style is because they were put under the direction of Chuck Jones in the 60s. They were still produced by Hanna-Barbara, but Chuck Jones was in charge of their actual creation.
As someone studying animation, you just blew my mind. Holy crap that was awesome. I weep for the cartoons of today, I can only cringe that thought of what something pitched like that would look like today made in Flash. It wouldn't have near as much life in the movement. And they'd never get away with something like snapping at fingers with scissors.The_root_of_all_evil said:
Is that why it had 2 correct answers? To be honest if the poll isn't adding any value, then why add it at all?Madhog said:
Take a breath... collect yourself... and then go do something less mentally damaging than getting worked up over soething so petty as someone misquoting... Not everyone cares about the intricacies of classic cartoons... I'm sorry, but they don't... Just learn to accept it! I dont expect everone in the world to know the difference between Roll, Pitch and Yaw, or to know the difference between a Tornado GR4 and a Tornado F3! If someone gets gets them wrong, I just laugh to myself, and reaffirm my geek status in my own head!
Makes me glad I got the Looney Tunes Golden Collection Box set for Christmas.Daystar Clarion said: