Poll: Do you agree with the Black Ops Swastika Ban?

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

You can ban the symbol but you can't ban the ideals it represents.

 

[slipknot4]

Know what?!
I am going to quote one of my Facebook statuses!
Give me a minute...

Fuck people that are offended, the world doesn't stop spinning because your feelings get hurt. In fact, I'm offended that you're offended! There, someone compensate me for my trauma!

If people want a Swastika on their weapon. Let them have it and if someone get's offended... well, they should realize that world war 2 was 70 years ago and that the only ones whom are using the symbol today are Buddhists... [color= FFFFFF]and some neo-Nazis but that's just because they need something to offend people with... Fuck it's an evil circle.[/color]

 

[nin_ninja]

I don't agree with the ban of swastikas, you can see them in the history channels 24/7 (at least in Germany) and that's better? You tell me little children can watch documentaries about WWII and see those swastikas, but when swastikas are put into a game (for over 18 year olds) they turn them in Nazis or something?

Yea right...

mfG diebane

Those were in context though. This is just people trying to get a rise out of others.

 

[scar_47]

yes I agree with it, the majority of the people using it are doing it to be offensive. I don't really see the whole double standard argument the zombies actually are nazi's where as the other just involves people being asses. I think they need to crack down on the penis emblems too. And a symbol is not protected under free speech.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I can think of roughly a billion things more offensive than the Swastika. Fuck the ban.

 

[JAWZxZ]

I'm in support of the ban just to stop people ranting at others with swastika emblems. I'm sick of all the butthurt over this and I just want everyone to stfu and play the game.

 

[slipknot4]

Are you seriously saying that you look at a Swastika and think, "Hm. Symbol in some Eastern religions."? Of course you don't. Practically globally that symbol is the symbol of the Nazis. It may have meant something else before or since, but its use has been dominated by the horrible crimes and effect on humanity by Nazi Germany under Hitler. The same way if I was named "Adolf" I'd have a gigantic stigma against my name, for the simple reason it is associated with the horrible events of the mid-Twentieth century.

You can't be serious. People view things with different perspective.
Hell, I've got 3 friends whom are named Adolf and I couldn't care less about it.
If we don't move on and live our lives as normal we'll never forget about what happened 70 years ago. I say; Drop the censor. The more we see of it the less we care.

And no, I don't associate the Swastika with Nazis. You do.

By the way, I mean no offence, but. It's a matter of perspective. Sorry if I sounded harsh.

 

[Choppaduel]

If you ban the swastika, then you also have to ban the hammer and sickle, no if's, ands or buts. Double standards much?

Indeed. Strictly numbers wise Stalin and his Solviet Union were far more brutal on people than the Nazi's were. (also less efficient) But he killed his own people, and were sort of fine with that (somehow) but the minute you kill people next door we won't stand for that now will we. (Thats a retelling of a joke by Eddie Izzard)

 

[Da pyro man 999]

Y'know. When i heard that you could customise your emblem in black ops, i knew what to expect. Penises, boobs,vaginas ect, but i didn' think that anyone would use a swastika.

 

[Octorok]

Are you seriously saying that you look at a Swastika and think, "Hm. Symbol in some Eastern religions."? Of course you don't. Practically globally that symbol is the symbol of the Nazis. It may have meant something else before or since, but its use has been dominated by the horrible crimes and effect on humanity by Nazi Germany under Hitler. The same way if I was named "Adolf" I'd have a gigantic stigma against my name, for the simple reason it is associated with the horrible events of the mid-Twentieth century.

You can't be serious. People view things with different perspective.
Hell, I've got 3 friends whom are named Adolf and I couldn't care less about it.
If we don't move on and live our lives as normal we'll never forget about what happened 70 years ago. I say; Drop the censor. The more we see of it the less we care.

And no, I don't associate the Swastika with Nazis. You do.

I find it hard to take you seriously when you're trying to accuse of being wrong and alone in associating the Swastika with the Nazi party.

