Poll: Do you believe we landed on the moon?

[BakaSmurf]

Also, at the time we were fighting a cold war with russia. Russia had very good tracking capabilities and intercepted every single transmission sent by those spacecrafts. They also had a vested interest in making us look bad.

If it was fake, they would have known it, and would have called us on it, big time.

I've never looked at it quite like that, but I think that is going to be my new favorite line when debunking the conspiracy nuts! haha... awesome.

You can use the same logic for the Roswell incident, and UFO coverups.

If aliens were approaching earth, we would have built defenses to protect ourselves from interstellar incursion.

We only built defenses against Russian bombers and missiles.

There are no alien visitors.

Well, at least not any that the government has encountered yet. ;-)

 

[Calatar]

Shoot. Misread the poll answers. Pretend I voted "Of course not" instead of "Of course they were."

I thought I was answering "Of course they were real."

That may be the reason that the answers are so close. People are just getting a bit mixed up.

Just changed it, hopefully that will clear things up a bit. I hope that's the reason why the answers are so close.

 

[PAGEToap44]

They're as real as fairies. Fairies are real too you know. 0_o

Yeah it's highly probable that our boots met moondust. Not to be confused with fairydust.

 

[Borrowed Time]

8 for "of course they were!"? Wow... just... wow...

There are very basic tests which have been done (such as the laser which was stated above me) which prove we have been. The original landings with their photographs and video have been shown to be legit from the research I've done. There's perfectly logical and scientific explanations for each "we faked it" argument that I've so far heard.

 

[lyokofire]

Of course we did, it's been proven but the ignorance of the few people who don't believe keep this myth going.

 

[TheSeventhLoneWolf]

I thought the russians got into space before anyone else, but i could be wrong.

 

[Altorin]

anyone who says we didn't is a crazy person.

 

[Calatar]

I thought the russians got into space before anyone else, but i could be wrong.

They got an unmanned sattelite, Sputnik, into space before the US, but the US managed to get the first man on the moon.

 

[HotFezz8]

sigh... yes we were on the moon. stop being so stupid. (someone go get him a blanky...)

how do you explain the moon dirt we have? the human detritus we left on the moon? the fact that no US buearacracy (particularly NASA) will ever be able to keep soemthing like that quiet for 40 + years? and how come the Russians so blithely accepted it if it was fake?

 

[Calatar]

I need links! I speak to morons on a daily basis and smacking them in the face with verifiable proof is only slightly less sweet than ecstasy.

This may help a little.

Here's a NASA account of some of the uses physicists and astronomers have had using the reflectors, including testing both the classical physics theory of gravity as well as the Einsteinian theory of relativity.

Since the precise same wavelength returns to earth, we know that they must be the same photons which come from the monochromatic laser, and since there is a speed-of-light delay, we can be sure they went all the way to the moon.

 

[HotFezz8]

oh and stop believeing shit you read on the internet, it just makes you look like a gullible muppet. hang on,

http://digg.com/general_sciences/Gravity_Doesn_t_Exist (someone says gravity doesn't exist)
http://cboard.cprogramming.com/brief-history-cprogramming-com/7769-winston-churchill-carrot.html (proof that winston churchill was a carrot)
http://www.666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html (i think they are saying the holocaust didn't happen, i decided that this site was genetically retarded (much like this thread) and didn't read far enough into it to be sure)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1R2TSEE_enGB346&q=darwin+was+wrong&meta=&aq=0&oq=darwin+was+ (and a google list of people saying darwin was wrong. i give up on the internet.)

 

[ffxfriek]

We were on the moon. We left things up there, a couple of which are a few mirrored reflectors on the moon. We can bounce a laser array off those reflectors and get the laser back in real time. That is the final proof that will never be disproved. We have been to the moon.

Enough said.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

8 for "of course they were!"? Wow... just... wow...

There are very basic tests which have been done (such as the laser which was stated above me) which prove we have been. The original landings with their photographs and video have been shown to be legit from the research I've done. There's perfectly logical and scientific explanations for each "we faked it" argument that I've so far heard.

Yeah, pretty much what I was going to say. We certainly have been there, and I'd say there's strong enough evidence to support the idea we were there the first time.

I could definitely understand WHY our government would have faked a moon landing, but the thing is that I don't think they actually DID do it. It's not that I trust the government, but there's quite a bit of evidence.

 

[justblues]

the mythbusters even proved we landed on the moon just to youtube or discovery ch to find the episode

 

[Aesir23]

The U.S. successfully accomplished a moon landing in 1969. There's nothing else to it, no hoax or anything.

 

[Calatar]

Huh, well currently escapists seem to be as much as 4 times more likely to believe in the moon hoax conspiracy as the 1999 poll claimed, yet we have no comments explaining why any person believes in the conspiracy. Was it just the early confusing grammar, or is there genuinely a sentiment of belief in this?

 

[Blackvegie]

Little Known Fact: The moon is the other side of the sun.

Therefore it was actually a "sun" landing.

 

[Ckeesy]

I believe they were real. A lot of good points have been brought up here in support of the landings, and I feel that if it were a hoax it would have surfaced as such by now.

I'm a bit concerned that we haven't been making regular trips up there. Really, by now, we should have a space station up on the moon. But NASA got cold feet after Challenger and have been relegated to a glorified taxi service ever since.

If we're ever going to actually start a manned exploration of space, then putting a space station on the moon has to be a goal. And at this stage, I don't think that it's a logistical impossibility.

The problem here is that humans in general, or at least those who are front running the species, have their priorities out of order. Common sense says that we should be doing what we can to expand our culture into space, but people in the free world would rather be doing their own thing. In reality, most of the population, at least in the United States, is more concerned about the happenings of celebrities or getting laid (not a bad thing, mind you). As a result, those in power are doing what they can to stay in power, meaning they are catering to the misguided whims of the masses.

I know I'm straying a tad off topic here, but just thinking for the last couple minutes, I've formulated the idea that in terms of our long-term survival as a species, Democracy is doing more harm than good. People in general are stupid, and more or less need to be told what to do before they actively go out and do it. And when the people in power are being told what to do by the stupids, nothing gets done because no one knows what's really going on.

And, without getting into a huge political thing, our multi-party government system may be ultimately flawed. 8 years, the max term for a US president, is not enough time to get something big like this in the works. And when their time is up, there is so much conflict across party lines that any policies put in place could be dismantled by future presidents. We're seeing this happen right now with regards to things related to the conflicts in the Middle East.

I guess what I'm saying is that maybe a different type of government is what we need to get the ball rolling. It's been years since I took a social studies class, so the names of the various types of governments elude me, but basically we just need to get some level-headed people in office who can sit down and say, "This is what we need to do." Not a dictatorship, of course, those in power would still be held accountable. But just something different. To tie this into gaming, maybe something more like the Quarian government in Mass Effect.

*Note, I am not against the idea of Democracy or American freedoms etc...