Poll: Do violent video games cause violent behaviour in children and adolescents?

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LordSnakeEyes

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No! If You Even Suggest It EVER Again, I'll Rip Your Ass Off And Feed It To You (Goes back to play some online Halo3 and PWN Sum N00bz!!1!)

Overly aggressive Halo3 Fanboys aside, Violent Video Games really don't make kids violent, if anything it should be considered a release of violent impulses. Although I do fully support not showing something like GTA4 to a 5y/o, that might do something.
 

tehweave

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I think that games can contribute towards violent tendencies in people...
But so can music.
And movies.
And fiction. (books)
And other people.
And how a person grows up as a child.
And where they live.
And who they associate themselves with.
And how their parents treat them.
And how their friends treat them.
And so on.

But by the same token do video games do it more than the others? No. I think its more about the things at the bottom of the list that can force someone to become violent.
 

Ctrl-Alt-Elite

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hrm... adolesant... im 15 i just completed SR2... brb think ill go murder some random ppl...
but srsly people that think that kids will instantly after playing a game like GTA or SR will instantly go out steal a car and try to murder someone are extremly stupid and are mostly overprottecting parents causing more problems than they are fixing. Im not saying it DOESNT put any ideas into there head at all yet very few people would actually put them into action and the ones that do usually have twisted minds anyway and would probably get jailed for something similer later in life even if they hadnt learned it frm a video game. (manhunt for instance... i never knew a plastic bag was such a good weapon for murdering people BUT IM NOT GOING TO GO PUT THAT TO THE TEST AM I!?!!)

Flame over
 

razer17

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no. and i will kill anyone who says they do.

on a slightly more serious note: games don't cause adolescents to become sociopathic/ psychopathic. and that is needed to kill strangers (bad parenting, child abuse could cause under or completely non existing empathy, so that can also cause someone to kill indirectly). it might give ideas to those who have pre-existing or dormant psychological abnormalities, and it might even exacerbate their conditions, but in the same vein anything could set them off. films, music, someone mugging them.
 

breadlord

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Well from a first hand experience (THIS REALLY HAPPENED)
i was at a party with a PS2 and the game GTA: SA. So i though i'd give it a go. So i'm running around shooting things and having fun. Then i eat dinner and go back to it. Only played about 30 minutes. Then we left the party and being the first one out, i have a strong feeling to wanting to smash a window, hot wire the car and drive off.

Then i think to myself, Whoa, hold up *cough* (my name) what do you think your doing. (i came from an alright family, and a good commuinty)
 

lotusflwr

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It all comes down to the old causation vs. correlation thing. Violence-prone individuals gravitate towards violent video games, but the body of violent-video-game players is much, much larger than those violent individuals. I think this applies to other forms of violent media as well (movies/TV/music/etc.) Additionally, one might hypothesize that the very fact that a child is allowed to play such violent video games (or watch violent movies, listen to violent music, read/write/commit violent things without parental or professional intervention) could be a strong indicator of poor parental oversight.

I do think that violent games/media desensitize a person to violence, but I don't necessarily think that's in and of itself 'A Terrible Thing.' Flinching less at violence is a far cry from being mentally conditioned to commit it yourself. I think most serious research into the subject has consistently pointed in these directions, but popular perception takes it out of context and turns observations into judgements.

The problem with popular perception is the news media assumes desensitizing equates to some sort of unleashing of already-heightened violent tendencies or something. But I think even the handful of anecdotal media-hyped occurrences have borne these notions out as exaggerated and flawed once the dust has settled and the sensationalism succumbs to facts and reality.

We survive as a species because our internal mental process meshes well with external societal pressures. Human societies and then humanity itself would have died out a very long time ago if being surrounded by or even committing significant amounts of violence led to some irrevocable or permanent flipping of a violent switch in everyone, or a majority of people, or even a significant minority. People do break under very stressful situations, but their reaction has a lot more to do with their own personal, physical & cognitive development than the external stimulus.
 

lotusflwr

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breadlord said:
Well from a first hand experience (THIS REALLY HAPPENED)
i was at a party with a PS2 and the game GTA: SA. So i though i'd give it a go. So i'm running around shooting things and having fun. Then i eat dinner and go back to it. Only played about 30 minutes. Then we left the party and being the first one out, i have a strong feeling to wanting to smash a window, hot wire the car and drive off.

Then i think to myself, Whoa, hold up *cough* (my name) what do you think your doing. (i came from an alright family, and a good commuinty)
There's no denying that great games can do this (and I'd argue that my definition of a great game would be one this immersive) but does this type of immersion affect your long-term behavior or cognitive processes? You said yourself you didn't go through with it, and I'm thinking that most people haven't gone through with their impulses either (cosplay aside, hehe.)

I'd love to see some research addressing the effects of immersive games or environments on how people act; I'm thinking that'd be some truly revealing info.
 

