So if you never played the single-player of a game you aren't a gamer? Nice to see we respect each other here...easternflame said:This struck me, why only multiplayer, but then again you aren't a gamer, but 90 percent of the people in the escapist are gamers right? so I ask you now, do you still play the campaign or just the multiplayer?
EDIT as the results are going, it seems clear to me that the general gamer audience does play shooters for what they are.
No, by no means, what I mean is that in my school they weren't gamers. I wanted to know if GAMERS didn't play the campaign, maybe you like RpGs and you like multiplayer but not single player. don't jump to conclusions...Traun said:So if you never played the single-player of a game you aren't a gamer? Nice to see we respect each other here...easternflame said:This struck me, why only multiplayer, but then again you aren't a gamer, but 90 percent of the people in the escapist are gamers right? so I ask you now, do you still play the campaign or just the multiplayer?
EDIT as the results are going, it seems clear to me that the general gamer audience does play shooters for what they are.
By the same token one could say that of the single player, it is entirely possible that the single player campaign is just an extra feature that you may or may not choose to use (look at Unreal Tournament or the Battlefield series, both are examples of games where the single player is essentially just multiplayer with bots enabled and a tacked on narrative).Sinker said:I am with Yahtzee on this one a game needs to stand on single player alone any multi player feature is just that an added feature that I may or may not choose to use.
sorry I was being petty, needed the 'maybe' =Peasternflame said:Dude its right there, I play campaign then multiplaterChris^^ said:you didn't give the option for 'I play campaign then maybe the multiplayer', thats how I go with FPS games.. if I enjoy the gameplay enough then I'll give it a go with multiplayer, otherwise it's all campaign for me..easternflame said:snip
Actually no it is reasonable to bash a game for lacking a single player feature my enjoyment of a game should not be based solely on the actions of other people which is what happens when one plays multiplayer. Sure sometimes its great but other times you play with screaming ten year old children. If I shell out sixty dollars for a new game and find I can't play it with out being called some broken homophobic racial slur then that would be money wasted. So if a developer gives me a game and says we cut out the single player campaign so we could focus on muliplayer I say give me my money back.Iron Mal said:By the same token one could say that of the single player, it is entirely possible that the single player campaign is just an extra feature that you may or may not choose to use (look at Unreal Tournament or the Battlefield series, both are examples of games where the single player is essentially just multiplayer with bots enabled and a tacked on narrative).Sinker said:I am with Yahtzee on this one a game needs to stand on single player alone any multi player feature is just that an added feature that I may or may not choose to use.
A game shouldn't stand up because of it's single player or multiplayer alone, a game should stand up because it's good no matter how many people you choose to play it with (or not in the case of the single player), bashing a game for focusing on the multiplayer is just as narrow minded and stupid as bashing a game for putting too much empasis on singleplayer.
Yep. This is why Croshaw is my favorite reviewer.Daniel Laeben-Rosen said:Campaign. To paraphrase: A good game has to stand on singleplayer alone.
Some shooters I'll give the multiplayer a go, I even enjoy some multiplayer-shooters like Team Fortress 2 and Quake Live. But normally if I buy a game at full price with my limited economy, I expect the single-player to hold up on it's own.
Now, because I like you I'll share a little secret nugget of wisdom that I have aquired over many years of observation, gameplay, suffering through crap games, enjoying great games, reading forums, wrting on forums, reading and writing reviews (including a brief time as a forum mod on a friend's site), intense thought and reflection and other such things.Sinker said:Actually no it is reasonable to bash a game for lacking a single player feature my enjoyment of a game should not be based solely on the actions of other people which is what happens when one plays multiplayer. Sure sometimes its great but other times you play with screaming ten year old children. If I shell out sixty dollars for a new game and find I can't play it with out being called some broken homophobic racial slur then that would be money wasted. So if a developer gives me a game and says we cut out the single player campaign so we could focus on muliplayer I say give me my money back.