Poll: Do you think this is sexist?

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zehydra

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Giest4life said:
zehydra said:
DarkRyter said:
It acknowledges a difference in gender.

Sexist? Yeah.

A big deal? A huge social injustice? The sigil of doom for society? No.
How is calling someone a woman sexist?
Well, it's virtus dormitiva. It is sexist by the very literal definition of the word. Identifying the gender of someone or something, even if it's not meant to be derogatory, is still sexism, just not in the traditional sense of the word.
No, it is discriminating based upon sex, not just identifying someone as a particular sex.
 

zehydra

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bdcjacko said:
zehydra said:
bdcjacko said:
In this case you were being sexist. Why would you go from landlord to landlady?
How is it sexist exactly?
Nisselue said:
bdcjacko said:
In this case you were being sexist. Why would you go from landlord to landlady?
Umm...because the landlord was a lady?
Because gratuitously correcting someone who used a gender neutral word to a gender specific is on the sexist side. But in the end, there are more important things to worry about.
you still haven't answered my question. Why is "Because gratuitously correcting someone who used a gender neutral word to a gender specific word" sexist?
 

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Because gratuitously correcting someone who used a gender neutral word to a gender specific is on the sexist side. But in the end, there are more important things to worry about.
Landlord is gender neutral? Isn't Lord male?
 

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bdcjacko said:
zehydra said:
bdcjacko said:
In this case you were being sexist. Why would you go from landlord to landlady?
How is it sexist exactly?
Nisselue said:
bdcjacko said:
In this case you were being sexist. Why would you go from landlord to landlady?
Umm...because the landlord was a lady?
Because gratuitously correcting someone who used a gender neutral word to a gender specific is on the sexist side. But in the end, there are more important things to worry about.
Lord is gender nuetral? I thought you only referred to guys as lord. Lord = male. Lady = female.
Edit: whoops, nuetral not natural
 

Mandalore_15

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bdcjacko said:
Nisselue said:
bdcjacko said:
In this case you were being sexist. Why would you go from landlord to landlady?
Umm...because the landlord was a lady?
Because gratuitously correcting someone who used a gender neutral word to a gender specific is on the sexist side. But in the end, there are more important things to worry about.
But "Landlord" ISN'T GENDER NEUTRAL... *sigh*
 

Giest4life

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zehydra said:
Giest4life said:
zehydra said:
DarkRyter said:
It acknowledges a difference in gender.

Sexist? Yeah.

A big deal? A huge social injustice? The sigil of doom for society? No.
How is calling someone a woman sexist?
Well, it's virtus dormitiva. It is sexist by the very literal definition of the word. Identifying the gender of someone or something, even if it's not meant to be derogatory, is still sexism, just not in the traditional sense of the word.
No, it is discriminating based upon sex, not just identifying someone as a particular sex.
Yes, and that would be the popular definition of "sexist" rather than the literal definition of it.
 

bdcjacko

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zehydra said:
bdcjacko said:
zehydra said:
bdcjacko said:
In this case you were being sexist. Why would you go from landlord to landlady?
How is it sexist exactly?
Nisselue said:
bdcjacko said:
In this case you were being sexist. Why would you go from landlord to landlady?
Umm...because the landlord was a lady?
Because gratuitously correcting someone who used a gender neutral word to a gender specific is on the sexist side. But in the end, there are more important things to worry about.
you still haven't answered my question. Why is "Because gratuitously correcting someone who used a gender neutral word to a gender specific word" sexist?
Because unnecessarily defining someone by sex is the very definition of sexist.
 

Hitokiri_Gensai

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i think its mainly that you seemingly called her on it. Otherwise id say no, its not. But no one really wants to be corrected
 

NightmareWarden

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Daystar Clarion said:
Nobody likes having their speech corrected with a fine-tooth comb.
I agree that this was probably part of it. I don't think that it is sexist, and in this specific case I can understand why it would be acceptable to use either term to recognize a female landlord.
 

DarkRyter

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zehydra said:
DarkRyter said:
It acknowledges a difference in gender.

Sexist? Yeah.

A big deal? A huge social injustice? The sigil of doom for society? No.
How is calling someone a woman sexist?
For you to call someone a woman, you would have to take their gender into account.

You can call a woman a woman, but you can not call a man a woman. Something applies to one group, but not the other, thus discrimination based upon sex.

Sexism.

