Poll: Do you believe in ghosts?

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LordOmnit

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Although you are correct about cyborg implying fleshy parts, I still doubt that a bunch of middle-aged and older politicians from B.C. times to be able to defeat a cyborg-alien. And I'm pretty sure that they'd be taken off guard by a (seemingly) living and moving metal.
 

Geoffrey42

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I don't think "cyborg" means what you think it means.

At least not to the extent that you seem to think.
 

Carbon016

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I carry a vacuum on my back and chant "Mariooooooooo? Marioooooo?" whenever I've got a bad vibe.
 

LordOmnit

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Well, if cyborg doesn't mean a living thing with mechanical things that also move as a part of it then your right, I don't know what a cyborg is. (This, of course, is a very vague definition, so don't take it without a grain or two of salt.)
 

Geoffrey42

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LordOmnit said:
Well, if cyborg doesn't mean a living thing with mechanical things that also move as a part of it then your right, I don't know what a cyborg is. (This, of course, is a very vague definition, so don't take it without a grain or two of salt.)
Depending on your definition, someone with a cochlear implant could qualify as a cyborg. Biological organism + electronic or mechanical doodad built in = cyborg.

If Caesar had a cochlear implant, or mechanical eye replacements, or any variety of bionic pieces, he could easily have been stabbed to death and no one would have been the wiser, as there would still be blood, and he would still die of knife wounds. Heck, give him a positronic brain. Still cyborg, still likely to go unnoticed by the people stabbing him to death, mourning his dead body, and cremating him.

Wikipedia claims that even Humanoid Cylons might qualify as Cyborgs, depending on how you define it, and the only way you tell them apart from humans is with a blood test.
 

Easykill

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I think I would have preferred the religiosity debate to this. I mean, if someone ever asks me for the definition of a nerd, I can just come here and show them a bunch of people having a debate over what the definition of a cyborg is after someones offhand, and sarcastic, remark.
 

Geoffrey42

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Easykill said:
....I think I would have preferred the religiosity debate to this. I mean, if someone ever asks me for the definition of a nerd, I can just come here and show them a bunch of people having a debate over what the definition of a cyborg is after someones offhand, and sarcastic, remark.
If you actually weren't annoyed by the "debate over what the definition of a cyborg is" and were being more sarcastic/humorous than annoyed, and I misread you, you can disregard most of the following. Or at least, add more sarcasm than would be intended if you had been serious to start with:

I didn't take GrowlersAtSea's original comment to be sarcastic, but instead an entirely relevant, valid point. Anyone actually trying to disprove GrowlersAtSea's point by arguing that the premise of his hypothetical is flawed on the basis of the use of the term "cyborg" is either trying to be funny, or being a sore loser. In either case, they're incorrect, as far as I can tell, about what a cyborg is, and what it would imply if Julius Caesar were a cyborg.

In any case, either my sarcasm detector is completely busted, or you're being a killjoy. Besides, the debate isn't really over what a cyborg is (as I was merely pointing out a related point about the misuse of the term cyborg in the larger discussion). Instead, thus far, the debate I've been paying attention to is centered around the validity of certain (il)logical methods for supporting the existence of the supernatural, as an offshoot of the overall discussion around the existence of ghosts.

I also take offense at the term "nerd." At least "geek" has some positive connotations within the community.
 

Easykill

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Sorry, I wasnt being serious but yeah, it does look like it now that I read it again.
 

stompy

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On Topic: I don;t believe in ghosts. I believe that South Park pretty much summed it up, along these lines: "When I die, I don't want to be some floating blob who talks to this douchebag (refering to some TV presenter)".

Off Topic (the cyborg thing): From what I gather from this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborg], I believe a cyborg is an organism which is at least 40% mechanical (just a rough estimate), so, no, guys with pace-makers aren't cyborgs. These mechanical bits also give the cyborg a massive advantage over its human counterpart.
 

scoHish

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I guess it depends on the number of hours of sleep I've had over the past couple days. If im running on 10 hours over a 3 day streak, I'm bound to think anything exsists...
 

