Yes. The church has made itself a haven for monsters, and thus will have a higher rate of them than most other institutions.
Poll: Do you believe in the pedobear Catholic priest stereotype?
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It's a fact that priesthood is a vocation that is intrinsically supposed to be devoid of any kind of romantic and/or sexual relationship. So that is a very important element to priesthood that is more attractive to pedophiles and other sexual deviants than people with regular, healthy and socially acceptable interests.
For a person who already knows that he can never have a socially and morally acceptable fulfilling relationship of that kind anyway (for instance a pedophile), that commitment is easier to make than for someone who does have socially and morally acceptable urges. A pedophile who becomes a priest isn't giving up a prospective happy marriage, or a normal sex-life, or any type of romantic involvement.
And come to think of it, why is there a celibacy requirement for priesthood in the first place? Sex is such a core part of your humanity, there are very few people who can live a total and truthfully celibate life without that warping their behavior towards abnormality. It's a broken system that should have been abolished for the greater good a looong time ago.
For a person who already knows that he can never have a socially and morally acceptable fulfilling relationship of that kind anyway (for instance a pedophile), that commitment is easier to make than for someone who does have socially and morally acceptable urges. A pedophile who becomes a priest isn't giving up a prospective happy marriage, or a normal sex-life, or any type of romantic involvement.
And come to think of it, why is there a celibacy requirement for priesthood in the first place? Sex is such a core part of your humanity, there are very few people who can live a total and truthfully celibate life without that warping their behavior towards abnormality. It's a broken system that should have been abolished for the greater good a looong time ago.
It's probably been said a million times by now, but it's because the Catholic church has been consistently complicit in covering up child abuse.nbamaniac said:
I'm a big fan of alliteration.
Most Catholic priests don't molest children, the amount of abusers is probably not much higher than that in any other profession. Their safety mechanisms absolutely fucking suck though, back when I went to Catholic schools I could be requisitioned pretty much anytime, unsupervised. The stereotype is very much deserved.
And just because there haven't been cases of abuse identified in your area don't mean they're not happening.
Which brings us back to the issue of Rome. Millennia of pizza knowledge, passed down from father to son since Gaius Julius Caesar himself walked the earth would be lost forever!Boris Goodenough said:Daverson said:I've been there, it is really nice, no reason to burn it down.
We can used a tactical neutron bomb then.
Well no, the vast majority are not and I don?t know that they even have a significantly higher rate of it that anywhere else. (tho it may be true, paedophiles may be more attracted to that career because of the position it puts them in. Same with Teachers)
However the reputation is not random or completely underserved. There have been many publicised cases of it and the church has been known to protect the bastards. Because they are in a trusted authority position, are meant to be dedicated to god, preach morals and are meant to be celibate it makes it seem all the more wrong and the cases stand out more.
However the reputation is not random or completely underserved. There have been many publicised cases of it and the church has been known to protect the bastards. Because they are in a trusted authority position, are meant to be dedicated to god, preach morals and are meant to be celibate it makes it seem all the more wrong and the cases stand out more.
No,k but then again, I know that the acctions of the few do not represent the actions of the whole. none of the priests in my area have raped anyone or at least thats what they told me to say.
Now I do believe the pope is a nazi (albeit former) and am immediately distrustful of him.
Now I do believe the pope is a nazi (albeit former) and am immediately distrustful of him.
Thats close enough for me really.Woodsey said:
besides, its not just that. I dont agree with many of his policies and what he's doing.
... then again, I thought John Paul II was the greatest thing since sliced bread (even though people like to routinely tell me he was just as if not more evil).
Yeah, if you give cockroaches a safe haven because you're to afraid of what the neighbors will say if they see you fumigating, you'll just deal with an even bigger roach problem tomorrow. The Catholics are going to let the wrong person in accidentally, welcome to the human condition. Trying to cover their asses to appear infallible is what probably started this whole shit storm, since pedos knew they would get transferred instead of handed over to authorities, at least that's what I cobbled together from all these stories.Istvan said:
well thats polite.Woodsey said:
Like I said in the rest of my post, thats not my biggest issue with him. In fact, pardoning the pedophile church members is a bigger issue to me than him being a hitler youth. I just like to say that cause its a bit funnier to me.
I'm having troubles not to believe that...
Do they really live in celibacy? Really? No jerking off? No rummaging around on dirty porn-sites? No promise of cheap thrills and risky STDs due to dirty one nighter?
Something has to be wrong and Pedobear's explanation really helps me filling the gap here.
Do they really live in celibacy? Really? No jerking off? No rummaging around on dirty porn-sites? No promise of cheap thrills and risky STDs due to dirty one nighter?
Something has to be wrong and Pedobear's explanation really helps me filling the gap here.
Do I believe all Roman Catholic priests are pedophiles? -No
Am I aware that a good number of individuals and the upper echelons of the Roman Catholic Church deliberately hid and moved around pedophile priests to protect the reputation of the church, at the expense of the victims? -Absolutely
Am I aware that a good number of individuals and the upper echelons of the Roman Catholic Church deliberately hid and moved around pedophile priests to protect the reputation of the church, at the expense of the victims? -Absolutely
I believe that they are all as bad as pedos. The pope defended pedos (defended those who defended pedos, whatever) which makes him just as bad.
All RC priests take their orders from pope which makes them just as bad as him.
Or as Mr Minchen puts it "if you cover for another motherf***er who's a kiddie f***er, f*** you you're no better than the motherf***ing rapist"
Well at least I tried to make it less provocative...
All RC priests take their orders from pope which makes them just as bad as him.
Or as Mr Minchen puts it "if you cover for another motherf***er who's a kiddie f***er, f*** you you're no better than the motherf***ing rapist"
Well at least I tried to make it less provocative...
Please dont, I find the architecture quite beautiful.Istvan said:
OT: Im not RC, but I am a practicing christian. No, not all priests are pedo, but I wont deny that it is a very serious issue that needs to be addressed.
No, I don't think it is a fair stereotype or that Catholic priests have a higher % of pedophiles than other profession. I saw that only 1.5% of child molestations come professionals(priests/teachers/doctors/etc combined) Close to 80% comes from parents unfortunately. I do find it pretty despicable that the church tried to hide the molesters from the law.
