Poll: Do you like the Jim Inquisition show?

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Saluki_princess

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Right now, I like him all right. Not one of my favorite shows on the site, but worth watching. I'm sure as he figures things out and if he takes constructive criticism, he'll improve.
 

weker

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Harbinger_ said:
weker said:
Harbinger_ said:
weker said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
Here's a few of Jim's comments on Twitter about those who critised his videos, I'll let them speak for themselves:

Jim said:
Haha, so the Escapist's elite are saying I am a sexist for daring to suggest that men have evolved to find breasts attractive
Jim said:
At least they can't whine that my opinion is "just like Extra Credits" now. Oh wait, they did that too! Fucking morons
Jim said:
To be fair, a lot more of 'em are warming to me. Once the proper elitist cunts restrain themselves and stop watching, we can all be happy.
Jim said:
It's not a criticism of Extra Credits, more a criticism of the thick-headedness of some of the forumites
Jim said:
Yep! With the irony being that they're making themselves look like some proper ignorant cunts
Jim said:
I think it's because Extra Credits and ZP use drawings. The bright colors probably distract their brains
Jim said:
Yep, pretty much. Their criticisms have become so insular and ridiculous that I've given up trying to appeal to them
Link: http://twitter.com/#!/jimsterling

Why should we respect this man if he won't respect us?
Because the escapist started it, with these awful lets get rid of him threads.
From all his tweets they all seem fair, the escapist is an open community normal and one of the best, but for some reason becuase they dont like his show and think it should be banished into the dark.

I dont get why you have to say it should be here if you dont like it, I dont like or watch most the shows and I dont say get rid of them. All in all I enjoy it therfore it should not be stopped.

Should I start threads asking for shows to be removed it only seems fair?
Seriously? Thats your argument? Because we started it? Are you 5? By the way use some punctuation. If you're a contributor to this website you're expected to have some restraint and take the good with the bad not lash out like a child when you find out that people don't like you. You are expected to act like a professional.
Firstly I did use punctuation, if anything not very well (due to dyslexia and other things).

Their his tweets their not his work, he should be allowed to express himself how he wants, therfore he does. (however his wording is fairly vulgar)
He is like fair enough for him, people are ignorent with the "I dont like him, I want him off" I would express myself like he is.
He is differnt to ZP, EC and MB in this way. If he didnt express himself in this way he wouldent be on this site.
A person who's 'work' is a matter of opinion and then he posts his opinion of others. Surely this would be considered his 'work'. How are people being ignorant by saying they don't like him? I think that would be quite a bit better than spouting off profanity. So he's different because he calls out his audience and insults them? The Escapist represents integrity and Jimquisition does not. One of these things is not like the other ones of these things doesn't belong.
He is more vulgar and offensive yes that makes him differnt, The escapist is fine with accociating with them so why cant the forum. Also his "work" are the video currently not his tweets which are aimed at people who follow him. Jim also refers to himself as a "****" so I wouldent recomend you take everything he says as offensive.
 

teh_Canape

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not quite...

I mean, I don't hate it, but I don't go out of my way to watch it either

so yeah.... it's out there
 

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Custard_Angel said:
Side gripe: Why does the Daily Drop exist? I get that its dirt cheap to do and really, really, really, really fucking easy to make (step 1: pick up random object, step 2: drop random object), but seriously... Is it just a way to say "videos posted daily"?
Funny you should mention that. I live for that crowbar!! Remember a few years back there was this big deal about "Will it blend"? I think it's kind of the same deal. People like to see shit get wrecked...Primal nature or something, and you can't deny that it attracts viewers. Specifically on THIS site, I think it's only because of the LRR crew that it remains, personally I miss ENN...

OT: I don't find Jim funny, or even that informative. If you think THESE solutions are good, then you need to try to use your brain a little bit more. I didn't like Liza's top 5 at after the first episode, but I decided to give it a chance (still don't like it after watching a few more) so I somewhat begrudgingly say it still deserves a chance, though if scrapped right now, I can't say the Escapist would we worse off...

Currently though in my opinion I hate this show.
 

