Poll: Does a game have to be mature to be more enjoyable?

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Dragonpit

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You need to better define what you mean by 'mature.' For example, the movie, 'Up' could be considered mature since it deals with death early in the movie.

It seems for most people, to say something is mature means it has blood, gore, maybe implied nudity or sex, and/or other topics you wouldn't see being shown to children. But it doesn't need to have all that just to be enjoyable. It's a foolish and narrow point of view, simply because a part of the world is being denied for a reason that shouldn't be hampering it.

I think if something is mature, truly mature, then it doesn't treat the audience like an idiot, regardless of age or mentality. It would showcase its material in a way that isn't generally offensive and still be a blast.

Therefore, a game doesn't have to be Black Ops or Gears of War or Halo to be enjoyable. That kind of 'maturity' is sort of nice, but not generally needed.

Besides, we have Duke Nukem.
 

tigermilk

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Ahh, I thought the OP meant mature as in intelligent (in my opinion GTA IV for example) as opposed to mature as in violent (Black Ops).

No of course a game doesn't need to be violent to be more enjoyable to answer the OP's borderline rhetorical question.
 

Above

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Not at all!

On the mature side,i like CoD,Gears and Fable III Etc.

However,i also like Banjo and kazooie,Ratchet And clank, Kinectimals... , Etc.
 

hazabaza1

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Ratchet and Clank, Banjo Kazooie, Kirby, Mario, Sonic (earlier ones), Minecraft (to an extent) and many many more games say no to your friends quite frankly stupid idea.
 

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I voted BLACK OOOOPS!!, mainly because I find that quite a lot of serious games that are enjoyable because they deal with mature content are ruined by people acting like little kids. E.G, riding horses off of cliffs in Red Dead or teabagging in just about every shooter.
 

Asiakoth

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I could just simply say "No. Your friend is a moron and needs to be beaten with a copy of Lego Star Wars as soon as humanly possible." But instead, I'm going to have fun with this. I am going to take some time right now to have a little fun, and by fun I mean I am about to say some stuff that will make people want to either shake my hand or rip out my left lung. Let's compare a few "kiddie" games with a few "mature" games, shall we? (Note, I am guessing your friend simply means games tarted at an adult audience, ie rated M for Mature, when he uses the term "mature" because any logical human being who actually IS mature is also aware that something doesn't necessarily have to be targeted at them and their tastes to be good.)

First lets warm up with a bit of a curb stomp battle. Let's compare Sonic Colors, a game clearly targeted at a younger audience complete with an E rating and, as the title sorta implies, lots of shiny colors, with SEGA's attempt at a more "mature" take on the same franchise with Shadow the Hedgehog. If you already can't see where this is heading, you clearly have been living under a God Damn PLANT until recently. As any once wide eyed, hope filled Sonic fan (myself included) can tell you, good ol' ShTH was about as fun as has having one's eyeballs forcibly removed with a nail clipper. Seriously, it's been over half a decade now and there are still people I know who freakin' shudder every time they see that god damn Super Sonic recolor. Sure the game TIRED to be more "mature" but unfortunately blood, guns, and and some curse words do not make for a good game, especially when said game is basically a crappy, broken mess of a mod slapped on top of a mediocre at BEST game (Sonic Heroes). Meanwhile you have last year's Sonic Colors. Is it mature? Nope, it's definitely made for the younger audience in mind, but it's so much fun that it doesn't matter. The 3D to 2.5D gameplay blend works to keep the game from being "push right/forward and jump sometimes to WIN!" and I walked away from the game feeling like my $50 were well spent, unlike Shadow where the god damn BEANIE that came free with the game was the better product, and that damn thing was too small for me..... and I don't wear beanies.... oh well, at least the Sonic Riders T-shirt (which is also of infinitely better quality then the game it was made to promote. Seriously it's a pretty comfy shirt.) fits me well.

