Poll: Do you feel you were lied to about Drugs in D.A.R.E., or other programs in school?

[Phyroxis]

Well the time-honored axiom of: "If you give the kids condoms; they'll have sex" is well mirrored by its ugly cousin "If you give the kids drug-prevention; they'll get high"

Obviously DARE did much more bad than good.


But seriously.. DARE did try. There are other prevention programs that have had much better results, though.

 

[cthulhumythos]

i remeber dare. if i recall all it did was piss me off. i never planned on doing drugs, and i still dont, but its not like because dare said drugs are bad. in fact i never thoght of smoking anything until dare talked about it and even then i felt a little encourged to smoke just to spite them. its like when you hate someone so much that ifthey say somthing you just want to do the opposite. dare was just annoying in its stupidity( im not saying its stupid to discourage drugs its just how they did it)

 

[Tri Force95]

Well, sometimes i think we are given so much info, its like they're trying to make us druggies.

 

[HT_Black]

I've never heard of, let alone attended, anything like this. Hence, no.

 

[Captain Lag]

All I can remember about DARE is when we went on a field trip to the police station and they had some skinhead in a cell there. He didn't care too much for a class of 6th graders staring at him and he shot double birdS

 

[Captain Lag]

Edit: I hit the post button twice D:

 

[Jark212]

I remember this from elementary school. Too bad the programs failed miserably. That South Park episode had it right...

 

[skywalkerlion]

DARE.. oh god.. the memories...

Is your avatar of David Bowie? Because I <3 him completely

OT- Nah, I never wanted to do drugs though, so the classes were wastes of time. And they REALLY over do it. Like, I have a DARE class EVERY effing year. It sucks, because it's just constantly 'DRUGS R BAD DRUGS R BAD DRUGS R BAD'. I know, okay? You don't need to hammer it into my head.

 

[Seanchaidh]

but is it fair to call an exaggeration a lie just because it doesn't apply absolutely?

Yes. Yes it is.

Don't you think that's rather black-or-white? Lies only or truth absolutely with no middle-grounds, no lesser-yin/yang to the greater? DARE can't tailor-make outcomes for experimentation because they don't know individuals, but that's not the point. It's like with gun control: certain groups will say thousands of children die from playing with guns in their own homes each year while others will say the actual number of casualties is ONLY 150... So what? does that mean there's an acceptable loss? Is it LESS of a problem to be concerned over because it's a smaller number?

Yes, it is in fact less of a problem to be concerned over because it's a smaller number.

Does it really matter how many people die from or ruin their lives because of their addictions?

Yes, it does.

By exaggerating the statistics, is the whole entire point invalidated?

It might as well be for all the good their program has done, or rather hasn't done. Bullshit doesn't help people make informed decisions. Bullshit doesn't steer people in the right direction. Bullshit is what the Drug Abuse Resistance Education program has peddled for the last few decades. Bullshit quite simply will not keep kids off drugs. Propaganda campaigns don't work when the subjects are wallowing in contrary evidence. You can't convince people of anything if they don't trust you on some level, and the DARE program smelled like bullshit all along.

 

[Jinx_Dragon]

They were pretty honest about drugs against us. Can't remember being lied about them. Then again, I live in Holland.

I just love your anti-drug and alcohol advertisements over there. Not only where they accurate but they didn't touch on the usual irrational 'fear-mongering' you find in... say the US anti-drug ads. It was a refreshing change and they where actually quite effective. No one ever likes to learn they have been lied too, and when they do they tend to overlook the few truths that have been said with the lies.

Holland has, for example, far lower rates of drug use then the USA... even cannabis! Interesting that controlled market caused a decrease in drug use where a black market has not...

For those who have never seen them they can easily be summed up like this: If you do drugs or alcohol there is the likelihood you will do something stupid and people will laugh at you, slap you in the face and/or generally think your a dick and not like you.

 

[EeveeElectro]

DARE.. oh god.. the memories...

Is your avatar of David Bowie? Because I <3 him completely

Oh yes!

 

[matsugawa]

... gun control: certain groups will say thousands of children die from playing with guns in their own homes each year while others will say the actual number of casualties is ONLY 150... So what? does that mean there's an acceptable loss? Is it LESS of a problem to be concerned over because it's a smaller number?

