Poll: Do you support gay marriage?

[schtingah]

Let's give women the right to vote... but let's not call it voting. Voting has always been a man-only thing. It seems illogical to share a term that also is used to mean a completely conflicting and opposite meaning.

 

[L. Declis]

Of course I support gay marriage. I'm not a bigot, or ignorant (at least in regards to this matter).

I personally think that gay people will have much better married lives- why? Because they had to damn well fight for it. They won't be taking it for granted like most stupid, drunk, Vegas going hetero-couples who divorce a few hours later.

Maybe heterosexual people should have it taken away? "No, you can't get married until you appreciate the value of the ceremony". This was a joke. Sorta.

Personally, I dislike the religious overtones of the whole thing, and I can't think of a good argument against gay marriage, but there are an awful lot FOR gay marriage.

Also, don't put quotation marks around marriage, OP, it's offensive and makes you look like a "bigot". It's okay though, I put quotation marks around it.

Also, why do people think the phrase "It's just my opinion" shields them from any criticism? If you place it into public, you're allowing people to criticize it. And don't think that saying things like "Keep it classy" suddenly means that no one will call you on your views.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Pro-tip: don't argue with anyone who claims to be religious.

"Tell a devout Christian that his wife is cheating on him, or that frozen yogurt can make a man invisible, and he is likely to require as much evidence as anyone else, and to be persuaded only to the extent that you give it. Tell him that the book he keeps by his bed was written by an invisible deity who will punish him with fire for eternity if he fails to accept its every incredible claim about the universe, and he seems to require no evidence what so ever."

Sam Harris explains why.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Let's give women the right to vote... but let's not call it voting. Voting has always been a man-only thing. It seems illogical to share a term that also is used to mean a completely conflicting and opposite meaning.

Oh shit. That was pretty smooth, lol.

+10 internets

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Gay people should be able to marry the person they love, simple as that.

What if they love a four-year-old?

That's why I hate that argument.

 

[doggy go 7]

Go ahead and be happy; but please, and I do mean this in the most amicable way: Leave the term "marriage" to Man-and-Woman relationship. Since man could write and record, marriage has been used to define a Man and a Woman together.

Not true at all, marriage has been used to define whatever was convinient at the time, what about those people with many wives, like solomon? (this video explains it better than me, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQw0eLzfGNI&feature=channel&list=UL )

No sensible person believes gay marriage should be banned, and if you do, and you think you're sensible, as much as I respect religous belief, you're wrong. Full stop.

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

Let's give women the right to vote... but let's not call it voting. Voting has always been a man-only thing. It seems illogical to share a term that also is used to mean a completely conflicting and opposite meaning.

That's a really good example. I tried to think of one when I replied but couldn't.

The one in my head was "You can't use THESE water fountains, but you can have your own water fountains over there", but this one flows better.

I support Gay Marriage based on the fact it's a legal institution, was only made a religious one proper in 1600s (though from 110, various figures said it should be between man and a woman to avoid lust, which is just... superb), and that if we're following the old definition of marriage we should use the old definiton of gay. That means, "Man who sleeps with lots of women". So by my modern take, I support Gay Marriage, and if you're using the old meaning of the word, then fundamentalists do too. (In case this wasn't clear due to rambling, I'm saying that marriage as a word has changed meaning, so saying gay people can't get married because of an archaism is loopy). Pretty sure I didn't get that across well, but I support dudes marrying dudes and girls marrying girls.

Also

I'mjustgonnaleavethishere

 

[Hollyday]

No one has the right to tell Jesse Tyler Ferguson that he can't marry Alec Baldwin.


well... except Alec Baldwin.

I actually find the arguments against gay marriage offensive. I don't really have anything else to say about it.

 

[JayElleBee]

Nope. I don't support gay "marriage".

I support gay marriage minus the insulting quotation marks.

 

[Joccaren]

I don't see why marriage can't refer to same sex relationships. Words change as laws and society does.

Yep. So far as I'm concerned marriage is a union between two individuals in a monogamous relationship. Not sure if its also called marriage in a polygamous relationship, but if it is then I'll include that too.

I also believe it has affects on taxes or something if you are married or not. If its in the legal system, it should not be allowed to discriminate.

