Poll: Do you think that you exist?
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Regardless of whether or not I exist, something exists which allows the illusion of me (and you) to take place. Even if this is a dream of a dream, there still is a dream and there is something dreaming--it seems highly unlikely that there could be an illusion without any reality in any other dimension or anything like that.
However, there is no objective way to determine whether or not I or anybody else is in fact 'real,' in the sense that we are actually self-aware consciousnesses and are indeed situated roughly physically in this universe as we have determined, so I put the stamp of "Unknown" on the case file.
However, there is no objective way to determine whether or not I or anybody else is in fact 'real,' in the sense that we are actually self-aware consciousnesses and are indeed situated roughly physically in this universe as we have determined, so I put the stamp of "Unknown" on the case file.
I think therefore I exist.
Within the ten dimensions, there are a lot of variables that cover a lot of things. Even imaginary things exist, therefore since I incur a change whether in my own head or externally - I exist.
Within the ten dimensions, there are a lot of variables that cover a lot of things. Even imaginary things exist, therefore since I incur a change whether in my own head or externally - I exist.
This. It's like free will versus fate. If I have free will, good, I'll use it. If I don't, why the fuck should I get depressed or thoughtful about it? I'm just another cog in the machine and I mine as well play my role, since I don't have a choice anyways.Asturiel said:
Also existence is on different levels. The word "exist" exists not as a physical entity, but as print on pages, thoughts that fit language in your mind, and is in its own realm. To a person not using the word "exist" or having ever seen it, it doesn't exist in their world.Yet.
Potentially in some things, you can make something exist just by believing it, thinking of it, or utilizing it. For example, let's say I believe in Christianity, and I'm motivated by my love for Jesus's philosophy to go help the poor. If I hadn't been a believer I wouldn't have done that and more poor would have died. Ergo, Jesus had tangible influence in this world. So does Allah everytime a suicide bomb goes off and so did the Christian God everytime a Muslim or Jew was killed in the Crusades.
From what i understand of it, Kant gives a pretty good reason for both myself and the world (at least in some respect) existing. However if i were to try and explain it here i would no doubt fail spectacularly. I suggest people do look it up though it's interesting stuff
You should explore quantum mechanics, (the laws of physics that dictate how atoms & sub-atomic particles behave). Things at that level exist in a fuzzy state of probability. Particles act like waves of possibility... until we measure them, (i.e. look at them). Scientists believe particles act like waves until we try to find a particle. When we look for a particle, the wave collapses into a solid particle.
Look up the dual slit experiment. An electron is shot at a barrier with 2 slits in it. I don't have time to get into it much, but according to the math, it goes through the left slit, it goes through the right slit, AND it goes through both slits. All possibilities exists simultaneously. According to experiment the results depend on where you look. If you look at the slits, you see a solid electron passing through a single slit. If you look at the solid barrier after the dual slit barrier, the electron looks like a wave that went through both slits and interfered with itself.
Sounds crazy, but the question is not "Do we exist?" the question is "Does the world exist if we don't look at it?"
Look up the dual slit experiment. An electron is shot at a barrier with 2 slits in it. I don't have time to get into it much, but according to the math, it goes through the left slit, it goes through the right slit, AND it goes through both slits. All possibilities exists simultaneously. According to experiment the results depend on where you look. If you look at the slits, you see a solid electron passing through a single slit. If you look at the solid barrier after the dual slit barrier, the electron looks like a wave that went through both slits and interfered with itself.
Sounds crazy, but the question is not "Do we exist?" the question is "Does the world exist if we don't look at it?"
I'm only here to act as an ambassador to earth for the Guinea Pig overlords.
I exist because they allow me to.
I exist because they allow me to.
As far as we can understand, humans are sentient. How this occurs is still a mystery but it if you don't count your body as part of your existence and focus on your mind then if ideas, memories, and the like exist it is reasonable to conclude that you exist.
I am thinking, there for I exist. The only thing I can know with absolute certainty is that I exist. Even if what I am experiencing is all my imagination, and I am just a brain in a vat, there is some objective plane of existence where I exist.Sewblon said:
"I think, therefore I am." - Rene Descartes
"I don't think very much, therefore I might not be." - Me
"I don't think very much, therefore I might not be." - Me
