Poll: Do you hate sexy armor on female characters?
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As long as the sexy armor doesn't impede a character being a good character. If the entire personality of the character is "Is excesively sexy", it's bad. If the character gets characterization beyond that (For example, Jack or Samara from ME2), I don't give a damn about the armor.
Basically, as long as the armor helps protect an actual character and not just a sexy hunk-o-meat.
Basically, as long as the armor helps protect an actual character and not just a sexy hunk-o-meat.
As a general rule, the answer is yes. But that general rule has an important caveat. If the game attempts to apply realistic armor to males (i.e. I think the same suit of armor, when worn on a male, would provide reasonable protection to vital organs in combat, or at least as much as could be expected given the type of material), but it gives females a skimpy version without explanation I tend to get annoyed.
Skyrim, for example, does it fairly well. The various light armor types tend to be variably revealing. The hide armor for example can be little more than a bikini but the same armor on a male is even less protective. That the armor is only slightly better than being naked helps because that is precisely the amount of protection I'd expect such a thing to provide: a bit better than nothing at all. By contrast, the heavy armors, though they tend to conform to the curves of the female form a bit more than I'd think reasonable to expect the blacksmiths of the era to mass produce, provides identical levels of coverage and protection. The gaps in armor on a female version of Iron armor are still there on the male version.
By contrast, World of Warcraft does it the wrong way. A suit of armor meant for a male tends to be bulky and silly in it's own way but the same piece worn on a female tends to be arbitrarily revealing. In a common example, a long robe for one might be a short skirt and halter top for the other.
I suppose what bugs me then is consistency. If two identical objects provide identical protection, I would expect identical coverage. The best constructed impenetrable boob shields in the world are of little use if you aren't hit in the 5% of your anatomy being protected.
Skyrim, for example, does it fairly well. The various light armor types tend to be variably revealing. The hide armor for example can be little more than a bikini but the same armor on a male is even less protective. That the armor is only slightly better than being naked helps because that is precisely the amount of protection I'd expect such a thing to provide: a bit better than nothing at all. By contrast, the heavy armors, though they tend to conform to the curves of the female form a bit more than I'd think reasonable to expect the blacksmiths of the era to mass produce, provides identical levels of coverage and protection. The gaps in armor on a female version of Iron armor are still there on the male version.
By contrast, World of Warcraft does it the wrong way. A suit of armor meant for a male tends to be bulky and silly in it's own way but the same piece worn on a female tends to be arbitrarily revealing. In a common example, a long robe for one might be a short skirt and halter top for the other.
I suppose what bugs me then is consistency. If two identical objects provide identical protection, I would expect identical coverage. The best constructed impenetrable boob shields in the world are of little use if you aren't hit in the 5% of your anatomy being protected.
Female gamer feminist here to say... eh, it doesn't bother me most of the time. Actually, what I hate is huge male armor.Riki Darnell said:
If you look at real life plate armor, it's actually very form-fitting. The idea was for it to move as little as possible, to avoid rubbing or leaving openings. Other than bikini armor (which is silly), snug, close fitting armor for females is actually MORE realistic than the huge tin-cans that men seem to be strapping on.
So basically - MEN should be wearing tight, form fitting armor too. Just no bikini armor - that's just silly.
Unless it's a silly game, in which case I want to see men wearing Codpieces and getting huge armor bonuses.
- It fits the armor class. No plate bikinis, chainmail shouldn't be too immodest, leather and cloth can wear whatever the hell they want.
- Bikinis are about the only thing I have a problem with. Form-fitting or visible skin is fine. In fact, plate should be form fitting or it's damn uncomfortable, it's suppose to fit you like a glove otherwise it's more painful then wearing a tin can.
- Bikinis are about the only thing I have a problem with. Form-fitting or visible skin is fine. In fact, plate should be form fitting or it's damn uncomfortable, it's suppose to fit you like a glove otherwise it's more painful then wearing a tin can.
I don't hate it per se, but I do find it kinda annoying at times. Thankfully, for some reason, the games I seem to play don't really do this crap anymore. The only times I see very skimpy female outfits for games actually tend to be the work of modders. I'm looking at you Fallout and TES modders. >_>
I just care if it's practical or not. Ashley's armor from Mass Effect (yes, even three) seems fine. It's sexy, yet it's practical. It covers her shit.
Now Miranda from Mass Effect 2... I'm not really sure what she was going with here. Does she have on bullet proof spandex? Not the first choice of armor I would have picked.
