Not really, 3 dimensional and less linear. Now if we are talking games being hard for the wrong reasons, like controls...still games out there difficult for that reason...golden axe for instance. And besides, thats why difficulty settings were created, right?
Poll: Do you believe games today are too easy?
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I won't.danpascooch said:
I remember the NES and how hard the games were. How frustratingly hard. And I never felt "good" or "accomplished" for beating them if they were hard. Instead I felt that "i'm glad thats over with".
This "Sense of accomplishment for beating a ridiculously hard situation" is nonsense... otherwise we'd all have given up gaming years ago and pursued something that is a REAL challenge.. like sports and dating chicks and developing rock hard, noticeable abs.
Truth is, even at their most unfairly difficult, games are much easier than coping with real life. And most importantly, games scale.
What I have noticed is, some games today frustrate the hell out of me with how hard they are, even though others claim they aren't difficult. Fighting my way through Valkyria Chronicles was taxing and probably gave me an ulcer.. the last few battles especially didn't feel like the game was increasing the challenge, just increasing the bullshit, where the enemy actions arbitrarily adapted to every strategy while I was thrust into combat with a group of characters who had incorrectly been assumed to be "ass kickers extraordinaire".
It robbed the game of fun to me, to suddenly have the difficulty pointlessly ramped up to "Insane" by simply making the situation artificially unfair.
And yet, as these games are deemed "Easy" by some of us nowadays, the evidence that it is actually I who have improved as a gamer seems evident to me based on when I go back to play classics.
For example, when I was a kid, the Dam Level on TMNT the Game was preposterously hard, as well as the levels following that.
A few months ago, I went back and played the game again, feeling the nostalgia for the old turtles games, and I think I beat the game with almost laughable ease. I was shocked, because I couldn't believe how simplistic the game was and how easy it was to beat it when as a kid I could barely survive the first level with more than one living turtle that wasnt on life-support.
I guess as I got older, my ability to adapt and react in games has sharpened like any skill does with practice and now those old NES classics that made me a nervous wreck seem like a damn cakewalk.
I read up to "I wont"HyenaThePirate said:
good for you
I'd love to read the rest, but I'm not sure I'll even make it to my bed before collapsing dead from exhaustion.
EDIT: So true, you sir have inspired me to develop rock hard abs! That is, if I even have abs, everybody has abs right? oh no! I can't find them, I CAN'T FIND THEM!
I still think it all depends on how you play the game and the difficulty setting.
And other times, I think that a lot of games coming out these days are more focused on the experience as a whole rather than the old days of yore in regards to overcoming difficulty. Thats a paradigm shift overall in the change of how Video Games are seen as media. But again... its all how you play.
Difficulty settings, simply challenging yourself. Achievements are there (on most new games) to make you think and play the game in a way that you wouldnt think of or to encourage doing something challenging. Gamerscore has become that new High Score engraved (practically) on the old arcade games of yore.
I like hard games for the sake of the challenge. Though I do think that games are changed by the developers to allow a broader audience to experience their craft- this, though, does not mean that the games lose their difficulty to them.
Take Call of Duty WaW... that game is playable to the end and a nice, fun experience to it. But there are levels on Veteran that... that game fucking cheats! Im still trying to get through it on Vet. I barely made through both MWs on vet. But thats not just FPS games either...
And other times, I think that a lot of games coming out these days are more focused on the experience as a whole rather than the old days of yore in regards to overcoming difficulty. Thats a paradigm shift overall in the change of how Video Games are seen as media. But again... its all how you play.
Difficulty settings, simply challenging yourself. Achievements are there (on most new games) to make you think and play the game in a way that you wouldnt think of or to encourage doing something challenging. Gamerscore has become that new High Score engraved (practically) on the old arcade games of yore.
I like hard games for the sake of the challenge. Though I do think that games are changed by the developers to allow a broader audience to experience their craft- this, though, does not mean that the games lose their difficulty to them.
Take Call of Duty WaW... that game is playable to the end and a nice, fun experience to it. But there are levels on Veteran that... that game fucking cheats! Im still trying to get through it on Vet. I barely made through both MWs on vet. But thats not just FPS games either...
For those of you that think games today are too hard...practice more. I haven't played a game these days that I wasn't able to beat. Whereas back in the day they were insanely difficult.
Games today are made to be beaten, because the majority of gamers get pissed off when they can't beat a game and then won't play it. They want something that is just challenging enough, so they can work their way through the stories and gameplays without crying and needing a walkthrough every 5 mins.
I'm not saying this is good or bad it just is what it is. Personally I think the majority of games today are too easy, although there are RARE exceptions. And I mean extremely rare.
Multiplayer is another story obviously.
Games today are made to be beaten, because the majority of gamers get pissed off when they can't beat a game and then won't play it. They want something that is just challenging enough, so they can work their way through the stories and gameplays without crying and needing a walkthrough every 5 mins.
I'm not saying this is good or bad it just is what it is. Personally I think the majority of games today are too easy, although there are RARE exceptions. And I mean extremely rare.
Multiplayer is another story obviously.
Yes, but I might change my opinion after I play Demon's Souls.
Oh, Wait, wikipedia says PS3 exclusive, that means I won't get to play it. Too bad.
Oh, Wait, wikipedia says PS3 exclusive, that means I won't get to play it. Too bad.
Make a game too hard, then you loose interest to a lot of players.
Then again, there is difficulty... But still, I'm one of those people who play through on easy, feel my manliness grow, switch to medium and get bored after a couple minutes and then switch to L4D.
Honestly, the only game I ever played through more then twice on different difficulties was Black on the first Xbox. Hard was hardest (no pun), Black Ops was silly easy because you unlock unlimited ammo after finishing hard anyway! T'was silly.
Then again, there is difficulty... But still, I'm one of those people who play through on easy, feel my manliness grow, switch to medium and get bored after a couple minutes and then switch to L4D.
Honestly, the only game I ever played through more then twice on different difficulties was Black on the first Xbox. Hard was hardest (no pun), Black Ops was silly easy because you unlock unlimited ammo after finishing hard anyway! T'was silly.
what I meant was that if you are gonna ask the hardness quistion you need to see the difference between hardness and unfairnessGlademaster said:
Imagine if they combined realism expert/campaign mode with versus in l4d2, would require the most dedication,teamwork,skill,communication and reflexive actions ever.
For those who haven't played l4d2, expert is the hardest difficulty,where zombies do around 10 times as much damage then on normal,realism means:no respawning,no outlines on teammates and items, and zombies take alot more bodyshots.Versus means the boss zombies are controlled by human players, now imagine the hardest boss battle you ever fought, imagine a human player was controlling it.
For those who haven't played l4d2, expert is the hardest difficulty,where zombies do around 10 times as much damage then on normal,realism means:no respawning,no outlines on teammates and items, and zombies take alot more bodyshots.Versus means the boss zombies are controlled by human players, now imagine the hardest boss battle you ever fought, imagine a human player was controlling it.