Harbinger_

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weker said:
Harbinger_ said:
weker said:
Harbinger_ said:
weker said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
Here's a few of Jim's comments on Twitter about those who critised his videos, I'll let them speak for themselves:

Jim said:
Haha, so the Escapist's elite are saying I am a sexist for daring to suggest that men have evolved to find breasts attractive
Jim said:
At least they can't whine that my opinion is "just like Extra Credits" now. Oh wait, they did that too! Fucking morons
Jim said:
To be fair, a lot more of 'em are warming to me. Once the proper elitist cunts restrain themselves and stop watching, we can all be happy.
Jim said:
It's not a criticism of Extra Credits, more a criticism of the thick-headedness of some of the forumites
Jim said:
Yep! With the irony being that they're making themselves look like some proper ignorant cunts
Jim said:
I think it's because Extra Credits and ZP use drawings. The bright colors probably distract their brains
Jim said:
Yep, pretty much. Their criticisms have become so insular and ridiculous that I've given up trying to appeal to them
Link: http://twitter.com/#!/jimsterling

Why should we respect this man if he won't respect us?
Because the escapist started it, with these awful lets get rid of him threads.
From all his tweets they all seem fair, the escapist is an open community normal and one of the best, but for some reason becuase they dont like his show and think it should be banished into the dark.

I dont get why you have to say it should be here if you dont like it, I dont like or watch most the shows and I dont say get rid of them. All in all I enjoy it therfore it should not be stopped.

Should I start threads asking for shows to be removed it only seems fair?
Seriously? Thats your argument? Because we started it? Are you 5? By the way use some punctuation. If you're a contributor to this website you're expected to have some restraint and take the good with the bad not lash out like a child when you find out that people don't like you. You are expected to act like a professional.
Firstly I did use punctuation, if anything not very well (due to dyslexia and other things).

Their his tweets their not his work, he should be allowed to express himself how he wants, therfore he does. (however his wording is fairly vulgar)
He is like fair enough for him, people are ignorent with the "I dont like him, I want him off" I would express myself like he is.
He is differnt to ZP, EC and MB in this way. If he didnt express himself in this way he wouldent be on this site.
A person who's 'work' is a matter of opinion and then he posts his opinion of others. Surely this would be considered his 'work'. How are people being ignorant by saying they don't like him? I think that would be quite a bit better than spouting off profanity. So he's different because he calls out his audience and insults them? The Escapist represents integrity and Jimquisition does not. One of these things is not like the other ones of these things doesn't belong.
He is more vulgar and offensive yes that makes him differnt, The escapist is fine with accociating with them so why cant the forum. Also his "work" are the video currently not his tweets which are aimed at people who follow him. Jim also refers to himself as a "****" so I wouldent recomend you take everything he says as offensive.
So if I referred to someone as a racial slur and then referred to myself as the same racial slur that makes it acceptable? If the Escapist Staff is fine with him being vulgar then they should be fine with us being vulgar to him.
 

RabbidKuriboh

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he DOES play "jesters of the moonless sky"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eols5oHGNXk during his uninspired and dull rants, which is good
 

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I don't mind the genre of video he's buying into, the whole rant and rave opinion show, that's fine. I love Escape to the Movies, Zero Punctuation, Extra Credits, even Lisa Foiles' Top 5, which has comparatively less substance. What bothers me about Jim's show is the production. He's got poor audio quality and his videos are painful to look at. Compare that to the simple but effective ZP Imp, or the art and design of Extra Credits and he comes up miles short. I mean hell, both Jim and Daniel from Extra Credits spend most of their time standing center screen speaking at us, but the visuals are just not pleasant with Jim. And this isn't because Jim is a fat, sweaty man. There are tons of fat sweaty people who are both engaging and funny. Jim just ends up looking like an uncomfortably anxious and upset mess in front of the camera and it puts the viewer off. I think his writing could use a little work as well, but it doesn't bother me nearly as much as the production quality of his show. People have said he's a troll, well, ok, but he doesn't belong here where we have such well put together discussion shows. He looks like a grade school science project in a room full of professional tech experts. He needs to up his game before I can take him seriously.