But for the record, Jacob was just as guilty of that. I guess there's some sort of rule in Cerberus where you have to tough it out.
Now Miranda from Mass Effect 2... I'm not really sure what she was going with here. Does she have on bullet proof spandex? Not the first choice of armor I would have picked.
But for the record, Jacob was just as guilty of that. I guess there's some sort of rule in Cerberus where you have to tough it out.
Bow chika bow wow.Yureina said:
Did you see the dragonplate bikini?
Although it gets overboard once you start having the sex animation mads. That's pretty effed up. And I'm pretty sure I've seen screenshots of FO3 where the PC was either an anime girl or a blue fox - which I have no idea what that is from. But it's pretty weird. No offense to any furries who want to play as a blue fox, that's just my opinion.
Lets see, females in impractical armor designs. My Thoughts?
Well I own Soul Calibur 2, 4 and 5.
But that do not define my final opinion of the subject.
Sure as a guy I admit I enjoy seeing a physically attractive female scantily clad.
But it is becoming ridiculous in many modern fantasy games
I didn't need Zero Suit Samus to know Samus was more than someone in space armor.
Inside the armor exist a beautiful woman. Hell back in the days of the original game no one knew Samus was a Woman until you beat the game.
And there nothing wrong seeing more realistic armor on female characters in fantasy
It be a good change of pace from Soul Calibur's Ivy.
Lady Hawke (from Dragon Age II) is a recent example
there was also Agrias Oaks from Final Fantasy Tactics
Yes that is a female from a Final Fantasy game, if Final Fantasy had done it before it I do not see why others can't ether.
Well I own Soul Calibur 2, 4 and 5.
But that do not define my final opinion of the subject.
Sure as a guy I admit I enjoy seeing a physically attractive female scantily clad.
But it is becoming ridiculous in many modern fantasy games
I didn't need Zero Suit Samus to know Samus was more than someone in space armor.
Inside the armor exist a beautiful woman. Hell back in the days of the original game no one knew Samus was a Woman until you beat the game.
And there nothing wrong seeing more realistic armor on female characters in fantasy
It be a good change of pace from Soul Calibur's Ivy.
Lady Hawke (from Dragon Age II) is a recent example
there was also Agrias Oaks from Final Fantasy Tactics
Yes that is a female from a Final Fantasy game, if Final Fantasy had done it before it I do not see why others can't ether.
I put most should be realistic and not "sexy", MOST because fucking Bat-Nipples. HIS ABS AND NIPPLES ARE ENGRAVED INTO HIS ARMOR. Even when Bat-Nipples aren't present, his junk is apparent and abs are still there. If there were female Arkham City patients, they'd be talking about sexually harassing Batman.
I don't really mind it if it fits the tone of the game, like soul caliber, damn near everyone in those games wears something ridiculous so I don't mind it too much.
But on the other hand when you have characters like Jack from Mass Effect 2 who is as close to topless as you can get while, almost everyone else is rocking some kind of power armor, then it kinda bugs me.
But on the other hand when you have characters like Jack from Mass Effect 2 who is as close to topless as you can get while, almost everyone else is rocking some kind of power armor, then it kinda bugs me.
I think the whole "it's time we did something about these sexist depictions of women" is an oversensitive reaction by guys, similar to "white guilt", but with an added element of "practice saying what girls want to hear."
I'll tell you what I'm really tired of, is male characters. Macho marines for the guys and boring meatheads for the ladies. Bulging muscles, gelled hairstyles, just because women don't care so much for seeing skin doesn't mean the depiction of male characters isn't sexist. Veiny steroid biceps = ok, chest like a barrel = ok, jaw like a brick = ok, large breasts = sexist.
I'll tell you what I'm really tired of, is male characters. Macho marines for the guys and boring meatheads for the ladies. Bulging muscles, gelled hairstyles, just because women don't care so much for seeing skin doesn't mean the depiction of male characters isn't sexist. Veiny steroid biceps = ok, chest like a barrel = ok, jaw like a brick = ok, large breasts = sexist.
The internet: where we assume every poster is male unless they specifically say otherwise.isometry said:
Is anyone saying male characterization as dumb muscle isn't sexist?isometry said:
However, as mentioned before, my issue with sexy armor isn't just that it's sexist (and it is) - it's that it's a stupid concept.
pretty much sums it up.TheScientificIssole said:
As, long as it would still protect them I don't care, but if it would clearly never work as you know actual armor I hate it.
I love form fitting armor. The only thing I don't like is the lack of armor. It should cover everything you need armored!