"Oh, but the Sonic series was having trouble anyways" you might say, well then how about another little comparison. I know, let's take a little trip back to 2008, ooooh what an interesting year that was, and this time lets compare a "kiddie" game with a game that wasn't well.... crap on a disc. In the "kiddie" corner, we have a little known game called Tales of Vesperia, you know, that one Xbox 360 installment of that JRPG series that isn't Final Fantasy, but no one played it anyways because JRPGs, especially ones with beautifully colorful graphics, have Japanese Cooties (It's like normal cooties but with tentacles <3). Representing more mature games is (FLAME SHIELDS RAISED) Fable 2, released the same year for the same system. Now, don't get me wrong, I had fun with Fable 2, but I only played it twice. Once as sort of "Doing my own thing based on how I would react" yada etc, then I played again a second time as the unholiest evil spawn from Hell. Once I did that though, I really never felt a desire to go back and play again. Why? Well, despite all of it's "mature" content there really isn't much there. The combat gets dull quickly, the storyline is pretty basic, and it suffers from pretty much every problem found in "nonlinar" Western RPGs (I obviously use the term nonlinear loosely here because well... beyond the "moral choices" and being able to fart at people, there isn't much "open endedness" to be had) Also worth noting in terms of mature content is, of course, the sex..... or well... poorly voice acted clips of people pretending to have sex, which frankly only serves to make the game less engaging and more of the perfect example of why mature content can land you a spot in "So bad it's HILARIOUS" territory. It also doesn't help that frankly the charaters in the game are either not engaging at all or are hardly ever present, which not only makes the plot even less interesting but just goes to further disengage me. Seriously Peter? Why should I want to bother marrying a bloody SIM? Meanwhile ToV is filled with a pretty good size cast of enjoyable charaters, including one of the greatest protagonists in gaming ever (Try to deny it, call him out for looking like a girl, whatever. Your protests will be ignored because the sentence for insulting Yuri is..... decapitation. Seriously though I love his deadpan snarker sense of humor backed up by complete badassiness). Is the game realistic? No, not at all. Is it mature? No.... and yes. I say no because well... it's a T rated game so blood, violence, land language are kept to a minimum but the storyline does dive into some pretty mature stuff, and does include scenes involving massive wars, political struggles, blurred lines between good and evil, and suicide (If you know the scene I refer to with the last one, Go ahead and take a second to get a tissue. I cried at that scene as well.) Now let's compare this with the more mature Fable 2 for a second, what mature themes did it explo......... Oh... sister got killed, that IS kinda dark I guess but is there anything else? Okay my actions have consequences.... okay sure, but my character gaining a couple of pounds from munchies isn't a big deal really, and I could care less about what the SIMs walking around me think. Oh, I guess there's something about chaos and the world and order or some..... okay, we're not really going to dive any deeper then a jar of baby food, are we? .... And now my dog just broke the jar and now I have smashed carrots all over my shirt. Thanks a lot Peter, you over-promising, lier jerkface. I will also take a moment to note that ToV is probably one of my favorite video games EVER that I have played through several times while Fable 2 is pretty much a "meh was good while it lasted" piece. Also ToV is now available for a damn worth-it price on Games on Demand on Xbox Live. If you haven't played it, you should. Take it from someone who HATES Final Fantasy.

Okay, one last comparison (Since is your still reading this you have WAY to much time and probably should be doing something more productive then reading a random dude's post in a rather silly topic) This time let's just pick to games from each category that have NO RELATION to each other. Let's see, for the "kiddie" side, let's take take the colorful, lighthearted and well beloved Mario series, Super Mario Bros to be specific and compare it tooooo.....hmmmm.....oh I know, DAIKATANA!...... What? Why are you looking at me like that? Okay fine, let's go with DMZ: North Korea. Don't remember it? Oh no problem, it was just a little known First Person Shooter, complete with a mature content fueled M rating, delivered by Vivendi, you know the guys who owned Blizzard before being assimilated into the Bor... I mean Activision. So why havn't heard of it, or if you had why you don't remember it? Because it SUCKED. The enemy AI made Fable 2's SIMs look like an army of Leonardo Da Vincis, the story was complete garbage, the graphics looked like something most grade schoolers would be embarrassed to put in a portfolio, and the gameplay was about as much fun as having those nail clippers I mentioned earlier being used to remove the rest of your internal organs, and the person using them is Yamcha from Dragonball...... Evolution. And that is why you don't remeber it, a game from 2007, when you can recall a game from 1985 just fine, because the 2007 game SUCKED and the 1985 game is a beloved classic REGARDLESS of any "kiddieness" present.

