That sounds.... highly.. suggestive.putowtin said:I'm a girl, I play games, I play multiplayers, but I the rest of my team ganged up on me and shot me, over and over for 15 minutes!
So the issue isn't that it's hard to find a "gamer girl", it's that it's hard to find a girl who's as hopelessly obsessive about their hobby. Putting "several hours a day" into any hobby is kind of...pathetic? Unless you're retired or something, maybe. And yeah, people who pour that kind of time into such a hobby would likely have a hard time finding ANY girl, much less one who's into the same thing.BloatedGuppy said:Again, though...many gamers put several hours a DAY into their hobby. If I was putting several hours a day into watching films or sports, I would damn well want a partner who at the very least appreciated it and was willing to indulge me. I have a co-worker who is very outdoorsy. Loves hiking and camping. Goes every weekend. Guess how many women he's willing to date who don't share this interest? The correct answer is zero.everythingbeeps said:But it's not like this with any other hobby. Finding girls into sports? Movies? Reading? No big deal. But "gamer girl" has turned into this mythic creature like Bigfoot. People hear stories that they exist, but nobody's ever seen a real one.
(It also doesn't help that you have so many phonies out there, girls who pretend to be geeks because of all the attention it gets them.)
I game a lot. I've dated women who treated the hobby with suspicion and disdain, and I've dated women who were tolerant of it, and now I'm dating a woman who loves it and likes to talk about it with me and plays the same games I do. Unsurprisingly, I vastly prefer the latter.
Shared interests isn't THE most important thing in a relationship, but it's pretty goddam important.
Sean, stop being a perv!Sean Hollyman said:That sounds.... highly.. suggestive.putowtin said:I'm a girl, I play games, I play multiplayers, but I the rest of my team ganged up on me and shot me, over and over for 15 minutes!
Don't blame the guys, blame the girls who do this. There may not be that many (but make no mistake, there are plenty), but they're all fucking on television or employed by video game sites. And they're all hot, except for Jessica Chobot or whatever her name is.Phasmal said:Bleh, I hate this kind of thinking.everythingbeeps said:(It also doesn't help that you have so many phonies out there, girls who pretend to be geeks because of all the attention it gets them.)
There are not that many people who actually do that, but some guys are so uptight about it that I've actually been quizzed on gaming several times by dudes `just to make sure`. It's like they must keep the nerd-lines pure!
If dudes can't tell people who are genuinely into gaming apart from the ones who are just pretending then it's their problem.
What a bunch of dicks...putowtin said:I'm a girl, I play games, I play multiplayers, but I don't advertise the fact I'm female as the last time I mentioned that in a multiplayer the rest of my team ganged up on me and shot me, over and over for 15 minutes!
Huh... my comment, your comment... your avatar... = ¬_¬Sean Hollyman said:That sounds.... highly.. suggestive.
1. I don't really judge how other people spend their time. Partly because it's none of my concern, and partly because I don't consider myself an arbitrator on what is or is not a worthwhile recreational pursuit.everythingbeeps said:So the issue isn't that it's hard to find a "gamer girl", it's that it's hard to find a girl who's as hopelessly obsessive about their hobby. Putting "several hours a day" into any hobby is kind of...pathetic? Unless you're retired or something, maybe. And yeah, people who pour that kind of time into such a hobby would likely have a hard time finding ANY girl, much less one who's into the same thing.
I also think that refusing to date someone who doesn't share all your interests is stupid, and probably not very smart.
See, I don't think shared interests are necessary, especially if you only indulge those interests for reasonable amounts of time (read: not "several hours a day"). Because I'm not one of those people who thinks a couple needs to spend every fucking waking minute together. I'd hate to be with someone who shared all my interests. How boring would that be? You'd have stuff to talk about, for a while, sure, but neither of you are really helping each other grow or try new things. I like knowing that certain things are "mine", not "ours".
No. I'm blaming the guys.everythingbeeps said:Don't blame the guys, blame the girls who do this. There may not be that many (but make no mistake, there are plenty), but they're all fucking on television or employed by video game sites. And they're all hot, except for Jessica Chobot or whatever her name is.Phasmal said:Bleh, I hate this kind of thinking.everythingbeeps said:(It also doesn't help that you have so many phonies out there, girls who pretend to be geeks because of all the attention it gets them.)
There are not that many people who actually do that, but some guys are so uptight about it that I've actually been quizzed on gaming several times by dudes `just to make sure`. It's like they must keep the nerd-lines pure!
If dudes can't tell people who are genuinely into gaming apart from the ones who are just pretending then it's their problem.
What about my avatar :SSckizoBoy said:What a bunch of dicks...putowtin said:I'm a girl, I play games, I play multiplayers, but I don't advertise the fact I'm female as the last time I mentioned that in a multiplayer the rest of my team ganged up on me and shot me, over and over for 15 minutes!
Huh... my comment, your comment... your avatar... = ¬_¬Sean Hollyman said:That sounds.... highly.. suggestive.
I'm afraid I'm going to need to see your GAMER CREDENTIALS ma'am. Just in case you're only posting here in order to get ATTENTION from me!Phasmal said:No. I'm blaming the guys.
If you automatically assume that just because I'm female I must be interested in my own hobby just to get attention from the guys of the nerd community, you're an asshole and will be treated as such.