Yes, it is in fact less of a problem to be concerned over because it's a smaller number.

Does it really matter how many people die from or ruin their lives because of their addictions?

Yes, it does.

That's what I get for using rhetorical questions....

So, it's less of a problem because of smaller numbers, but it still matters in spite of it? Aren't you creating a bit of a double standard? If it matters that people are dying from and/or ruining their lives because of their addictions regardless of the number, then how can it be less of a problem because it's a smaller number? What if YOU were among that number? I think I see where you're going, but where you're going is in circles. From your perspective, I'm probably the same way. So, it doesn't look like we can find a middle ground after all. Sorry.

 

[Aunel]

I never got any stuff like that at school
what is that D.A.R.E thing anyway?

 

[Takoto]

Meh, all the lies made me giggle in PSE. Like the whole "If you smoke week you will get kicked out of your house and become homeless" (what?) and all the stuff about sex.

 

[quack35]

DID YOU GUYS KNOW THAT 80% OF PEOPLE THAT SMOKE WEED DIE THE FIRST TIME?!?

 

[Haydyn]

D.A.R.E. is a fraud and a massive failure.

1)They lie so much you can't tell when they are lying so some stupid moron thinks "Maybe heroin/meth isn't THAT bad".

2)The ONLY time you see anyone wear one of their t-shirts or wristbands is out of irony.It's a sure sign of a recreational drug user if there ever was one.Unless their plan was to make it easier to spot the drug users, they failed massively.

I was thinking about that earlier. It reminds me of how in Saint's Row 2 some guys wearing anti-drug t-shirts are trying to get drugs.

The truth is that no one has ever died because of pot. Making up phony stories about drug abuse like how smoking pot will give you breasts are going to fail. If anything, that would make girls smoke pot in hopes of getting bigger breasts. It's the same reason abstinence organizations fail. Having sex with a condom on is not going to turn me gay (not that there's anything wrong with that.) What DARE should be doing is telling kids and teens the actual dangers of drugs, tobacco, and alcohol.

To me, the whole concept of DARE is fail. Reverse phycology doesn't work when it comes to peer pressure. "I dare you to not do drugs." "Well then I dare you to do drugs." "O, gee willikers!" The only people who are going to fall for it are sheltered nerds. Pot should be legal. The only thing anti smoking commercials do is make me want to smoke, and that is saying something considering half a dozen people in my family have died of cancer.

People should get to choose for themselves if they want to drink alcohol, smoke, or do drugs. Tell them the dangers, and let them use their own will power to stay off things if they want to.

 

[Paradox11]

Heh, we never have those round here. And we have lot less drug addicts.

DARE springs up in communities as a response to actual or perceived dug usage levels. Where there is no drug problem, DARE has less purpose than it normally does.

 

[Paradox11]

Heh, we never have those round here. And we have lot less drug addicts.

DARE springs up in communities as a response to actual or perceived dug usage levels. Where there is no drug problem, DARE has less purpose than it normally does.

 

[Seanchaidh]

... gun control: certain groups will say thousands of children die from playing with guns in their own homes each year while others will say the actual number of casualties is ONLY 150... So what? does that mean there's an acceptable loss? Is it LESS of a problem to be concerned over because it's a smaller number?

Yes, it is in fact less of a problem to be concerned over because it's a smaller number.

Does it really matter how many people die from or ruin their lives because of their addictions?

Yes, it does.

That's what I get for using rhetorical questions....

So, it's less of a problem because of smaller numbers, but it still matters in spite of it? Aren't you creating a bit of a double standard? If it matters that people are dying from and/or ruining their lives because of their addictions regardless of the number, then how can it be less of a problem because it's a smaller number? What if YOU were among that number? I think I see where you're going, but where you're going is in circles. From your perspective, I'm probably the same way. So, it doesn't look like we can find a middle ground after all. Sorry.

I don't see any inconsistency with what I've said. My position is that the number matters. I said that it does matter how many people die or ruin their lives. I haven't said that it doesn't matter how many, and I've said nothing "regardless of the number." A proper educational program won't lie to students. That's my position.

 

[Supreme Unleaded]

Well since I dont want to get hooked on drugs (being 14), i will keep in my false sence of security thank you very much.