Now, if you were paying attention through all of that, you probably picked up an something. In all three of those comparisons my focused was directed at the actual QUALITY OF THE CONTENT, as oppose to the "maturity" of it. Just like with a book, or a movie, or ANYTHING if it's good, the target audience means NOTHING. All it means is that said media was created with a certain audience in mind, but in no way is anyone outside of said audience not allowed to enjoy it as well. Just ask fans of the new My Little Pony series, or fans of Shinryaku! Ika Musume, or fans of .... well.... ANYTHING. Even stuff that isn't targeted at kids isn't labeled as good or bad just based off of the target audience it's made for, not even the target audience judges based off of that, though certainly they may be more accepting of it.

You, my good sir, go on enjoying your Ratchet and Clank like the good man that you are, and if your "friend" decides to rant about the sin of a teenager enjoying a "kid's" game, feel free to call him a grade F moron. Now if you excuse me I have to go pay my respects to Mister Whitehourse (If you got that without missing a beat then congrats, you are a geek).

tl;dr
No. Your friend is a moron and needs to be beaten with a copy of Lego Star Wars as soon as humanly possible.
 

Zantos

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Racecarlock said:
Well, it really depends on what your definition of mature is.
I think the OP is going for the ESRB rated M for mature definition. For those of us not american it comes down to "Does a game need to be 18 rated (or a particularly juicy 15) for it to be fun".

OT: It doesn't have to be mature, but there are features associated with mature games that some people prefer such as more realistic artistic styles. Admittedly though your friend was just being a bit of a douche, just because it wasn't the sort of thing that he liked he didn't have to have a go. I normally get the exact opposite, that 18 rated OTT masculine games are a ridiculous idea because the only people that will actually enjoy them are too young to buy them.

Essentially what you have to do is respond "Is it cold and lonely up on your highground? Prick."
 

TiefBlau

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I love how in the poll, the "OPS" in "BLACK OPS" really just looks like "OOOOOPS", as if to be followed by "MY BAD".
 

Jezzascmezza

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When a game/movie is "mature" rated, it means that the game/film makers may have been less creatively restricted by forcing the game/movie to be suitable for a wider demographic.
So in all honesty, a game can be more enjoyable if it's mature-rated.
That's not to say E rated games can't be fun though...
 

Bat Vader

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I don't believe so. I enjoy playing games like Civilization IV, Medieval: Total War, Marvel VS. Capcom 3, Okami, and the Kingdom Hearts games and all these games are rated E-T. I need to play KH1, KH2, and Okami again.

I do believe though that an M-rated game can help the developers add more mature themes to their games that helps to develop the story and the settings more. If the developers of Amnesia: The Dark Descent would have tried to have gotten a T-Rating for their game than a lot of the dark and mature themes in Amnesia would have been toned down.

I do have to admit though that I am bad at explaining things. If any part of my post is wrong let me know so I can learn on how to help explain my opinions better.
 

Jezzascmezza

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SvenBTB said:
Jezzascmezza said:
When a game/movie is "mature" rated, it means that the game/film makers may have been less creatively restricted by forcing the game/movie to be suitable for a wider demographic.
So in all honesty, a game can be more enjoyable if it's mature-rated.
That's not to say E rated games can't be fun though...
So you're saying Kirby needs blood and tits to be a "more enjoyable" game? A game doesn't "have" to be rated M to be unrestrained creatively. There are PLENTY of very creative games that are rated T or lower. Okami, SotC, Psychonauts, LBP, Ico... need I go on?
No. Blood and tits doesn't belong in the Kirby world.
What I was trying to say is that a game doesn't need to be mature rated to be better, it's just there are less restrictions (most of the time) of what can be placed in said game, and often (not always), that'll increase its enjoyability.
I was also in no way saying that games that are not mature-rated are automatically "un"-creative; I apologize if it appeared that way to you.
My favorite game of all time is Oblivion, and to my knowledge, that was rated T.
But perhaps the combat in Oblivion would've been more satisfying if dismemberment was possible, for example.
Or dialogue may have been more tense/ convincing if harsher words had been used.
 

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Chromanin said:
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't his logic dictate that games like DOA: Extreme Beach Volleyball, The Guy Game, and BMX XXX are automatically better than everything else just because they contain mature content?
I've always wondered. Why are games such as those considered "Mature?" When I look at those, I see games that could have been thought up by a 13 year old who doesn't get out of the house much, not by someone who is, to beat a word to death, mature.
 

manythings

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The only requirement to enjoying a game is that you enjoy it. The end. If he wants to wank himself off about how much of a grown-up he is, let him (And never let him forget about it later when he realises what a complete tard he was).