To make this constructive:
1. Improve his audio. Too much breathy static.
2. Improve visuals. Knock off the poorly drawn dicks and stupidity. He can still use them every so often for effect (Yahtzee does and it works) but don't make that a staple.
2.5. Change up his presentation. Don't let the camera sit on him for the whole 7 minutes while he sweats and screws up his lines. Vary it up, use some tasteful editing. Maybe other angles?
3. Generally tighten up the speech itself. This might be an illusion because the shots are so long that it just seems to ramble on and on, but he needs to keep it tight, clipped and to the point. The jokes can be punchier, his delivery could be better. There is room to improve.

As it is now, I can't stand this show. But it isn't out of reach for him to start playing with the big kids. Even then, not sure I'd buy into it. But who knows.
 

daubie

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I'm not a sold on it at all, but he did use "Rave On" from Killer 7 as music for the latest video, so props for that.
 

The_Splatterer

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I'm just gunna leave a section of a quote i made on his first episode:
I'll stick to the higher etiquette and knowledge and understanding of the industry that is Extra Credits, one that tries to educate and support the industry, not bash and insult it. I hope this doesn't become a regular as i always saw The Escapist as a website with quite high standards and class - this guy clearly has none.
Sure Yahtzee doesn't always show that but he's entertaining and just trying to critic games, he still comes across as trying to help, and certainly doesn't seem like he thinks he is god's gift to the medium and we should get in line.
Sure Movie Bob can come across a bit Rant-ey too but once again he does it in an entertaining 'this is my opinion and heres why' kind of way - as aposed to a I AM RIGHT kinda way. We've got all the opinionated people we need on this website. And they're a hell of a lot better than this guy.
 

coolkirb

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He is just not liked because he represents the polar opposit of extra credits, honestly this site has almost as much bias as Fox news
 

The_Splatterer

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coolkirb said:
He is just not liked because he represents the polar opposit of extra credits, honestly this site has almost as much bias as Fox news
Because extra credits presents it's information based on years in the industry, and based on working with other's in the industry. They do not try to tell as much as they try to teach. Jim just seems to shout his opinions.
 

Chaoswin1

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I find it funny that whenever someone doesn't like something they have to make a huge deal out of it. Like someone said before me "don't like it? Close it down". It's just that simple really. I don't like the show and I've watched both episodes fully. It's not my cup of tea as they say but if you do like it fair enough more power to ya.
 

coolkirb

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The_Splatterer said:
coolkirb said:
He is just not liked because he represents the polar opposit of extra credits, honestly this site has almost as much bias as Fox news
Because extra credits presents it's information based on years in the industry, and based on working with other's in the industry. They do not try to tell as much as they try to teach. Jim just seems to shout his opinions.
Actualy Extra Credits is just as opinionated they just dont out right admit its an opinion. Theyre whole metriod episode was an opion, their view on the future of video games was an opion and their idea of of game mechanics and story structure are opinions, they have a little research but not enough to take what they say as fact. Simply put they are a highly liberal show that puts games on a golden pedestal that I frankly dont think it deserves to be on anytime in the near future. In short they just appeal more to the escapist then the short of hard news style opinion work jim does, I dont realy care for either though.
 

GaryH

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It's awful. I am stunned that the Escapist want their award winning website to be associated with something so lacking in quality and content.

@weker

The difference is that there are some shows on The Escapist that I dislike, but they aren't BAD and I can see why they might be to someone elses taste. The Jimquisition is a terribly written, horribly presented and awfully performed piece of utter drivel and The Escapist suffers by putting it's name on it.

I've never seen someone manage to talk for so long without actually saying anything useful, let alone witty, and I am at a loss as to how anyone can actually enjoy it.
 

LadyMint

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Snark requires a certain talent to pull off as a form of entertainment and for my tastes, Sterling does not entertain. I couldn't make it through the first of his videos on this website. I forced myself to get through the second one, but in the end I still didn't like what I saw or heard in the way of presentation. I've also shown it to other people who don't visit this website -- because I wanted to discuss the point he was trying to make in his second video -- and some of them couldn't make it all the way through his speech, either. IMHO, presentation truly is everything because even when you have a valid point (not saying he did or didn't), if you can't present it well enough, no one's going to want to hear it.