Like I said, not a big deal.
 

bdcjacko

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DementedSheep said:
bdcjacko said:
zehydra said:
bdcjacko said:
In this case you were being sexist. Why would you go from landlord to landlady?
How is it sexist exactly?
Nisselue said:
bdcjacko said:
In this case you were being sexist. Why would you go from landlord to landlady?
Umm...because the landlord was a lady?
Because gratuitously correcting someone who used a gender neutral word to a gender specific is on the sexist side. But in the end, there are more important things to worry about.
Lord is gender natural? I thought you only referred to guys as lord. Lord = male. Lady = female.
Mandalore_15 said:
bdcjacko said:
Nisselue said:
bdcjacko said:
In this case you were being sexist. Why would you go from landlord to landlady?
Umm...because the landlord was a lady?
Because gratuitously correcting someone who used a gender neutral word to a gender specific is on the sexist side. But in the end, there are more important things to worry about.
But "Landlord" ISN'T GENDER NEUTRAL... *sigh*
Landlord is the owner of a house, apartment, condominium, or real estate which is rented or leased to an individual or business, who is called a tenant (also a lessee or renter). When a juristic person is in this position, the term landlord is used. Other terms include lessor and owner. The term landlady may be used in some jurisdictions for female owners, but landlord can apply to both genders.
Landlord is the gender neutral term now a days.
 

Lilani

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Mandalore_15 said:
I don't think it's sexist. You're not insulting them or treating them second-class citizens or anything. You're just failing to use the "proper" gender of whatever their title is. Calling Anne Hathaway an actor instead of an doesn't change what she does, and nor is it change the significance of her title.

DarkRyter said:
It acknowledges a difference in gender.

Sexist? Yeah.

A big deal? A huge social injustice? The sigil of doom for society? No.
I don't get what you are saying. This is the definition of sexism:

sex·ism [sek-siz-uhm] noun
1.
attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
2.
discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex, as in restricted job opportunities; especially, such discrimination directed against women.
The only way acknowledging a difference in gender is sexist is if it is discriminatory or restrictive. Otherwise, it's just acknowledging a trait, no different from acknowledging that someone is a certain height, age, weight, or race.
 
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First of all, English tends to use masculine as the gender-normative term for neuter for people, but the feminine for objects. That's just how English works.

Secondly, landlord and landlady are differing terms. It depends on which one you mean. A woman can still be a Lord, but a man can't often be a Lady.

(Excepting Little Britain)

So, it's not sexist...just a case of prejorative terms being used for multiple gender states. In the same way that Pilot is a masculine term, but can apply to both genders. Same with Chaps.

Toaster tends to be feminine. As does Pen, Hammer and Sword - despite being thought of as "Masculine" items. Guns are almost always feminine, despite the obvious phallic nature.

While you weren't being sexist...you were probably wrong. Her Landlord is Chloe.
 

DarkRyter

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Lilani said:
I don't get what you are saying. This is the definition of sexism:

sex·ism [sek-siz-uhm] noun
1.
attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
2.
discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex, as in restricted job opportunities; especially, such discrimination directed against women.
The only way acknowledging a difference in gender is sexist is if it is discriminatory or restrictive. Otherwise, it's just acknowledging a trait, no different from acknowledging that someone is a certain height, age, weight, or race.
DarkRyter said:
For you to call someone a woman, you would have to take their gender into account.

You can call a woman a woman, but you can not call a man a woman. Something applies to one group, but not the other, thus discrimination based upon sex.

Sexism.

Like I said, not a big deal.
I think this DarkRyter person summed up my thoughts pretty well.

Man, such a cool person.
 

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Lilani said:
Mandalore_15 said:
I don't think it's sexist. You're not insulting them or treating them second-class citizens or anything. You're just failing to use the "proper" gender of whatever their title is. Calling Anne Hathaway an actor instead of an doesn't change what she does, and nor is it change the significance of her title.

DarkRyter said:
It acknowledges a difference in gender.

Sexist? Yeah.

A big deal? A huge social injustice? The sigil of doom for society? No.
I don't get what you are saying. This is the definition of sexism:

sex·ism [sek-siz-uhm] noun
1.
attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
2.
discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex, as in restricted job opportunities; especially, such discrimination directed against women.
The only way acknowledging a difference in gender is sexist is if it is discriminatory or restrictive. Otherwise, it's just acknowledging a trait, no different from acknowledging that someone is a certain height, age, weight, or race.
Landlord is traditionally a male role. A female landlord must be something other than a landlord. Attitude based on a traditional stereotype? Yep.

One may also infer that the distinction is important because of some positive or negative trait landlords do not share with landladies.

I'm not arguing for this position, but that answers your question.
 

DementedSheep

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Even if Landlord is gender neutral this still isn?t a sexism issue. It?s just confusion cause by the English language being weird.
 

Jakub324

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If you call a landlady a landlord, you're calling her a bloke, which isn't sexist, but it's pretty offensive.