And you should really be able to tell a fake gamer from a real one.
putowtin said:Sean, stop being a perv!Sean Hollyman said:That sounds.... highly.. suggestive.putowtin said:I'm a girl, I play games, I play multiplayers, but I the rest of my team ganged up on me and shot me, over and over for 15 minutes!
I'd say how would you like it if three girls ganged up on you, but you'd probably like it... might even pay for it!
Oh don't worry, I wouldn't assume that about you.Phasmal said:No. I'm blaming the guys.everythingbeeps said:Don't blame the guys, blame the girls who do this. There may not be that many (but make no mistake, there are plenty), but they're all fucking on television or employed by video game sites. And they're all hot, except for Jessica Chobot or whatever her name is.Phasmal said:Bleh, I hate this kind of thinking.everythingbeeps said:(It also doesn't help that you have so many phonies out there, girls who pretend to be geeks because of all the attention it gets them.)
There are not that many people who actually do that, but some guys are so uptight about it that I've actually been quizzed on gaming several times by dudes `just to make sure`. It's like they must keep the nerd-lines pure!
If dudes can't tell people who are genuinely into gaming apart from the ones who are just pretending then it's their problem.
If you automatically assume that just because I'm female I must be interested in my own hobby just to get attention from the guys of the nerd community, you're an asshole and will be treated as such.
And you should really be able to tell a fake gamer from a real one.
Of course, I shouldn't blame guys for stereotyping me because the evil fake-gamer women are making them?everythingbeeps said:Oh don't worry, I wouldn't assume that about you.
But I would assume that you're one of those ultra-femenists who blame guys for everything.
2. Well, it is if you're a shut-in who spends 8 hours a day playing video games.BloatedGuppy said:1. I don't really judge how other people spend their time. Partly because it's none of my concern, and partly because I don't consider myself an arbitrator on what is or is not a worthwhile recreational pursuit.everythingbeeps said:So the issue isn't that it's hard to find a "gamer girl", it's that it's hard to find a girl who's as hopelessly obsessive about their hobby. Putting "several hours a day" into any hobby is kind of...pathetic? Unless you're retired or something, maybe. And yeah, people who pour that kind of time into such a hobby would likely have a hard time finding ANY girl, much less one who's into the same thing.
I also think that refusing to date someone who doesn't share all your interests is stupid, and probably not very smart.
See, I don't think shared interests are necessary, especially if you only indulge those interests for reasonable amounts of time (read: not "several hours a day"). Because I'm not one of those people who thinks a couple needs to spend every fucking waking minute together. I'd hate to be with someone who shared all my interests. How boring would that be? You'd have stuff to talk about, for a while, sure, but neither of you are really helping each other grow or try new things. I like knowing that certain things are "mine", not "ours".
2. No, it's not hard to find people who share your recreational proclivities.
3. I'm thrilled you don't think shared interests are necessary. I don't enjoy spending every waking moment of the day together either, Dr. Strawman. But it's nice to have common ground with someone you love. Weird, that.
4. Your bizarre, sneering, judgmental tone is actually getting kind of confusing. I'd assume you were just grinding an axe, but I have no idea about what, or against whom. Apparently the concept of people sharing a hobby is REPUGNANT to you. Look at those losers! Enjoying a hobby together! Pathetic! Let us stare down our noses at them!
No, I didn't "miss your point", I just fundamentally disagree with your argument, and I find your weirdly hostile tone about a perfectly tame subject straddles the line between amusing and confusing.everythingbeeps said:3, 4. Missed my point, it seems. Not interested in spending another ten minutes rewording shit to make you understand.
You're seeing hostility where there isn't any. Not really. Just because I'm dismissive of people who waste away playing video games, doesn't mean I'm hostile to them. I could ask you why you're so determined to defend such an obviously unhealthy lifestyle (and saying "it's not my concern" isn't nearly enough to justify your defense of it.)BloatedGuppy said:No, I didn't "miss your point", I just fundamentally disagree with your argument, and I find your weirdly hostile tone about a perfectly tame subject straddles the line between amusing and confusing.everythingbeeps said:3, 4. Missed my point, it seems. Not interested in spending another ten minutes rewording shit to make you understand.
However, if it pleases you to believe your argument was extraordinarily complex and intellectually demanding, and that my poor plebe brain just cannot comprehend it, then you are free to do so.
And this is where we need to discuss your strawman...one of a couple, really, but we'll stick to this one. I said that self-defined gamers often game for several hours a day. Several being defined as "more than two, but not many". You've taken that and gone straight to "shut-in" and "8 hours a day". That's quite a deductive leap. You also described it as "pathetic" and "hopelessly obsessive" to pursue ANY hobby for several hours a day. Which apparently would include fundamentally benign activities such as reading, or walking, or basically doing anything you enjoy. Got to keep it under 2 hours a day! Don't want to be obsessive!everythingbeeps said:You're seeing hostility where there isn't any. Not really. Just because I'm dismissive of people who waste away playing video games, doesn't mean I'm hostile to them. I could ask you why you're so determined to defend such an obviously unhealthy lifestyle (and saying "it's not my concern" isn't nearly enough to justify your defense of it.)