The thing is, this same argument was used when interracial couples wanted to get married, now look where we are. It is the equivalent of saying back in the civil rights movement "The Blacks should be happy we let them on the bus anyway." I want complete equality, and if you do not want gay marriage, don't get gay married.Khazidhea said:I am not trying to force my beliefs on anyone else, yet I am as entitled as anyone else to stand up for what I believe in. And in this case I am standing up for my definition of marriage, NOT on how I view other people should be able to conduct their relationships. Others don't believe what I do, and as such shouldn't be held to the standards I believe in. Yet we have legal restrictions that we need to obey, and we are all equally allowed to pursue our beliefs and try and get laws changed.George Barrow said:Yes, it does make it less valid, because who the hell are you to force your own archaic beliefs onto someone who does not follow them. I believe in equal rights for everyone, and I believe that your messiah did as well.
I agree that gay people should be able to pursue their right to have a relationship in whatever manner they care to, and as such should be able to have the equal rights/benefits as anyone else in a comparable position, and are as deserving of entering a familial unit. I am not affected by their relationship, and it is no less likely to better or worse than those of current marriages. What I am disagreeing with is a matter of language, why should the term marriage be extended past what it is currently, why shouldn't a new term arise and be adapted for this purpose? I am not judging here, I am not trying to seeking to make either side 'lesser', they should, under law be equal. But, while equal, I don't believe they are the same.
I haven't been here long, but I think if this place ran the world it might be a nice place to live.BringBackBuck said:You guys are awesome.
I just dislike the way they're going about it. Arguing that anyone in love should be allowed to marry is not how you're gonna win anyone over.Kakulukia said:I know you're saying it in jest, but since someone is bound to make that argument seriously, let's counter it right here, right now: a four-year-old cannot sign a legal document. Neither can a dog, a sheep or an inanimate object. That's why this argument, or to use the TC's despicable vernacular, this "argument" has no value whatsoever.Grey Day for Elcia said:What if they love a four-year-old?RyoScar said:Gay people should be able to marry the person they love, simple as that.
That's why I hate that argument.
A few questions related to that:Random Fella said:I just believe marriage is the coming together of two people who can create genetic offspring.
Well, there's the fact that it's Step 3 on the Gay Agenda for world domination.Vault101 said:I've yet to see a decent argument in its oposition
Okay, let me rephrase thatCaffiene said:A few questions related to that:Random Fella said:I just believe marriage is the coming together of two people who can create genetic offspring.
- Would you support a law forcing a marriage of a man and a woman to divorce once the woman reaches menopause?
- Would support a law making so that infertile men or women are prevented from marrying?
- Should couples be forced to undergo a fertility test before marriage?
- Would you support a law to prevent married couples from adopting? (since if they adopt, they will generally produce fewer genetic offspring)
because sterile people, old people and transexual people can't get married at all, so you're not being really hypocriticle. marriage is about children the same way that TV is about talent shows, certainly there's an aspect there, but it's not the main point.Random Fella said:I have no problem with homosexuals at all, I just believe marriage is the coming together of two people who can create genetic offspring.
that one made me titter, well played sir.Mikeyfell said:So you're saying no one should be allowed to get married.Blobpie said:Everyone has a right to be happy
Ba-dum Tish.