I'm not debating this any longer. If you fail to see the connection between the Swastika and fucking Nazis then I'm afraid you are delusional.

 

[mr_rubino]

I just feel bad for any Hindus or Buddhists who try to play the game and make his symbol a Manji.

I disagree with the ban. Surely, the developers had to have known someone would do it the second the made it possible, because when people can be anonymous, often times they act as offensively as possible. I wish I could agree with this ban though. God forbid people behave like adults.

X-Box Live is full of dicks though, as many emblems point out. How many dick emblems have killed you guys today? My buddies got 27 already.

Asia doesn't play the Xbox, as a rule.

The unfortunate thing is that anyone who made the swastika symbol is doing it because of the Nazi's, not the Hindu's. It's known that it's the Hindu sign for peace and the Nazi's took it and changed it so now, 99% of people see it as the Nazi hate symbol.

Little kids who think they're cool by putting the swastika there are doing it because of Nazism, not Hinduism.

Pretty much the perfect post. Yes, we know that the symbol meant something 5000 years ago in Hinduddhism. But in the real world, it means "Nazi". ...Actually, in the real world, it means "Stupid 12 year old trying to be edgy."
(I'm glad we can't even decide which religion it's from. "The swastika meant something good! I don't exactly remember what culture, but it totally did! There is absolutely any good reason why someone could theoretically have a swastika avatar! I swear I'm not a troll!")

 

[Thaius]

Honestly, putting it in the game in the first place was just stupid. I'm all for the ban.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

its a mature game. you have got to be fucking kidding me if you ban it. simple enough.

 

[Dogstile]

Dick emblems are a bigger problem, to be honest.

 

[Tom. The Taxidermist =]]

I'm all for it.
From experience, the people who have that symbol tends to be some douche growing his first mustache, giggling into the microphone about his readings on Wikipedia that it's the Buddhist symbol.
FYI, prepubescent fuck on XBL: The Buddhist symbol wasn't in the center of a white circle, surrounded by a red border. Read a damn history book and show some fucking consideration.

 

[MagnetoHydroDynamics]

Now the thing about swastika's is that they are a religious symbol. And they have been so for A VERY EFFING LONG TIME, GUYS. Just because some twisted Germans in the 1930-40's thought that their rule would last a thousand years and adopted the sign, everybody think that the Nazis invented it.

There are generally two kinds of swastikas. The one the Nazis used and the other one.

This is the one you should never ever ever ever ban, lest you want anyone who cares to come down on you like a ton of bricks.

This one is not so bad either, although kinda sketchy:

Spoiler: Not a miniature like the other one, couldn't find one :)

But, rotate the latter 45 degrees and encircle it in red and you've got it.

Spoiler: Here it is, the mofo

 

[C95J]

sure it is bad that people are doing that, but people are also drawing deer having sex with pigs, and many other stuff like that. Of course it is bad but if they ban that then they should ban all the other things as well. It is just people being immature that's all.

 

[SomethingUnrelated]

Though the swastika has origins far more noble than Nazi Germany, that, under the guise of trolling, is undoubtedly going to the reason behind the majority of the use of the emblem.

 

[Daniel Zinderman]

The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix.

Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.

Even in the early twentieth century, the swastika was still a symbol with positive connotations. For instance, the swastika was a common decoration that often adorned cigarette cases, postcards, coins, and buildings. During World War I, the swastika could even be found on the shoulder patches of the American 45th Division and on the Finnish air force until after World War II.

Personally, There is nothing wrong with using it as a symbol. Its not even Jewish people who are offended. Its nonconvertible people who have not experienced the world.. and so be it, thus is life itself.

I'm Jewish and I really don't care, Free speech is more important then a symbol.

 

[Ascarus]

No, it's called free speech, bitches.

While that is arguable, Microsoft owns XBL and are thus those who make the rules on it. I don't think free speech can/should be implemented when we're talking things that are privately owned.

end of story. your freedoms are not being impacted here. you agree to terms and conditions set forth by the owner of the product.

deal with that or quit.