 

[Mr Pantomime]

Go ahead and be happy; but please, and I do mean this in the most amicable way: Leave the term "marriage" to Man-and-Woman relationship. Since man could write and record, marriage has been used to define a Man and a Woman together.

Again, I am perfectly fine with man-man and woman-woman relationships, but honestly, it seems illogical to share a term that also is used to mean a completely conflicting and opposite meaning.

So we're supposed to not call gay marriage "marriage" because marriage doesn't mean two men or women? (even though people have pointed out "marriage" pretty much means what you want it to). Thats forward thinking. Heres an idea, lets change that meaning. Instead of pointing to a dictionary and saying it doesn't mean that, take a stand and say "that meaning doesn't apply anymore, lets make a new meaning". Word change all the time. Not a huge deal.

The only reason not to call gay marriage "marriage" is so that you can say the union isn't really valid.

 

[BarbaricGoose]

but please, and I do mean this in the most amicable way: Leave the term "marriage" to Man-and-Woman relationship. Since man could write and record, marriage has been used to define a Man and a Woman together.

Again, I am perfectly fine with man-man and woman-woman relationships, but honestly, it seems illogical to share a term that also is used to mean a completely conflicting and opposite meaning.

The world is changing, and the meaning of words changes. To me, as a straight Atheist, the only thing that seems illogical is clinging to the idea that "Marriage" can only be defined as between a man & a woman. Why cling to an ideal simply because it was established a long time ago? We don't do that with much else. In fact, it seems the only things we cling to like that are outdated religious ideals. We don't burn "Witches" anymore, and we don't stone adulterers. You could argue that stoning someone is just a morally reprehensible thing to do, but forcing gay people to call their marriages something other than "Marriage" is also, in my opinion, morally wrong.

And really, how would your life, or any one else's, in any way at all, be impacted by gay people being included in the marriage definition? How does that affect you? I can't wrap my brain around that.

 

[Baron von Blitztank]

Why the hell is marriage in quotation marks? It kind of insults the topic in question doesn't it?
As for me. Yes, of course I support gay marriage! If there are two people who are in love with eachother and they want to spend their lives with one another then why the hell shouldn't they get married?

 

[DirgeNovak]

Gay people should be able to marry the person they love, simple as that.

What if they love a four-year-old?

That's why I hate that argument.

I know you're saying it in jest, but since someone is bound to make that argument seriously, let's counter it right here, right now: a four-year-old cannot sign a legal document. Neither can a dog, a sheep or an inanimate object. That's why this argument, or to use the TC's despicable vernacular, this "argument" has no value whatsoever.

 

[Caffiene]

Nope. I don't support gay "marriage".

I support gay marriage minus the insulting quotation marks.

Exactly.

Im certainly not convinced by the argument that "marriage has always been between a man and a woman". For starters, the history of marriage is very complicated, with periods where marriage had no ritual and all that was required is for a couple to tell the authorities that they got married, periods where all sorts of different combinations of men and women were considered commonplace... and of course the vast majority of history where the word "marriage" didnt exist, and Im not at all sure that the words currently translated meant exactly and only the same the current religious definition.

Even the roots of where the word marriage comes from themselves only go back to about the 1200s.

And apart from that, even if the premise is true its what logicians would call an argument from antiquity. If we stuck with ideas just because thats what we did in the past, we'd still be cutting holes in our skulls to let out the bad spirits as the hallmark of modern medicine.

captcha: Love is automatic

 

[LilithSlave]

Go ahead and be happy; but please, and I do mean this in the most amicable way: Leave the term "marriage" to Man-and-Woman relationship. Since man could write and record, marriage has been used to define a Man and a Woman together.

So, that's one culture. You realize there are other cultures, with words for monogamy that don't sound anything like the word "marriage", right?

Soooo, if two Chinese people wed, are they not married? After all, they're Chinese, they don't use the term marriage, so they aren't married, are they? Chinese people better not call their legal arrangement a "marriage" if they come to America. It's a Christian tradition, and they deserve the term "civil union". They're not married, they're Chinese.

And if it is just a word, why is such a legal thing?

 

[somonels]

Ahh, the common polarizing trap. No, I don't support gay marriage and here's why - I don't care. I would not bother to do anything about it and nothing against it; they want it, let them fight for it.
/grabs popcorn and yells "Let there be blood!"