I honestly don't care, if there is great if there isn't i wont actually know it, ergo theres not much reason to bother thinking about it. I dont believe there is any real reason for us to know, bar curiosity. besides if it does exist i doubt it will be all fuzzy bunnies and flowers unless were going the religious route, and in that case well you know how thats going to turn out.
Poll: Do you believe in the afterlife?
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This is something I've thought about in the past, and have come to no conclusion yet. I'm not religious, but I'm not ruling out anything that could possibly exist after death. I think the only way any of us will truly find out, is indeed, once we die.
As an Physicalist [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicalism] I don't see any reason to believe in an afterlife.
Hey I'd like to keep on existing as much as the next guy, but I just don't see how it would be possible. Not to mention the total lack of evidence. And that most afterlives come with some sort of religion attached to it.
Hey I'd like to keep on existing as much as the next guy, but I just don't see how it would be possible. Not to mention the total lack of evidence. And that most afterlives come with some sort of religion attached to it.
right now to my understanding living being have an unknown energy within them now since matter cannot be destroyed what happens when the energy leaves then body when the body fails i believe that the energy disperses and eventually gets absorbed into a new lifeform causing reicarnation that my thought anyway i'm no master scientist nor do i follow and specific religion so that's about as deep as i go
Do I believe in and afterlife? no, without evidence it would be delusional to believe in one
Is it possible that there is an afterlife? of course, I don't see any logical impossibility for such a thing, though this sort of hinges on a standard definition of life. But there is also no logical impossibility if someone claims that there is a tiny teapot out in space so small that we can't and never will be able to perceive it.
Is it possible that there is an afterlife? of course, I don't see any logical impossibility for such a thing, though this sort of hinges on a standard definition of life. But there is also no logical impossibility if someone claims that there is a tiny teapot out in space so small that we can't and never will be able to perceive it.
it is impossible to prove god does not exist and unless god shows up it's impossible to prove god exists so arguing evidence is not going to get to anywhere since if there is an all mighty being that made everything it could easily avoid detection and if there isn't then people can just say it's hiding on another plane of existence or somethingWieke said:
btw this isn't target directly at you, you just got this idea to pop in my head
No, because I tend to recognize that more often than not, most of the described afterlives created throughout human history have been little more than glorified attempts to deny the fact that death ultimately means that our conscience experiences in reality will forever be gone when our brain finally ceases to function.
Not that I blame people for wishing to deny that simple truth for sake of feeling part of something "bigger" in terms of reality(s), but really. However, I do consider the possibility of something vaguely in line with the most common forms of afterlife descriptions existing, of course. In the end, though, it just doesn't concern me as much as living this life.
Not that I blame people for wishing to deny that simple truth for sake of feeling part of something "bigger" in terms of reality(s), but really. However, I do consider the possibility of something vaguely in line with the most common forms of afterlife descriptions existing, of course. In the end, though, it just doesn't concern me as much as living this life.
Really, the closest afterlife I've come to believing in was the Oblivion/Aetherius. Seriously. Honestly, I only got that 'close' because of how awesome it would be. I have, however, never actually believed in any afterlife, and I see not reason to at all.
However, Occam's razor makes a God seem very implausible. Basically, the less assumptions you have to make to form a theory, the more likely it is to be true. However, why WOULD God hide? Why not show itself and convince atheists?tjcross said:
That said, I believe the same thing happens when we die as before we were born. How'd that feel? Well, absolutely nothing. I see no evidence or reason behind an afterlife, so my belief is that there is none.
Occam's Razor is a human theory. And humans are ultimately flawed, while God is perfect. Thus you can't apply Ocam's Razor on the theory of there being a God or not. Which is a contradiction in itself, what shows that the theory can't be used. And that might actually be a paradox.Spectral Dragon said:
Hmmm, I have to think more carefully about this.
And to answer ALL questions: God moves in mysterious ways.
FYI, I hate that answer. It's an easy way out of every discussion.
huh alot of people seem to be taking the asshole way of saying they don't believe in the afterlife or atleast being very harsh with a word structure that is made to make those who do believe in some form of spiritual existence to equal not being able to cope with their beliefs (like massive geek up their) honestly it's unnecessary when talking about beliefs and the main thing about a true belief is that no amount of arguing or bullying will change it
The afterlife is different for everyone or doesn't exist at all. For me, personally when I die the portion of my Whole Soul that uses this old flesh to get around will return to the Whole Soul with it's experiences, which will contribute to the growth and evolution of the Whole Soul and another portion of it will inhabit another body, repeating the process of growth into infinity.
simple god doesn't care if you think about it why would an almighty being care about one insignificant race when he is making an entire plane of existence, not only that but if that race found him they would constantly bug him for every whim they desire and thus he would have to hide again or more likely kill them all. an example would be if you had 1000 ant farms would you care if one was trying to break out and if it did break out wouldn't you just grab the ant traps and kill them all.Spectral Dragon said:
You can't have a rational discussion about believes, when believes in itself is irrational*. People simply believe or do not believe. Those who do not believe can more easily discuss this and maybe throw science facts at each other.tjcross said:
However this thread is not about trying to change the minds of people, but rather explain what those people are feeling.
* And to clarify, being irrational is not the same as being wrong.
No, I'm an Atheist along with what appears to be the majority of forum users here. How does this affect my actions in what I believe to be my only life? Well, it makes me very afriad of death and wishing that I can prolong my life for as long as possible, but other than that it doesn't, it's rather a liberating sensation not to be bound by any obligation to dogma or any so called 'inherent' morality and simply live how I choose to.
On an unrelated note: Huzzah! I've achieved 5000 posts!
On an unrelated note: Huzzah! I've achieved 5000 posts!
i understand and was trying to say the first paragraph of what you said (which you did a much clearer job saying and thank you for doing so) all I'm saying is people don't have to be jerks about their beliefs and am trying to get some people to reconsider what they are going to say to paraphrase massivegeek4RM3D said:
"I don't feel any need to "comfort" myself and sugarcoat the inevitable fact that one day we're all gonna fucking die." now that is the worst i've seen so far but to me it seems to say that anyone believing in a spiritual existence is a pussy.