Lamnidae

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As long as people are fighting and blaming each other...
They have us all drawn away from the real deal...
Blame gaming for deaths! Blame the holy books for deaths! Blame sexual preferences for the doom of our world!
Blame anything for death...
But not what they are doing everyday... Making wars and pointing fingers...
Not what our government are showering upon our shoulders and over our heads...
Violent people learn from the excessive violence and corruption of their superiors...

If someone does something violent to another it's because of a violence that's in 'the/it's breed' or it's because of the way a person might be forced into certain emotional or financial corners that it really really really doesn't want to be pushed in...

So who blames the games doesn't know anything about anthropology, psychology, gaming and the histories of humanity...
 

WinkyTheGreat

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Short Answer: Probably not.

Long Answer: There is research available that says yes. People who are more violent are probably just more attracted to violent video games. Saying video games cause violence is like saying Ice Cream sales cause murder rates to increase. There is a third variable to the equation in both cases (heat has been shown to increase murderous behavior. When the temperature rises, Ice cream sales rise). There is a correlation. This does not mean causation.
 

Cortheya

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NONONONONONONONONONO it does not.....Jack Thompson created this propaganda that video games cause violent behavior in order to rule the world with his army of midgets!!! (Ooo im adding this to the conspiracy theory thread
 

PrototypeC

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How dare you question whether video games are related to violence?! When I'm done humping this corpse in teh Haloz I'm coming after you with a shaving razor.

In all seriousness now, kids, I'm going to have to say: short answer, no. Long answer, probably. Video games don't create violence, but they can give already dangerous f***ers lots of good ideas. These already messed-up guys and gals gravitate to games where violence is the main goal, i.e. 99% of all the video games ever made. It's the level of violence that makes a difference. You'll note there's a big buggering difference between the original Mario Brothers and Manhunt 2. I'd be remiss if I didn't also add that as video game graphics get better, the amount of very well-animated gore-fests are going to go up and up.

One of my friends is related to a murderer. I got a chance to look at the stuff he had been doing in his spare time before the big event... there was a pattern in the music he listened to and the video games he played. That's all I'm going to say about that.
 

PrototypeC

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Two things... one, a few people beat me to the punch when it comes to threatening the OP here with violence. Two, if anyone doesn't yet know and care to know Yahtzee's opinion, watch the ZP Manhunt segment.
 

paragon1

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And now for an excerpt from my new play:
Person A: You know what, I think video games cause violent behavior. Know what that means?

Person B: What?

Person A: THEY'RE BANNED!!

Person B: What about other violent media, like movies?

Person A: BANNED!!

Person B: Music?

Person A: BANNED!!

Person B: Sports?

Person A: BANNED!!

Person B: Comic books?

Person A: BANNED!!

Person B: How about normal books?

Person A: BANNED!!

Person B: What about the Bible?

Person A: BANNED!!

Person B: Plays?

Person A: BANNED!!

Person B: But we're in a...

(The ban comes into effect, and Persons A and B's fictional world collapses in a fiery hellstorm of nothingness)
 

Cobra Dude

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Well I do not think that video games causes violence but I could be wrong.

That reminds me of this Video Games Live concert that was in my area.

Tommy Tallarico (the head honcho of the show) said "people say that 'video games make people violent.' do you beleive that?" and the whole crowd said "no" basicly at the same time, but then Tommy was suddenly laughing and said "this guy up here in the front row said 'we should kill thoes people!'" XD
 

closertorickman

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I was talking about this in Sociology the other day while studying Crime and Deviance. There's only two of us in the class who play games, and I'm the only one who plays FPS. Needless to say the whole class (and my teacher) said that violent games make people violent. I said, I've played GTA since I was 7 (when it came out) and I've not gone round mental and killing people. It makes me think of the Penny Arcade strip when Tycho and Gabe are queueing for something and one of them mentions they are a Grand Theft Auto player, and everyone steps aside. It's just the whole of society going into moral panic, I think.
 

Earthbound Engineer

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tehweave said:
I think that games can contribute towards violent tendencies in people...
But so can music.
And movies.
And fiction. (books)
And other people.
And how a person grows up as a child.
And where they live.
And who they associate themselves with.
And how their parents treat them.
And how their friends treat them.
And so on.

But by the same token do video games do it more than the others? No. I think its more about the things at the bottom of the list that can force someone to become violent.
Maybe some of that is true, but there is no evidence that the media affects a person's behavior. As a matter of fact, you should look up a good ole lawyer named Jack Thompson and look up the reason for his disbarment. And where they live really isn't relevant. People don't join gangs and perform other criminal acts because they live in a bad neighborhood, it's usually because they associate themselves with the people that live there that make that neighborhood bad in the first place....and those people are bad for another reason. It's a big cycle. Neighborhoods aren't just bad, people make them bad. The fact that you live in a bad neighborhood doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to be bad, but if you are, it's not just because you lived there in the first place, it's because you choose to be that way.
 

scotth266

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Violent games only cause violent behavior when combined with bad parenting or mental illness.
Ah, someone beat me to it. Bad parenting: it's the main cause of violence in children.