Spinwhiz

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I'd have to say no, but the thought sort of freaks me out and some of my friends have experienced some really strange things. The only thing I believe in that I can't see is God.
 

tiredinnuendo

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If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times.

When you're going to commit forum necromancy, especially on a gaming forum, you have to say:

RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE

like that. Otherwise you'll look like a jackass.

- J
 

LOOY

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Okey i don't know if anyones already posted something similar to this but here go's:

There probably arn't ghosts.

Reasons why:
The imags our eyes see and the sounds our ears hear are interpreted by our brain, this means that they are not always 100% accurate. When a sound is especially quite or an image is particually dark or blurry, our brain fills in the gaps with guess work. For example, tree's scraping the window in another room at night may be too quiet to interpret properly, and your brain may "guess" that this is another similar sound such as your own name.

This explanation can be applied to most ghost sightings, that or it was aliens.
 

soul_rune1984

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Yes. I believe in them. Why? I have had lot's of experiences with them. Ghosts don't hang out in grave yards they tend to hang around objects, places or people who held great meaning to them and hauntings can be triggered by an array of things eg. placing a painting on a certain wall might piss of a dormant energy. My grandmother's house for example seems not to like me and likes to mess with my head examples, radios, tv, computers will turn on and off by themselves with the volume full blast, my aunt used to collect dolls, who liked to turn there heads and wink at me, rocking chairs will rock by themselves. When I'm at my friends, a particularly playful entity will toss plushies at me, flicker the lights when we are trying to draw and other fun natured stuff. My deceased cousin will visit me by playing the song "Here Comes the Sun" either on the radio (interrupting the song currently playing) or on a music box I had bought shortly before we got news of her passing.
 

Candoli

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soul_rune1984 said:
Yes. I believe in them. Why? I have had lot's of experiences with them. Ghosts don't hang out in grave yards they tend to hang around objects, places or people who held great meaning to them and hauntings can be triggered by an array of things eg. placing a painting on a certain wall might piss of a dormant energy. My grandmother's house for example seems not to like me and likes to mess with my head examples, radios, tv, computers will turn on and off by themselves with the volume full blast, my aunt used to collect dolls, who liked to turn there heads and wink at me, rocking chairs will rock by themselves. When I'm at my friends, a particularly playful entity will toss plushies at me, flicker the lights when we are trying to draw and other fun natured stuff. My deceased cousin will visit me by playing the song "Here Comes the Sun" either on the radio (interrupting the song currently playing) or on a music box I had bought shortly before we got news of her passing.
Sounds like schizophrenia or another delusional or halluciogenic mental disorder, if your moods rapidly change this might be the answer. But to be less vulgar, I have always wanted ghosts to exist the same way I want zombies to walk to earth and the same way I want't to lick and suck Bruce Campbells chin, it would be nice but it's just not gonna happen. Now im not saying I don't think ghosts exist, I am rather agnostic, im not dead yet so these things remain a mystery.

But I tend to wonder about these excessive stories, I mean peoples encounters with ghosts or spirits vary from "I think I saw something in that window" to what you seem to be experiencing, the only thing that bugs me are the details. The details are rarely explained and of course the beleiver cannot be arsed to care about details, beleif does not lie in analysis. Well im going off on a strange tangent here with no purpose really so what I would want to ask you in sincere beleif in that this actually happened to you, werent you shitscared?
 

Raikone

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I know ghosts are real i have a sort of.... friend who is a ghost. I can't see him but i can hear him, he can't move physical objects but he can semi posses people by this i mean he can't make you do crazy things like jump off a bridge but say you were thinking of doing something he can push you into doing it.

I am not crazy.
 

AnGeL.SLayer

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No. A major NO. Those stupid ghost hunter shows make me very very angry. Enough to kick a small puppy. Seriously and I don't just go around kicking small puppies either.


^_^
 

Natural Hazard

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no, its more than likely that "ghosts" are infact demonic, which is more viable than some lame ghost rubbish, that being said i am skeptical even about demons ands the likes.