VonBrewskie said:
Eh. Vitriolic ranting is everywhere I look these days. .... I'm already kind of overloaded with negative ranting.
Thank you. That's exactly what I was thinking as well. Don't get me wrong, I like to laugh at some full-blown rants on how certain things are terrible, but they're usually full of clever wordplay and that's what makes me smile when I listen to them. It's not always about the fact that the person's complaining--It's about the poetic way the complaint is conveyed.

So yeah. I don't care for Jimquisition. I don't hate him; I hardly know the guy. But I don't intend to keep watching his part on The Escapist.
 

Ickorus

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"Meh."

Not much else I can say on the subject, it's not something I intend on watching in future.
 

weker

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Harbinger_ said:
weker said:
Harbinger_ said:
weker said:
Harbinger_ said:
weker said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
Here's a few of Jim's comments on Twitter about those who critised his videos, I'll let them speak for themselves:

Jim said:
Haha, so the Escapist's elite are saying I am a sexist for daring to suggest that men have evolved to find breasts attractive
Jim said:
At least they can't whine that my opinion is "just like Extra Credits" now. Oh wait, they did that too! Fucking morons
Jim said:
To be fair, a lot more of 'em are warming to me. Once the proper elitist cunts restrain themselves and stop watching, we can all be happy.
Jim said:
It's not a criticism of Extra Credits, more a criticism of the thick-headedness of some of the forumites
Jim said:
Yep! With the irony being that they're making themselves look like some proper ignorant cunts
Jim said:
I think it's because Extra Credits and ZP use drawings. The bright colors probably distract their brains
Jim said:
Yep, pretty much. Their criticisms have become so insular and ridiculous that I've given up trying to appeal to them
Link: http://twitter.com/#!/jimsterling

Why should we respect this man if he won't respect us?
Because the escapist started it, with these awful lets get rid of him threads.
From all his tweets they all seem fair, the escapist is an open community normal and one of the best, but for some reason becuase they dont like his show and think it should be banished into the dark.

I dont get why you have to say it should be here if you dont like it, I dont like or watch most the shows and I dont say get rid of them. All in all I enjoy it therfore it should not be stopped.

Should I start threads asking for shows to be removed it only seems fair?
Seriously? Thats your argument? Because we started it? Are you 5? By the way use some punctuation. If you're a contributor to this website you're expected to have some restraint and take the good with the bad not lash out like a child when you find out that people don't like you. You are expected to act like a professional.
Firstly I did use punctuation, if anything not very well (due to dyslexia and other things).

Their his tweets their not his work, he should be allowed to express himself how he wants, therfore he does. (however his wording is fairly vulgar)
He is like fair enough for him, people are ignorent with the "I dont like him, I want him off" I would express myself like he is.
He is differnt to ZP, EC and MB in this way. If he didnt express himself in this way he wouldent be on this site.
A person who's 'work' is a matter of opinion and then he posts his opinion of others. Surely this would be considered his 'work'. How are people being ignorant by saying they don't like him? I think that would be quite a bit better than spouting off profanity. So he's different because he calls out his audience and insults them? The Escapist represents integrity and Jimquisition does not. One of these things is not like the other ones of these things doesn't belong.
He is more vulgar and offensive yes that makes him differnt, The escapist is fine with accociating with them so why cant the forum. Also his "work" are the video currently not his tweets which are aimed at people who follow him. Jim also refers to himself as a "****" so I wouldent recomend you take everything he says as offensive.
So if I referred to someone as a racial slur and then referred to myself as the same racial slur that makes it acceptable? If the Escapist Staff is fine with him being vulgar then they should be fine with us being vulgar to him.
A racial slur is different to swearing and no it doesn't make it acceptable thats why their his tweets and not in the forum.
Their fine with us swearing at him as long as it's not on the forum.